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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:31 am
by Carpet_pissr
This is yet another sliver, anecdote, whatnot of our Problem, and I wish I saw hope for how to solve. It’s crushing, feels insurmountable. Yes, it’s ONE person n in this case, but she’s not even close to being alone in this. Note this was a jury trial, and note the last sentence in particular.

Consider the implications if she’s not just making a public comment, but actually filing a complaint about a judge saying that Jan 6 was a “troubling moment for the country.”
It’s akin to stating ‘war is awful’.

“Rep. Elise Stefanik (R-N.Y.) filed an ethics complaint against Howell (judge in Guiliani’s case) this week, the latest of a group of complaints filed against notable judges prosecuting Trump and his allies.

Stefanik claimed Howell committed misconduct by giving a speech which included her political opinions by calling the Jan. 6 Capitol riots a “troubling moment” for the country.”

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:40 am
by hepcat
You either blow Trump live in front of America or you lose your job. That's how the GOP works now.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:14 pm
by Alefroth
Giuliani declares bankruptcy the day after the judge removed the 30 day waiting period for the plaintiffs to go after his assets.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ankruptcy/

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:03 pm
by Zarathud
But somehow the financial ruin attached to everyone in Trumps orbit isn’t enough to convince the GOP to stop supporting him.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 4:09 pm
by Smoove_B
Make debtors prisons great again!

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2024 11:58 pm
by Alefroth
Dems look certain to pick up a House seat in LA.

https://lailluminator.com/2024/01/19/gr ... rity-seat/
Louisiana lawmakers gave final approval Friday to a congressional redistricting plan that adds a second majority-Black district to the state’s U.S. House lineup, likely at the expense of U.S. Rep. Garret Graves, a Republican from Baton Rouge.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:57 am
by Grifman
You just can't make this stuff up. Remember that documentary put out by True The Vote, called "Two Thousand Mules" which via supposed tracking of cell phones alleged a massive conspiracy involving fake ballots being dropped off at voting drop boxes. Well, they filed an official election complaint in GA and GA took them seriously. GA asked them for evidence and then TTV tried to take back their complaint. But GA sued them for their evidence. Well, la de da, their lawyers filed a response, saying that TTV had no such evidence, and no contact information for any of their alleged whistleblowers.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/true-the ... fbe7b1e5fc

It was all made up, as many others examining the supposed "evidence" believed. But of course, probably tens or hundreds of thousands watched their "documentary" and will never hear of this. As if we didn't know if already, it exposes once again, that claims of election fraud as just so much s***.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 3:09 am
by Alefroth
It'd be nice if someone felt some pain over this.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:42 am
by LordMortis
Yeah, like the lawyers should lose their licenses or if they took their complaint in good faith from clients then those clients should feel some sort of legal weight on their necks.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:02 am
by Grifman
LordMortis wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 5:42 am Yeah, like the lawyers should lose their licenses or if they took their complaint in good faith from clients then those clients should feel some sort of legal weight on their necks.
The lawyers were just representing them, they had nothing to do with the movie or the complaint that was filed. But yeah, it’s frustrating that there are no legal sanctions for this kind of stuff.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am
by Jaymann
So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:01 pm
by Scraper
Jaymann wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
He only shows up to troll, so be careful what you wish for.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2024 2:51 pm
by Grifman
Jaymann wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
He took the last mule out of town.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:52 pm
by Unagi
Scraper wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 1:01 pm
Jaymann wrote: Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:17 am So where is the joker on here who had 2000 Mules as his sig?
He only shows up to troll, so be careful what you wish for.
I wish he changed his sig to "Just a couple asses"

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2024 5:58 pm
by waitingtoconnect
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... n-election

Figure has Ben developed to do mass voter challenges in Georgia. Missing a comma before Jr in your name or having the name of a dead person is enough.
Richards explicitly stated in the March 2023 Zoom call that EagleAI fosters a circular dynamic: it overwhelms election boards with voter registration challenges, then leverages the chaos to try to land a paid contract.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 7:16 pm
by Alefroth
This is a pretty epic double takedown-


Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:39 pm
by Isgrimnur
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Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:59 pm
by Alefroth
Thanks. She responded and he dismantled that too.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:03 pm
by hepcat
Oof, she gets repeatedly schooled in the comments for her X post above. She says one thing, people point out her idiocy or hypocrisy, then she’s off to the next one.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 1:07 am
by Isgrimnur
The Gish gallop is still a thing.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:54 pm
by Grifman
Kari Lake is just the gift that keeps on giving:



She’s not even trying to defend herself. Hope she has a deep pocketbook!

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:38 am
by Grifman


This is kind of stupid. This money can’t be used for campaigning, and I doubt any legal challenges will be any more effective than they were last time, all just to soothe Trump’s ego.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 10:07 am
by Punisher
I'm gonna safely assume that if trump wins they will miraculously decide that they actually dont need lawsuits.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:53 pm
by Pyperkub
Eastman to be disbarred in CA it appears:
A California judge on Wednesday recommended disbarring a lawyer at the center of former President Trump’s efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

State Bar Judge Yvette Roland found John Eastman culpable on 10 of the 11 counts filed by the California State Bar last year. The state bar sought to strip Eastman’s license to practice law in the state over “false and misleading statements” about purported election fraud and his role in “provoking” the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol riot.

“In view of the circumstances surrounding Eastman’s misconduct and balancing the aggravation and mitigation, the court recommends that Eastman be disbarred,” Roland wrote in a 128-page decision.

Eastman was also ordered to pay $10,000 in monetary sanctions to the State Bar of California Client Security Fund.

He can appeal Wednesday’s ruling, and the case could ultimately end up before the California Supreme Court.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:15 pm
by Punisher
General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:26 pm
by Pyperkub
Punisher wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:15 pm General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
Each State has their own Bar, but generally lawyers are only licensed by one Bar and their exams. So he'd have to pass the Bar in another state to be able to practice there AFAIK (IANAL).

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 9:43 pm
by El Guapo
Pyperkub wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:26 pm
Punisher wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:15 pm General Question.
If that person does get disbarred does that mean they just can't practice in CA or the entire US.
Each State has their own Bar, but generally lawyers are only licensed by one Bar and their exams. So he'd have to pass the Bar in another state to be able to practice there AFAIK (IANAL).
That's correct, though it's not unusual for lawyers to be barred in more than one state (and many state bars allow you to be admitted without taking their bar exam if you've been practicing in another state for 5+ years). That said, I imagine many state bars would frown on a lawyer who has been disbarred in another state for known misconduct.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Wed Mar 27, 2024 11:50 pm
by Pyperkub
I did read that he is (was?) also licensed to practice in DC

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:32 pm
by Alefroth
Well would you look at that. He's lucky he isn't a Black woman in Texas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/
A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.

Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:36 pm
by El Guapo
Alefroth wrote: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:32 pm Well would you look at that. He's lucky he isn't a Black woman in Texas.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... al-voting/
A Georgia Republican official who pushed false claims that the 2020 election was “stolen” was found to have voted illegally nine times, a judge ruled this week.

Brian Pritchard, first vice chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, was ordered to pay a $5,000 fine, as well as investigative costs, and be publicly reprimanded.
FWIW Crystal Mason was acquitted just yesterday by a Texas appeals court. I assume that who you are referring to by "black woman in Texas".

Now, I think her case still serves as good voter suppression for the GOP because who would risk going through what she went through. But still good news.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:45 pm
by Alefroth
Yep, that's the reference. Acquitted after six years.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:05 am
by Unagi
What does "publicly reprimanded" entail these days?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 12:58 pm
by Alefroth
Unagi wrote: Sat Mar 30, 2024 11:05 am What does "publicly reprimanded" entail these days?
A newspaper classified ad?

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 6:51 am
by hepcat
A paddle, a camera and usually a 200 dollar deposit in some circles.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:23 am
by Unagi
Okay, so I'm not alone in the humor invoked by that line item.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:31 am
by hepcat
Unagi wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:23 am Okay, so I'm not alone
I like to think you're "lone".
Spoiler:

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:22 pm
by Brian
Ah, Batmanuel.

That was such a great show. Too bad they killed it.

Also, too bad they killed the next iteration too.
It maybe wasn't quite as good/funny as the first live action but it definitely had higher production values and a talented writing team.
I think I miss Danger Boat as much as I miss Batmanuel.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:00 am
by Unagi
hepcat wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:31 am
Unagi wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:23 am Okay, so I'm not alone
I like to think you're "lone".
Spoiler:
I think we are making a nice connection here.

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:46 am
by hepcat
Brian wrote: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:22 pm Ah, Batmanuel.

That was such a great show. Too bad they killed it.

Also, too bad they killed the next iteration too.
It maybe wasn't quite as good/funny as the first live action but it definitely had higher production values and a talented writing team.
I think I miss Danger Boat as much as I miss Batmanuel.
The great Néstor Carbonell made Batmanuel insanely hilarious. And while I love Tudyk (and Dangerboat) as much as the next nerd, I will always hold a special place in my comedy heart for Batmanuel.

" Another urban legend dispelled. Ninjas don't bounce."

Re: Election integrity and the transfer of power

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 1:55 pm
by Grifman
It’s official: