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Victoria Raverna wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:28 pm
Jaymann wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:47 pm Yes, the video is flawed. But the concerns about W11 encrypting your PC are real.
You know that you can unencrypt it, right? It is not just W11. My HP W10 laptop that I bought three years ago also came encrypted but I can easily unencrypt it.
That's just it. Why should you be forced to unencrypt a computer you own.
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Jaymann wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:31 pm
Victoria Raverna wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:28 pm
Jaymann wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:47 pm Yes, the video is flawed. But the concerns about W11 encrypting your PC are real.
You know that you can unencrypt it, right? It is not just W11. My HP W10 laptop that I bought three years ago also came encrypted but I can easily unencrypt it.
That's just it. Why should you be forced to unencrypt a computer you own.
It is to provide default security for users. In case of theft, encrypted disk can prevent other from accessing your data. For those that don't need that, they can just disable it easily.
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Victoria Raverna wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 10:56 pm
Jaymann wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:31 pm
Victoria Raverna wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 6:28 pm
Jaymann wrote: Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:47 pm Yes, the video is flawed. But the concerns about W11 encrypting your PC are real.
You know that you can unencrypt it, right? It is not just W11. My HP W10 laptop that I bought three years ago also came encrypted but I can easily unencrypt it.
That's just it. Why should you be forced to unencrypt a computer you own.
It is to provide default security for users. In case of theft, encrypted disk can prevent other from accessing your data. For those that don't need that, they can just disable it easily.
Right. Bitlocker is there so if someone gets physical access to your hard drive, they don't have access to your data. It's a brick. I encrypt every disk I use if it might have sensitive data on it. It's super simple to turn on or off. These people are the same ones that would castigate Microsoft if they lost their laptop and someone gained access to their financial data. It's always no win.
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So, what if you have important data on a drive, and the system dies? Maybe a power surge fries the motherboard and the drive that the OS was installed on. Will you be able to pull a Windows encrypted drive to access it from another PC?
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:53 am So, what if you have important data on a drive, and the system dies? Maybe a power surge fries the motherboard and the drive that the OS was installed on. Will you be able to pull a Windows encrypted drive to access it from another PC?
Yes, you'd use the recovery key to do so. But of course you'd have backups elsewhere, right? #amidalayou'dhavethemright

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I try to have backups, but complete extra drives are expensive.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:38 am I try to have backups, but complete extra drives are expensive.
You don't need to backup everything but you need to have backup of your important and irreplaceable data.

Computer drives don't last forever. While it is possible to get professional service to recover data from broken drives, it is much more expensive than just to invest in having a backup drive for your data.
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I don't have much data that is critical. If I do I email mail it to myself.
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Welp, I made the mistake of trying to use an upgrade to Windows 11 as a fix for a problem I couldn't solve (which it didn't solve BTW). Now my computer (particularly internet) is noticeably slower, and my printer is not supported (I thought the stupid "Windows 11 Check" app I downloaded and ran was supposed to check that?!?).

It looks like there SHOULD be an option to roll back to Windows 10, but it's greyed out dammit. Any other recourse than to do a whole new clean install? (and no, I don't need or want a new printer, my ancient Dell is working fantastically thankyouverymuch :P)
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:56 pm Welp, I made the mistake of trying to use an upgrade to Windows 11 as a fix for a problem I couldn't solve (which it didn't solve BTW). Now my computer (particularly internet) is noticeably slower, and my printer is not supported (I thought the stupid "Windows 11 Check" app I downloaded and ran was supposed to check that?!?).

It looks like there SHOULD be an option to roll back to Windows 10, but it's greyed out dammit. Any other recourse than to do a whole new clean install? (and no, I don't need or want a new printer, my ancient Dell is working fantastically thankyouverymuch :P)
There is an option to roll back to Windows 10 without losing any data, but it only remains available for a period of ten days after upgrading to Windows 11:

Downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10
answers.microsoft.com wrote:Requirements for downgrade: Downgrade from Windows 11 to Windows 10 is subject to fulfil some requirements. Here they are:
  • You can only downgrade to Windows 10 within the 10 days of your upgrade. For example, if you upgraded to Windows 11 on 1 Sept, 2021, then you can downgrade within 10 days. If you want to downgrade on 25 Sept, 2021, you can’t.
  • Previous Windows version files, typically Windows.old folder and other required files should be present on your system.
Alas, this means you just hafta bite the bullet, and perform a whole new clean install of Windows 10. :grund:
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:doh:

It’s been around 20 days since I upgraded. Nice.
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The Verge
Windows 10 22H2 will be the final version of the operating system, Microsoft said in a blog post on Thursday. Moving forward, all editions of Windows 10 will be supported with monthly security updates until October 14th, 2025, when Microsoft will end support. (Some releases on the Long-Term Servicing Channel, or LTSC, will get updates past that end of support date.)

Microsoft is encouraging users to now transition to Windows 11 because Windows 10 won’t be getting any new features.
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Yeah, never going to happen. By Oct. '25 both of my machines will be seven years old and due for replacement anyway.
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