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I’m pretty sure distributing counterfeit money is illegal:

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He's right - he's helping clean up the community.

When those start getting passed, the Secret Service will know exactly who is responsible, and the community will be just a little cleaner.
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Grifman wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 6:05 pm I’m pretty sure distributing counterfeit money is illegal:

I always wondered if Dennis Reynolds from It’s Always Sunny was based on a real person. I guess he is.
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Who the fuck is Johnny McEntee and why do we give a shit what that idiot is doing?

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Kurth wrote: Sun May 12, 2024 10:10 pm Who the fuck is Johnny McEntee and why do we give a shit what that idiot is doing?

One more example of why I hate social media.
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These are really ugly numbers for Biden:



I don’t know if he can shift them all that much in the time remaining. Michigan is also surprising given the total collapse of the state GOP there. That state should be Biden’s for the taking.

And this is disastrous (from the NYT article in the tweet):

“Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters — a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”
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They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.
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Very very very sadly, I don't doubt those numbers but how old is that picture of TFG? Why not just use a picture of him in his 30s? I think that's an old picture of Biden as well but the TFG difference is striking. NYT really should be more frank in how old both these candidates are.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:55 am They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.
+1 for me with the only modification being ‘increase’ instead of ‘put me on’.
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Grifman wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:26 am These are really ugly numbers for Biden:



I don’t know if he can shift them all that much in the time remaining. Michigan is also surprising given the total collapse of the state GOP there. That state should be Biden’s for the taking.

And this is disastrous (from the NYT article in the tweet):

“Mr. Trump and Mr. Biden are essentially tied among 18-to-29-year-olds and Hispanic voters, even though each group gave Mr. Biden more than 60 percent of their vote in 2020. Mr. Trump also wins more than 20 percent of Black voters — a tally that would be the highest level of Black support for any Republican presidential candidate since the enactment of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.”
Sorry, I put this in the wrong thread, meant it to put it in the 2024 election thread.
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Senator Britt proposes a federal database of pregnant women.
The More Opportunities for Moms to Succeed (Moms) act proposes to establish an online government database called “pregnancy.gov” listing resources related to pregnancy, including information about adoption agencies and pregnancy care providers, except for those that provide abortion-related services...

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They've been openly and loudly telling us what's coming if TFG gets re-elected, which seems to be working for them.

I really didn't think it was going to be possible. but it is starting to feel more and more likely we're about to slide into full-on insanity.
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Single-issue voters will be the death of us.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:04 pm They've been openly and loudly telling us what's coming if TFG gets re-elected, which seems to be working for them.

I really didn't think it was going to be possible. but it is starting to feel more and more likely we're about to slide into full-on insanity.
I think we'll survive him Electric Boogaloo as well as can be hoped for for the moment, but he lays even more groundwork for the end and his backers break the courts even more, such that full on insanity becomes immanent. We'll also have to endure his radicals being even more open than they are now while we wait for the cult to do what cults do and for the ostriches to figure out what they're going to do with no sand in sight. If/how we bounce back post 2nd term? I dunno. We survived the world leading us up to and through Nixon but then, we also were a different world back then. Breaking the norms and people of power may or may not change as he slips further and further in to dementia and revenge seeking while his cult and courts become more and more brazen. 2026 and then 2028 become serious questions.

I do have every reason to believe Putin gets worse with a better entrenchment of his propaganda at every level. Though he's old and slipping too.
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I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.
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I sometimes tread that same ground but I'm coward at heart.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.
I can't get on board. I feel like that just leads to: "I only thought they would eat their faces..."

We either fight to the end, or it's on us.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.
My main problem with this, is that they'll never realize their face is being eaten, and when they do start to think there's a problem, Fox news will blame the jews the Dems, who by that time will hold almost none of the seats in the Senate or the House, and they will *still* believe it.

My reference to jewish people above is a reference to the scapegoating that happened in Germany. As long as there's an internal enemy to hate, there will be very little headway in a reconciliation in the country.

And let's not forget that one side is often about expanding rights for individuals, while the other side is about suppressing individuals. The Rep have really established themselves as the party of hate.

Tell me what the party platform is right now, I dare you, and then tell me it's not about hurting "the others". No rationalizations allowed.
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I went to look up the platform... It's from 2016... with the exception of:
RESOLVED, That the Republican Party has and will continue to enthusiastically support the
President’s America-first agenda;
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention will adjourn without adopting a
new platform until the 2024 Republican National Convention;
RESOLVED, That the 2020 Republican National Convention calls on the media to engage in
accurate and unbiased reporting, especially as it relates to the strong support of the RNC for
President Trump and his Administration; and
RESOLVED, That any motion to amend the 2016 Platform or to adopt a new platform, including
any motion to suspend the procedures that will allow doing so, will be ruled out of order.
So there is no platform until July 18th, when it likely will be the same "be nice to TFG" as it has been for the last 8 years.
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Well, to be clear, I didn't mean the official platform. We're not quite at the stage yet where they can say "screw these people in particular" officially on their website. But we're close. They have no problem saying into a camera or in session.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:22 pm I'm almost to the point of taking the fatalistic approach and saying, "If that's what they want, let them have it." Let the world burn. You want the leopard to eat your face, have at it. I'll just be sitting quietly in the corner rocking back and forth muttering, " I told you so."

The stupid have inherited the earth, and I just have to face the fact that the rest of my life and my kids lives will be dictated by fools and idiots.
Don't despair so much. Climate change will make it all moot before too long.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:10 pm Single-issue voters will be the death of us.
"Not Trump" is a single issue...
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Blackhawk wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 8:22 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 1:10 pm Single-issue voters will be the death of us.
"Not Trump" is a single issue...
I respectfully disagree.
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YellowKing wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 7:55 am They're seriously going to have to put me on anxiety medication if that orange fascist wins. I just can't for 4 (or more) years.
I've been wondering for a while if, should he win, I will simply turn off the news, stop reading R&P, and try to live out my last two or three decades in whatever peace they allow me.

Then I realize that I'd be surrendering to them, and doing exactly what they're hoping for.

And then I realize that I don't have the stamina to keep caring once we've reached that point, and I will simply turn off the news, stop....

And then I realize that I'd be surrendering....

And then

And then

And then

And then
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I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?
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Kraken wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:07 pm I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?
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Alefroth wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:12 pm
Kraken wrote: Mon May 13, 2024 9:07 pm I daydream about joining a resistance cell. The resistance is going to need copy editors, right?
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I can cook passably well, too. There will be a place for me in the underground.
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