Re: Too soon to start thinking about 2024?
Posted: Fri May 19, 2023 2:46 pm
ALSO what she said. Literally. (Full disclosure, we planned to have two only, and ended up with three)
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
https://octopusoverlords.com/forum/
ALSO what she said. Literally. (Full disclosure, we planned to have two only, and ended up with three)
Just what we needed!CNN announced that Jake Tapper will moderate a Republican presidential town hall event with former South Carolina governor-turned-2024 candidate Nikki Haley. The event is scheduled to take place in Iowa on June 4 at 8:00 p.m. ET.
CNN’s press release on the event states that Haley “will take questions from Tapper and a live audience which is comprised of Iowa Republicans and Iowa voters, who say they will pre-register to participate in the Republican caucuses by the deadline set by the Republican Party of Iowa.”
It seems like a perfectly reasonable approach for mainstream candidates that did not try to overthrow the government.
Perfectly reasonable:
I'm sure after she irons out her hate speech routine, it'll go over much better on CNN.When Republican presidential candidate Nikki Haley stepped onstage Wednesday morning at a campaign event at Saint Anselm College, she had a question for the crowd.
"Everybody know about Dylan Mulvaney?” Haley asked. “Bud Light? That is a guy, dressed as a girl, making fun of women.”
To the GOP’s hardcore base, Dylan Mulvaney needs no introduction. The transgender content creator who partnered with Budweiser has been the target of vicious attacks and sustained indignation for weeks, largely thanks to a seemingly endless stream of segments on Fox News.
But in the crowd at Saint Anselm College’s “Politics & Eggs” event, packed with New Hampshire’s famously independent voters, this anti-transgender broadside was not met with applause but silence.
Voters in the room appeared largely unaware of the Bud Light controversy. When Haley waited for applause, they didn’t clap.
They're not going to pick and choose based on issues. They're just not. So where do you draw the line? I'm not 100% sure, but permitting town halls for legitimate candidates who haven't actively encouraged insurrection seems reasonable. Permitting town halls for legitimate candidates who are not objectively known for lying as easily as they breath air seems reasonable.
I'll definitely give you this one.
Unfortunately it's such a low bar these days. You are basically just drawing a line between "lying" (like Trump does) and "talking points" that always devolve into dog-whistles for the base (like the whole Dylan Mulvaney debacle).
I've been assured there will be NO dancing and it will be absolutely riveting.CNN will host a town hall with former Vice President Mike Pence early next month in Iowa, the network announced Thursday.
The town hall will be moderated by CNN’s Dana Bash on Wednesday, June 7, at 9 p.m. ET from Grand View University in Des Moines.
Pence, who served as vice president from 2017 to 2021, has been positioning himself as a presidential candidate for months, though he has yet to officially enter the 2024 race. Pence has said he expects to make a decision on a campaign “before the month of June is out.”
During the town hall, Pence will field questions from Bash and a live audience that will include Iowa Republicans and Iowa voters, who say they plan to pre-register to take part in the Republican caucuses by the deadline set by the Republican Party of Iowa and pledge to appear in person at the caucuses.
Can you imagine what the ratings for this will be? I'm not, but I'm almost looking forward to seeing Trump's comments.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2023 1:34 pm Sure, why not:
I've been assured there will be NO dancing and it will be absolutely riveting.CNN will host a town hall with former Vice President Mike Pence early next month in Iowa, the network announced Thursday.
The town hall will be moderated by CNN’s Dana Bash on Wednesday, June 7, at 9 p.m. ET from Grand View University in Des Moines.
Pence, who served as vice president from 2017 to 2021, has been positioning himself as a presidential candidate for months, though he has yet to officially enter the 2024 race. Pence has said he expects to make a decision on a campaign “before the month of June is out.”
During the town hall, Pence will field questions from Bash and a live audience that will include Iowa Republicans and Iowa voters, who say they plan to pre-register to take part in the Republican caucuses by the deadline set by the Republican Party of Iowa and pledge to appear in person at the caucuses.
YepYellowKing wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:06 pm I have no doubt we'll still see Pence subtly kissing the ass of the guy who incited a mob to kill him.
Trump today announces that on day one he will sign an Executive Order denying US citizenship to children born in the US if their parents are migrant asylum seekers.
Maybe, but he is delusional enough to announce a run...YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri May 26, 2023 2:06 pm I have no doubt we'll still see Pence subtly kissing the ass of the guy who incited a mob to kill him.
Former Vice President Mike Pence to Launch Campaign for White House Within 2 Weeks (Exclusive)
Pence, who is polling in single digits, believes he has a lane with evangelicals in the GOP primaries
He's a legal threat. Not an electoral one.
Nikki Haley had her CNN town hall last night and Chris Christie is getting ready to announce, so I guess it's officially GOP Clown Car Season (tm).Former Vice President Mike Pence filed paperwork Monday to run for president in 2024, Federal Election Commission documents showed.
Pence, who served under former President Donald Trump, is expected to personally launch his bid for the GOP nomination on Wednesday. A spokesman for Pence confirmed the FEC filings.
The former vice president is expected to bring a more traditionally conservative voice to a primary field that has been drowned out by the populist preachings of Trump, the current front-runner, and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis.
Yeah they're repeating the same mistakes they made in 2016 - dividing the anti-Trump voters so Trump cruises to easy victory in the primaries.
Pence is hilarious. The only single good thing about him is the one single thing that totally sank him with his 'people'.Exodor wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:51 pmYeah they're repeating the same mistakes they made in 2016 - dividing the anti-Trump voters so Trump cruises to easy victory in the primaries.
I'm a little confused about why Pence would even enter the race. Trumpers hate him because he refused to impose Trump as an unelected dictator in 2020. Non-Republicans hate him because he's an OG Christofascist. Even if he somehow won the primary I don't see how he would have a chance in the general. But I guess grifting is easy money for a Republican with name recognition.
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie formally announced his second bid for president Tuesday, using his familiar town hall format to begin thumping former President Donald Trump and make an early case for his long-shot candidacy for the Republican nomination in the 2024 race.
The kick-off came after a 27-minute speech where Christie accused recent presidents of both parties of “dividing us” with the intention of locking people into their ideological tribes. He referred to leaders that do that as “pretenders” who want to “divide you further and to make it easier” for the country to be “dominated by a single leader.”
This is why I'm glad that he's running. He's a bad person, and he almost certainly doesn't have a chance, and this probably in the end won't amount to much of anything. BUT right now he's the only prominent Republican willing to speak the unvarnished truth about Trump (and about the other Republican candidates who are trying to run against Trump without criticizing him), and he's got enough stature with the media that he'll generate press coverage while doing so. Hard to see how the Republican Party gets better if no one is willing to speak the truth to Republican voters.
A surprise Supreme Court ruling on Thursday has handed Democrats a potential boost in the 2024 congressional race by calling into question the constitutionality of Republican-drawn electoral districts throughout the U.S. South.
I guess thanks for teaching me history?Trump says in a second term he will seek to repeal the Impoundment Control Act of 1974 so that he will have unilateral power as president to seize funds appropriated by Congress for govt agencies and programs and use that money to give out tax cuts.
The Congressional Budget and Impoundment Control Act of 1974 (ICA) reasserted Congress’ power of the purse. Specifically, Title X of the Act – “Impoundment Control” – established procedures to prevent the President and other government officials from unilaterally substituting their own funding decisions for those of the Congress. The Act also created the House and Senate Budget Committees and the Congressional Budget Office.
Congress passed the ICA in response to President Nixon’s executive overreach – his Administration refused to release Congressionally appropriated funds for certain programs he opposed. While the U.S. Constitution broadly grants Congress the power of the purse, the President – through the White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB) and executive agencies – is responsible for the actual spending of funds. The ICA created a process the President must follow if he or she seeks to delay or cancel funding that Congress has provided.