Part of the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore collapsed early Tuesday after being hit by a large container ship, sending cars into the Patapsco River, authorities said.
The Baltimore City Fire Department told CBS News that at about 1:30 a.m., 911 calls started coming in saying a vessel hit a bridge column. It was unclear how many vehicles were on the span but "there was surely a large tractor-trailer" on it.
"There are at least seven people" in the river, and "the dive and rescue team has arrived on scene to locate the individuals."
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Shorter video of collapse:
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The conspiracy theories are already beginning. I guess nothing major happens these days without an alternative explanation.
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Be interesting to hear what caused it, mechanical failure or pilot failure or...
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The ship appears to lose power multiple times before striking the bridge, so that undoubtedly played a major role.
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Wow, I thought when I read the news that it had just been too large and the top of the ship hit a section of the bridge. But it ran full on into one of the support pylons (or whatever they call them).
That's just horrific.
That's just horrific.
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I'm also hearing that this bridge was designed without any barriers built around the support pylons.
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A major bridge for the Baltimore area. Been over it dozens of times - used to travel it daily. Connects the beltway across the harbor. Ship apparently lost power and propulsion. Shuts down the harbor and shipping. Many trucks can't take the tunnels as an alternative (hazardous cargo/height) so that will play havoc with the highways.
Incredibly sad for the victims - construction workers were on the bridge at the time. Can only imagine how much worse a disaster this would have been if it happened during the day.
Tough to wrap my head around.
Incredibly sad for the victims - construction workers were on the bridge at the time. Can only imagine how much worse a disaster this would have been if it happened during the day.
Tough to wrap my head around.
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Last I heard 7 people are missing. Did they close the bridge down before it hit?
Why no tug boats in the picture if they were having problems? I would of thought they would always have tug boats on standby.
Why no tug boats in the picture if they were having problems? I would of thought they would always have tug boats on standby.
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I'm guessing it happened too quickly? Although I know the video doesn't seem to relay that urgency, I'm guessing this happened way too fast for any coordinated prevention.
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Gov. Wes Moore confirms that the ship's crew issued a mayday and communicated they were experiencing a power issue, enabling transportation officials to halt traffic over the bridge. "These people are heroes. They saved lives last night," Moore said.
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Who are heroes? The crew for issuing a mayday when they lost power?
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With all the implications on social media that this is a terrorist attack or an intentional collision or that the crew didn't know what they were doing, I think it's just a soundbite to suggest that no, they didn't intentionally slam into the bridge and in fact radioed the harbormaster that a collision was possible, allowing them to close the bridge. This event is unthinkable and there's already people presumed dead, but it could have been much, much worse. Is having the presence of mind during a crisis to radio someone that can stop more people from dying heroic? Apparently that's up for debate.
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Call it what you want but it was quick thinking and the right thing to do. Terrible tragedy and I hope some survived.
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1). They were able to close the bridge due to SOS from what I read.UsulofDoom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:22 am Last I heard 7 people are missing. Did they close the bridge down before it hit?
Why no tug boats in the picture if they were having problems? I would of thought they would always have tug boats on standby.
2). Why would they have tugs on standby for a one in a million accident? Are you going to pay crews for a couple of tugs for 24 a day? That’s a lot of money. And tugs do you no good if the accident is sudden as this one apparently was.
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Like I said:
I’m convinced that modern people are just as stupid and ignorant as we think the ancients were. Rather than relying superstition to explain things, we are subject to conspiracies, making up reasons for events that just have normal explanations..
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Barometer is the 13th largest port in the U.S, so this is not going to be good for the economy of Baltimore or the U.S. Could result in inflationary pressures.
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Those of us older people in Florida are reminded of the parallels with the collapse of the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in 1980.
Speaking as the son of a harbor pilot and someone who has actually worked on tugboats , having tugboats on standby would have been expensive and pointless. It takes time to get a tug engine warmed up and the tug underway and to the location. One instead might wonder why the ship didn't have the ability to drop an anchor or anchors to arrest it's forward progress.
Speaking as the son of a harbor pilot and someone who has actually worked on tugboats , having tugboats on standby would have been expensive and pointless. It takes time to get a tug engine warmed up and the tug underway and to the location. One instead might wonder why the ship didn't have the ability to drop an anchor or anchors to arrest it's forward progress.
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My understanding from what little I know about maritime port operations is that the ship would have been assigned a pilot from the local harbor to guide it. Pilots become the ship's captain when negotiating the harbor. I heard this one got two pilots. I would assume that if a tug was needed, they would have determined that when they assigned the pilots.Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:45 pm1). They were able to close the bridge due to SOS from what I read.UsulofDoom wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:22 am Last I heard 7 people are missing. Did they close the bridge down before it hit?
Why no tug boats in the picture if they were having problems? I would of thought they would always have tug boats on standby.
2). Why would they have tugs on standby for a one in a million accident? Are you going to pay crews for a couple of tugs for 24 a day? That’s a lot of money. And tugs do you no good if the accident is sudden as this one apparently was.
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Nah. I'm convinced the average person is much dumber and more ignorant than we think the ancients were.
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Ancient people got their news from limited sources. Now I have to sift through so many it's ridiculous. I mean, how am I supposed to figure out what's right and what's wrong when I'm listening to a podcast by a guy who calls his show The Adrenochrome Avenger and is telling me that JFK Junior is alive and well and living in an RV on the fourth moon of Jupiter? We're only human, damn it!
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and then there's this:
The fact that this bridge is the only designated HAZMAT route in and out of the city is going to be a much bigger deal than people would think.
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Customers from the East Coast to the Midwest could see costly impact from Baltimore bridge collapse
In a statement released after the bridge collapsed early Tuesday, the American Trucking Association estimated some 4,900 trucks per day carrying an annual average of $28 billion worth of goods would have to be re-rerouted — at a cost to shippers and ultimately consumers.
“The Key Bridge and Port of Baltimore are critical components of our nation’s infrastructure and supply chain," the association said. "Aside from the obvious tragedy, this incident will have significant and long-lasting impacts on the region."
It noted the greatest impact is likely to be on shipments of hazardous materials, like diesel fuel, which are not allowed to be brought through tunnels.
The closure, the association said, will "add significant cost in time, fuel and delays for trucks traveling through the region, on top of the disruption that a closure of the Port of Baltimore will inflict on our economy."
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Baltimore is the largest entry point in the U.S. for large agriculture and construction equipment like tractors, farming combines, fork lifts, bulldozers and heavy-duty trucks that are bound for the Midwest, according to DAT Freight and Analytics, a freight-exchange service.
Any disruption to agriculture and construction equipment shipments would come at a particularly bad time as Midwest farmers have begun to plant this year’s crops, while construction picks up in colder climates as the ground begins to thaw, said Dean Croke, principal analyst with DAT.
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It wasn't a barge, it was a container ship, MV Dali.
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Class and type Neopanamax container ship
Tonnage
95,128 GT
52,150 NT
116,851 DWT
Length 299.92 m (984 ft 0 in)
Beam 48.2 m (158 ft 2 in)
Draught 15.03 m (49 ft 4 in)
Depth 24.8 m (81 ft 4 in)
Installed power MAN-B&W 9S90ME-C9.2; 41,480 kW (55,630 hp)
Propulsion Single shaft; fixed pitch propeller
Speed 22 knots (41 km/h; 25 mph)
Capacity 9,971 TEU
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I don't think there's a barrier that would be effective against a cargo ship this size.
In addition to the (giagntic) port and HAZMAT implications already mentioned--this bridge handled 11.5M vehicles/year. That's 31,500 vehicles/day that will have to use alternate roadways for the next <insert number of years here>.
This is going to suck, in myriad ways, for a ton of people for years.
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Oops, I forget sometimes.LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 3:13 pmI was keeping that to myself, being R&P and all but boy was I thinking it.
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Actually when the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in St Petersburg FL was replaced after the old bridge was hit by a ship, the new design includes massive concrete "dolphins" and barriers to protect the bridge against an out of control ship. It is possible to protect a bridge, but it costs money.
UPDATE: Image of the new bridge in the background with all the protective measures:
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From my very reliable sources (i.e., randos on Twitter and Bluesky) the measures on the Florida bridge wouldn't have done anything for a cargo ship of this size and weight.
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If you're referring to this dipshit, that's an awfully generous take. He's obviously trying to use this to score political points against the liberals for their overly aggressive COVID response. At least with a conspiracy, someone actually believes in the conspiracy as the cause of the event. Off-mic, this guy probably laughs at what he said during the interview.
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Well, there's no such thing as perfect protection, but certainly the measures on the new bridge would provide a high degree of protection. As to the "sources", well, I'd have to see the scenario parameters. Speed is important, obviously, but impact angle too.
I'm sure we'll see the media and the politicians turn this into a crusade. Of course, I'd like to see if someone like the local Baltimore Sun identified this as a potential hazard in their investigative reporting before the accident occurred.
I'd love to have stock in tugboat companies right now, as I see the government immediately start a crash program to require tug escorts for all ships arriving and departing ports that have vulnerable bridges or other structures.
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The new Sunshine Skyway will fall down someday just from it's bad design decisions. No ship strike required this time. Corroded tensioning cables that they "solved" by just pumping the uprights full of concrete. I wonder if they even added any steel?jztemple2 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:17 pmActually when the Sunshine Skyway Bridge in St Petersburg FL was replaced after the old bridge was hit by a ship, the new design includes massive concrete "dolphins" and barriers to protect the bridge against an out of control ship. It is possible to protect a bridge, but it costs money.
UPDATE: Image of the new bridge in the background with all the protective measures:
I think they just wanted to rename the bridge in Baltimore without causing a fuss. I wonder if those poor fellows were the entire pothole filling crew for the whole eastern seaboard?
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