Scooby's Werewolf Village - Game Over

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:22 pm

Kraegor wrote: In both cases I have valid tactical moves I can make at night. Thus I don't give a rat's ass who hangs during the day.

for someone so smart...

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 6:23 pm

Votes:

1. Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle - Mr Bubbles
3. Chaosraven -
4. Unagi - Bakhtosh
5. redrun -
6. Kraegor - Bakhtosh
7. Bakhtosh - Mr Bubbles
8. Austin - Bakhtosh
9. Semaj - Bakhtosh
10. tru1cy - Mr Bubbles

Majority is 6.

Mr Bubbles - 4
Bakhtosh - 4

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:14 pm

Semaj wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:
Semaj wrote: I argued the Bubbles side of it for a while. it doesnt change our miss totals if he explodes, etc.
You must be smoking crack.
You do understand you, as a wolf are widely ignored for a reason right?

You could just be a good little wolf and spend your day sitting idly by in the holding cell we made for you...

I think wolf or not an extra person dying does affect the math. I may be no math wiz like Remus, but I do know subtract 1 will affect a formula. Call me silly... Call me suzanne.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Tue Dec 02, 2008 7:19 pm

ok lets try math, mr bubbles:
10 people
You die, someone else dies at night, you dont splode
8 people, 2 wolves
miss, night kill
6 people, 2 wolves
miss, night kill
4 people, 2 wolves, game over.

10 people, 3 wolves
You die, splode, night kill
7 people, 2 wolves.
miss, night kill
5 people, 2 wolves.
miss, night kill.
3 people, 2 wolves, game over.

You sploding = 2 misses, either way.

It just means if you do voting becomes more crucial in the later stages. But I dont have to put up with you trying to be obnoxious. So your death has its benefits.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:17 am

Bakhtosh

Good info coming from lynch:

Wolf result = Bad Wolf, not Weredog
Human result = NonSpecial

10 Players - 1 = 9 for evening
9 - 1 killed = 8 tomorrow FRI
Majority is 5 at 8 Players, so 3 Wolves cannot control immediately unless there are 2 Sorcerers/Witches (why do you guys keep leaving the poor witches out?)
8 - 1 = 7 for FRI evening
7 - 1 killed = 6 for next day SAT

If 3 Wolves live at that point, we lose.

8 -1(MrB) = 7 for FRI evening
7 -1 killed = 6 for SAT (with 2 possible wolves if Bakh is human)
Majority is 4 for 6 players, so 2 Wolves cannot control immediately unless there are 2 Sorcerers/Witches

8 -2 (MrB + BOOM) = 6 for FRI evening
6 -1 killed = 5 for SAT (with 2 possible wolves if Bakh is human)
Majority is 3 for 5 players. 2 Wolves plus ONE Evil Human can control vote.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:02 am

Mr. Bubbles not switching his vote to Bakhtosh

shows Unagi might be right. Anyway, the die is cast

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:12 am

Chaosraven wrote: (why do you guys keep leaving the poor witches out?)

Looks at CR's avatar, reads quote. Looks at avatar, reads quote...

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 10:55 am

Austin wrote:
Chaosraven wrote: (why do you guys keep leaving the poor witches out?)
Looks at CR's avatar, reads quote. Looks at avatar, reads quote...

Gee, wouldn't that be NEAT?

Claim Wolfsbane and in case an Apprentice scans ya, the result of NOT SORCERER makes 'em think yer Wolfsbane?
And ya survive ta th' bitter end so yer furry brothers can count on ya ta do th' right thing?

Too farfetched, sez I sez me

[rocky squirrel]that trick never works[/rocky]

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:13 am

And people think I'm a wolf

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:35 am

Votes:

1. Mr Bubbles - Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle - Mr Bubbles
3. Chaosraven - Bakhtosh
4. Unagi - Bakhtosh
5. redrun -
6. Kraegor - Bakhtosh
7. Bakhtosh - Mr Bubbles
8. Austin - Bakhtosh
9. Semaj - Bakhtosh
10. tru1cy - Bakhtosh

Majority is 6.

Mr Bubbles - 3
Bakhtosh - 6

Voting is closed.

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:37 am

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:41 am

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:43 am

The day started quickly. Fresh from the gruesome scene at the wood's edge there were voices raised immediately for Bubbles head. "Pop the bastage like an zit!" was heard from somewhere near the back of the crowd. "Kill him, kill him now." was heard from the front. "Wait, lets see who else we think is in on this, there was more than one set of footprints"

and so they talked. and talked. and talked. and talked. and talked. "Kill me" said Bubbles, "it is the right thing to do."
"No, we think Bakhtosh is a wolf with you" they said "we want to kill him first."

"O.k." said Bubbles, picking up the metal bar.

Thunk went Bahktosh's head. Splat went the piece of his skull that flew into the side of the frowning statue on top of the well causing it to wobble, but not fall.

"Missed again" said Bubbles, tossing the bar over his shoulder and walking away whistling.

Bahktosh was Human.

Players:
1. Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle
3. Chaosraven
4. Unagi
5. redrun
6. Kraegor
7. Austin
8. Semaj
9. tru1cy

It is night.
You know the drill.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:55 am

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:56 am

sunuvabitch.

1. Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle
3. Chaosraven
4. Unagi
5. redrun
6. Kraegor
7. Austin
8. Semaj
9. tru1cy

Ok, so they have to go after someone from this list:

2. Newcastle
4. Unagi
5. redrun
7. Austin
8. Semaj
9. tru1cy

Which will leave 5 of those alive to go with Mr B, Kraegor and I.

We will have to lynch Mr B tomorrow

8 - Mr B = 7
7 - 1 = 6 For Day (assuming Mr B doesn't go blooey and Kraegor doesn't go down with a buddy)
That still gives us the One Chance with 2 Wolves left.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:13 pm

What the... man I thought you had one this time. Damn sorry guys... Somehow I feel like I failed you

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:40 pm

Bah!

OK, well... it was just a thought.

Sorry Bakhtosh, I didn't think a villager would make that were-dog play when you made it, and then sit on the claim for 2 nights.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:01 pm

Chaosraven wrote: Which will leave 5 of those alive to go with Mr B, Kraegor and I.

.

Uhm, how can you guarantee the two of you will be alive?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:08 pm

are you aware of wolf powers we are not?

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 1:40 pm

I will only vote for Bubbles or Unagi tomorrow...if I survive

Austin · Post by **Austin** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:02 pm

tru1cy wrote:I will only vote for Bubbles or Unagi tomorrow...if I survive

Only Bubbles tomorrow.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:18 pm

tru1cy wrote:I will only vote for Bubbles or Unagi tomorrow...if I survive

Tomorrow is Mr Bubbles. No question.

Strange that you would suggest that I be lynched tomorrow, although not a surprise really. As you simply say: "I don't trust Unagi", does this imply there is a single player here that you do trust?

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:45 pm

-- Sorry to have disappeared for so long - personal life stuff. I'll try to read up today.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 2:53 pm

I appreciate those of you that say you will only vote for me tomorrow. One of you will indeed be our next target. kkthxbbl

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:40 pm

Newcastle wrote:
Chaosraven wrote: Which will leave 5 of those alive to go with Mr B, Kraegor and I.

.

Uhm, how can you guarantee the two of you will be alive?

Because Kraegor is the Whore.
Bubbles is alive so Kraegor can talk to him and cannot be the target.
I am perceived to be the Wolfsbane and won't be targeted by the Wolves.

Have you been reading the thread?

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:41 pm

tru1cy wrote:...if I survive

<music> duh duh duuhhh
frozen expressions of varied shock
<cut to commercial>

<runs to library to checkout a copy of "How to Make an Impression" by L'aisse Jaqov>

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 3:56 pm

Chaosraven wrote: Bubbles is alive so Kraegor can talk to him and cannot be the target.

I was speaking of timing. The point is odds.

Tonight: 2 / 6 are wolf. 33%
Tomorrow: 2 / 5 are wolf. 40%

7% difference in risk.

The question is whether wasting another night on protection is needed. Is a visit elsewhere more worthwhile than the safe boring play?
Recall, tomorrow Bubbles dies which means in the day we learn nothing.

There would be 1 unknown removed prior to nightfall.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:07 pm

Kraegor wrote:
Chaosraven wrote: Bubbles is alive so Kraegor can talk to him and cannot be the target.
I was speaking of timing. The point is odds.

Tonight: 2 / 6 are wolf. 33%
Tomorrow: 2 / 5 are wolf. 40%

7% difference in risk.

The question is whether wasting another night on protection is needed. Is a visit elsewhere more worthwhile than the safe boring play?
Recall, tomorrow Bubbles dies which means in the day we learn nothing.

There would be 1 unknown removed prior to nightfall.

Well let's see... if you talk to X and X is Not a Wolf, the Wolves have to go after X to take out both of you.
If you don't talk to a Wolf, you could be the Target instead.
But we will not know who X is in the event they take you out.

If you and X survive, what does it tell us?
Nothing. X could be a Wolf and then you could not have been targeted
or
X is not a Wolf and the Wolves targeted Y (perhaps in the hopes of getting you and Y)

It does prove *YOU* to X, but if X is a Wolf, then X knows you already as Whore.
If X is not a Wolf, that's one person who will do what?

purge · Post by **purge** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 4:50 pm

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:59 pm

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:01 pm

The whore does not talk. He takes action. Oh god does he.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:36 pm

purge wrote:

Bakhtosh wrote:

redrun · Post by **redrun** » Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:03 pm

-- Mr. Bubbles has to die today, but needed to live yesterday.
If we'd killed Bubbles yesterday:
1/6 + 1/5 chance of Whore dying during the night. (last night and tonight)
By killing Bubbles today:
1/5 chance of Whore dying during the night tonight.

This assumes three wolves, no evil humans, no special spot for Wolf to hide, and no zerker - or Chaos as a special & Bubbles as zerker killing Chaos.

Frankly, I'm a little fried right now, but figured I'd put out my current suspect list.

Newcastle - Been quiet lately, has generally felt good to me - but not a strong read.
Chaos - as Unagi put it - either he & Kraegor are a very smart and very risky set of wolves or they aren't wolves - and I don't think that they are wolves.
Kraegor - See Chaos above.
Unagi - Keeps pushing my bad guy meter. Keeps pushing my good guy meter. I'm leaning towards good... right now.
Austin - Keeps tapping my bad guy meter. Sometime shows up on the good guy meter. Strongest suspect currently.
Semaj - Doesn't push either meter too hard. Puts him on my suspect list.
Tru1cy - his game style is simple, but I like it. I don't think he's a wolf. I wonder about evil human, but only a little.
Redrun - simple, quiet, smart, but somewhat lame newbie who doesn't post enough.
Mr. Bubbles - He'd look good in a muzzle.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:19 pm

Dawn broke over Scooby's village to find Bubbles once again sitting on the edge of the village well. This bright sunny morning he was tossing a very large koosh ball back and forth between his hands while whistling a jaunty little tune, "Taps". As the villagers approached he looked up and said, "We visited Austin last night. He cooked very nicely. Oh, wait, we eat things raw."
The villagers slowly marched over to Austin's house where there was no sign of a struggle. The door was open but had not been broken down, it just sat there slightly ajar. Chaosraven was the first to poke his head into the cabin. "I don't see anything." he whispered. Semaj pushed the door fully open and the remaining villagers trooped into Austin's home. They saw nothing though for there was nothing to see. No furniture over turned. No shredded bedding. Nothing seemed wrong. Yet Austin was no where to be found.
Wearily they returned to the village square with its well and Mr Bubbles.
"Catch." said Bubbles, tossing the Koosh to Newcastle.
Newcastle caught the ball and looked down at it. It was only then the villagers realized it was not a Koosh ball but Austin's head.

Austin had been killed.

1. Mr Bubbles
2. Newcastle
3. Chaosraven
4. Unagi
5. redrun
6. Kraegor
7. Semaj
8. tru1cy

Majority is 5.
You know the manner in which to proceed.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:53 pm

Remus West wrote:Chaosraven was the first to poke his head into the cabin.

Of course, who else.

Remus West wrote:Austin had been killed.

Lucky son of a bitch.

Also, I may point out that this, from my seat, was perhaps a mistake - as I had Austin high on my list of possible wolves.... but - meh - that's from my seat. LOL - and well, then there is the fact that Purge and Bakhtosh were also high on my list.

My list sucks.

Anyhow - I do think that we need to act on our Mr.Bubbles today.

<-- that's offical Remus.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:56 pm

It's Friday - DAY - right? not night?

Remus, who's side are you on !?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 1:56 pm

Unagi wrote:It's Friday - DAY - right? not night?

Remus, who's side are you on !?

OK, fixed.

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:03 pm

bubbles

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:09 pm

Wait aren't we being a bit rash.. I mean I honestly thought Austin was safe. I'm just as shocked as the rest of you that Austin is dead. Lets talk this out. I don't want any violence and frankly I want to live. Why can't we be friends... Why can't we be friends.. why can't we be friends.....

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Thu Dec 04, 2008 2:28 pm

bubbles