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Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:55 am
by Holman
Kraken wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:54 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Apr 01, 2021 11:04 pm Thoughts and prayers.

Anyone betting he’ll still be in Congress three weeks from now?
Wasn't he already talking about bailing? I don't follow scandals closely because they all blur together, so I might be conflating him with some other scalawag, but I thought he'd already been frozen out of committee assignments and generally shunned. Congressman might be the worst job he's ever had.

IDK where he's from, but if his district elected him, I'm sure they're replace him with another deplorable.
IIRC, he was talking about not running for re-election and joining a FOX or OANN (until both said "Matt who?"). I don't think he was talking about resigning.

I also think he still has his committee assignments (because Kevin McCarthy is probably awaiting approval from Trump), although they might slide out from under him today.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am
by Carpet_pissr
He's toast because he paid for hookers? In 2021? I don't think so. The under-age thing is gross and socially unacceptable for sure, but are the payees also under-age?

In modern political America, that seems quite tame (the former, not the latter obviously). I could totally see this NOT meaning he's toast. Far from it. If he doubles down on it, owns it and claims it's the hypocrite liberals clutching their pearls again, he could be fine. Certainly any district that voted this complete douchebag into office is not our "best and brightest". All he might have to say is "if you don't re-elect me, the liberals win!!" or some such bs. "Liberal hit job - they want me gone because I caused them so much pain" Many people eat that line of thinking for breakfast every day.

The fact that The Crazy network is silent on him is by far the biggest threat (to him and his future career). Unless this gets darker, or more crime-y than it seems now, he gets a slap on the wrist at best from the traditional institutions.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:25 am
by hepcat
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am If he doubles down on it, owns it and claims it's the hypocrite liberals clutching their pearls again,
There is zero chance of any scenario in which he "owns it". He will lie, lie and then lie again. The bulk of the GOP will (pretend to, at least) believe him. It's the acceptance of bald faced lies that I think is the Trump legacy.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:36 am
by Carpet_pissr
hepcat wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:25 am
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am If he doubles down on it, owns it and claims it's the hypocrite liberals clutching their pearls again,
There is zero chance of any scenario in which he "owns it". He will lie, lie and then lie again. The bulk of the GOP will (pretend to, at least) believe him. It's the acceptance of bald faced lies that I think is the Trump legacy.
Good point. Like Fox, they might just pretend it doesn't exist, or "they have not heard anything" like they did with the worst Trump comments.
Journalist: "Mr. Jordan, can you comment on the Matt Gaetz situation?"
Jordan: "I have no idea what you're talking about. Haven't heard it."

Very easy. Now that truth is so malleable, this is likely not considered "lying" anymore.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:07 am
by Holman
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am He's toast because he paid for hookers? In 2021? I don't think so. The under-age thing is gross and socially unacceptable for sure, but are the payees also under-age?
The minimum rumor is that he's being investigated for sex trafficking: paying for an underage victim to travel with him for purposes of sex. There are also rumors that the investigation involves more than one victim. It was serious enough that Bill Barr (!) launched the investigation.

Plus it's becoming clearer and clearer that none of Gaetz's Republican colleagues (with the apparent exception of Gym Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Qreen) really like him.

It speaks volumes that Hannity/Tucker/Ingraham and the Trumps have not come forward to defend him. Gaetz is expendable.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:08 am
by El Guapo

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:27 am
by Pyperkub
Holman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 11:07 am
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am He's toast because he paid for hookers? In 2021? I don't think so. The under-age thing is gross and socially unacceptable for sure, but are the payees also under-age?
The minimum rumor is that he's being investigated for sex trafficking: paying for an underage victim to travel with him for purposes of sex. There are also rumors that the investigation involves more than one victim. It was serious enough that Bill Barr (!) launched the investigation.

Plus it's becoming clearer and clearer that none of Gaetz's Republican colleagues (with the apparent exception of Gym Jordan and Marjorie Taylor Qreen) really like him.

It speaks volumes that Hannity/Tucker/Ingraham and the Trumps have not come forward to defend him. Gaetz is expendable.
Yeah, this thread goes through the background:
Thread: The story of how @mattgaetz became a target of the Trump justice department is even crazier and weirder than you can imagine.

It involves blockchain, blatant fraud by a local tax collector, and a scheme to steal people’s government ID.
Thread replies have articles, etc.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 12:16 pm
by malchior
Rupar is really enjoying pointing out the hypocrisy at Fox.


Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm
by Skinypupy
Well, color me shocked.


ABC News: Gaetz was part of a group of young male lawmakers in the Florida House who created a "game" to score female sexual conquests, which granted "points" for various targets such as interns, staffers or other female colleagues in the state House.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:23 pm
by malchior
His staff is starting to head for the exits.


Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:46 pm
by YellowKing
Skiny's picture makes him look like he's doing a bad Richard Nixon cosplay.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:48 pm
by Isgrimnur
Dude has a fivehead.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:48 pm
by malchior
Nice of them to pick this story back up at night on a Friday.


Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:50 pm
by Holman
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:48 pm Dude has a fivehead.
It's not even that. It's his ridiculous High Hair.

I really think extravagantly bad hair is a signal right-wingers have chosen to signal their allegiance to Trump. Piled high (Gaetz), slicked-back (like DonJr and Eric), or side-glued (like recent Ted Cruz) aren't just fashion (in fact current fashion rejects all this) but marks of fealty.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 7:18 pm
by Holman

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Fri Apr 02, 2021 9:35 pm
by Kraken
Holman wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 6:50 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:48 pm Dude has a fivehead.
It's not even that. It's his ridiculous High Hair.

I really think extravagantly bad hair is a signal right-wingers have chosen to signal their allegiance to Trump. Piled high (Gaetz), slicked-back (like DonJr and Eric), or side-glued (like recent Ted Cruz) aren't just fashion (in fact current fashion rejects all this) but marks of fealty.
Or painted on (like Rudy).

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:15 am
by Carpet_pissr
I think Don Jr in particular, is stuck in the late 80's/early 90's with his 'do. His whole face/demeanor (and hairstyle) screams "I've always wanted to be a slick Wall Street trader jock, but this haircut is as close as I will get."

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sat Apr 03, 2021 11:18 am
by Carpet_pissr
Skinypupy wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:06 pm Well, color me shocked.


ABC News: Gaetz was part of a group of young male lawmakers in the Florida House who created a "game" to score female sexual conquests, which granted "points" for various targets such as interns, staffers or other female colleagues in the state House.
OK, NOW he might be toast. He's not DJT after all.

If you substituted Florida Man for Gaetz in this scenario, there would be a crap ton of right wing coverage, all of it mocking and downplaying how silly it was, locker room games, how petty the triggered liberals are being over nothing, etc. He would be so far from toast, he would be ... raw dough. Hell, let's go back further up the chain - he would be wheat!
Golden.
Shiny.
Wheat.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 11:31 am
by Lassr
Isgrimnur wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 5:48 pm Dude has a fivehead.
He looks like he should be doing a mock draft of the top 30 high school/college students he'd like to nail. Trevor Lawrence is still trending as the #1 pick.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:17 pm
by Daehawk
if thats him in the pic above he looks like what Nixon would look like as a televangelist.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:25 pm
by Freyland
Worth searching yesterday's SNL weekend update clip. Quite funny, and spot on as usual.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 12:42 pm
by Isgrimnur

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Sun Apr 04, 2021 5:29 pm
by Skinypupy
What I expect the next stage of this soap opera to look like.

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Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:03 am
by Skinypupy
Prepare the mental bleach!


This is a real excerpt from Matt Gaetz's book: "The president has called me when I was in my car, asleep in the middle of the night on my Longworth Office cot, on the throne, on airplanes, in nightclubs, and even in the throes of passion (yes, I answered)"

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 9:22 am
by hepcat
When you have to have your dates home by their curfew on school nights, that's saying a lot!

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:20 pm
by Skinypupy
More trouble incoming for Gaetz.
Federal investigators are looking into a Bahamas trip Matt Gaetz allegedly took in late 2018 or early 2019 as part of an inquiry into whether the Florida representative violated sex trafficking laws, multiple sources told CBS News.

Gaetz was on that trip with a marijuana entrepreneur and hand surgeon named Jason Pirozzolo, who allegedly paid for the travel expenses, accommodations, and female escorts, the sources said.

Investigators are trying to determine if the escorts were illegally trafficked across state or international lines for the purpose of sex with the congressman.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:22 pm
by Jaymann
At least he was covered if the hand jobs became excessive.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:23 am
by LordMortis
Skinypupy wrote: Wed Apr 07, 2021 8:20 pm
Investigators are trying to determine if the escorts were illegally trafficked across state or international lines for the purpose of sex with the congressman.
And this is what they Evangelicals get behind and give their money to in order to keep a stranglehold on their moral high ground and preserve their place in the kingdom of god.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 2:10 pm
by Jaymann
The noose may be tightening...

Kyle Griffin
@kylegriffin1

BREAKING Politico: The legal peril Matt Gaetz is facing appeared to increase sharply after a court hearing indicated that former Seminole County, FL tax collector Joel Greenberg is likely cooperating with federal prosecutors.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:43 pm
by malchior

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:45 pm
by Jaymann
Stockholm Syndrome.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:50 pm
by Isgrimnur
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Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:28 pm
by milo
I notice there are no actual names of those women included in the signature block. Just "The women".

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:23 pm
by Holman
milo wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:28 pm I notice there are no actual names of those women included in the signature block. Just "The women".
I assume reporters are swarming that office in search of confirmation.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:46 pm
by Smoove_B
Remember when Jerry Springer wrote a check to a prostitute?


EXCLUSIVE: In May 2018 Matt Gaetz Venmo'd $900 to his good buddy & alleged child sex trafficker Joel Greenberg. Greenberg then paid three women $900. One had turned 18 five months prior. She now does adult films.
Read the article here.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 8:48 pm
by Holman
Venmo.

ROFLMAO.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:31 pm
by Grifman
What an idiot.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:32 pm
by Grifman
Jaymann wrote: Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:45 pm Stockholm Syndrome.
They just want to keep their jobs, he's gone, they go with him.

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 9:41 pm
by Unagi
I’m trying not to get too excited that he will get caught up in this. (As much as I hope he does)

Sounds like there are still some lines to connect (in regard to a guilty verdict.)

Also, if the girl (the youngest involved) was over 18, how is it still being called ‘child’ ?

Re: The Matt Gaetz Soap Opera

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:41 pm
by Grifman
Carpet_pissr wrote: Fri Apr 02, 2021 10:07 am He's toast because he paid for hookers? In 2021? I don't think so. The under-age thing is gross and socially unacceptable for sure, but are the payees also under-age?
He's toast because likely committed a crime of some sorts, which is why he is under investigation. His buddy just reached a plea deal with the Feds, and they wouldn't have given him that unless he gave them the goods.