Cyberpunk 2077 from the makers of The Witcher

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:24 pm

Hey, fixed the issue. I just needed to update my graphics card drivers, as it turns out.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:00 pm

Dammit, I missed the opportunity to be the hero. I was going to suggest checking if the drivers needed to be updated, but figured I'd get yelled at for putting out something that obvious.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:07 pm

The lesson here is never make assumptions, at least that's what I assume should be the lesson. Should've tried a quickhack.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:22 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:24 pm Hey, fixed the issue. I just needed to update my graphics card drivers, as it turns out.

Good. Now get over to Night City. Judy and/or Panam need your help.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:00 am

Moliere wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:22 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:24 pm Hey, fixed the issue. I just needed to update my graphics card drivers, as it turns out.
Good. Now get over to Night City. Judy and/or Panam need your help.

Panam. Always Panam. Panam > Judy.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:22 am

Is Panam vs Judy the new Yennefer vs Triss?

#TeamJudy

Scraper · Post by **Scraper** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:38 am

Max Peck wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 11:22 am Is Panam vs Judy the new Yennefer vs Triss?

#TeamJudy

First of all it's always Yennifer. And yes it's also always Panam, EVERY time!

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:26 pm

I was all about Panam the first play through. The second playthrough I turned to team Judy. Her follow-up text messages, conversations with her Grandma, sending me presents to my apartment (twice!) made it so much better.

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:49 pm

Moliere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:26 pm I was all about Panam the first play through. The second playthrough I turned to team Judy. Her follow-up text messages, conversations with her Grandma, sending me presents to my apartment (twice!) made it so much better.

Ok, ok...I'll try. But if I'm not mistaken, I might have already removed myself from consideration by playing a male V. Is that still the case? Am I destined to be friend-zoned because I'm not female?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:52 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:49 pm
Moliere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:26 pm I was all about Panam the first play through. The second playthrough I turned to team Judy. Her follow-up text messages, conversations with her Grandma, sending me presents to my apartment (twice!) made it so much better.
Ok, ok...I'll try. But if I'm not mistaken, I might have already removed myself from consideration by playing a male V. Is that still the case? Am I destined to be friend-zoned because I'm not female?

My understanding is yes, Judy is limited to female Vs. Though I imagine there's a mod on that.

FWIW I'm Team Panam (and Team Triss), but I also played a male V so not exactly a choice.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 2:56 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:49 pm
Moliere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:26 pm I was all about Panam the first play through. The second playthrough I turned to team Judy. Her follow-up text messages, conversations with her Grandma, sending me presents to my apartment (twice!) made it so much better.
Ok, ok...I'll try. But if I'm not mistaken, I might have already removed myself from consideration by playing a male V. Is that still the case? Am I destined to be friend-zoned because I'm not female?

I don't know about mods, but yes, you need a female character for Judy. The second time when I used a female character it was funny to have her running around shooting everyone wearing heels and a mini skirt. They even included the heels sound effects while running on concrete.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 3:51 pm

Bayonetta 2.0?

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:01 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:52 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:49 pm
Moliere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 1:26 pm I was all about Panam the first play through. The second playthrough I turned to team Judy. Her follow-up text messages, conversations with her Grandma, sending me presents to my apartment (twice!) made it so much better.
Ok, ok...I'll try. But if I'm not mistaken, I might have already removed myself from consideration by playing a male V. Is that still the case? Am I destined to be friend-zoned because I'm not female?
My understanding is yes, Judy is limited to female Vs. Though I imagine there's a mod on that.

FWIW I'm Team Panam (and Team Triss), but I also played a male V so not exactly a choice.

That's what I thought...well, off to youtube to watch the romance videos I missed...

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:11 pm

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:01 pm That's what I thought...well, off to youtube to watch the romance videos I missed...

NSFW or children or spouse in the room.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:35 pm

Judy I recall was kinda cute. I was Triss all the way in the 3 Witcher games. If I ever..which I doubt..replay the last one Ill choose Yen for the heck of it. But Yen had been gone and was kinda pushy bossy. Triss was always theres and kind and helpful. Ya didn't read the books or I might have seen it different perhaps.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:58 pm

Moliere wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:11 pm
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:01 pm That's what I thought...well, off to youtube to watch the romance videos I missed...
NSFW or children or spouse in the room.

Well, with the right spouse...

Madmarcus · Post by **Madmarcus** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:18 pm

Judy always. Even on a male V I still find Judy to be more relatable and interesting.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm

Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:31 pm

Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach

Jack
Triss
Panam
Karlach

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 am

Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:31 pm
Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach
Jack
Triss
Panam
Karlach

Liara
Miranda (for both ME2 and ME3)
Triss
Panam
Shadowheart

Also for Dragon Age - Morrigan, Isabela, and Cassandra.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:02 am

Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach

Liara (x3, and regretted it)
I really need to go back and finish it (got distracted)
I really need to go back and finish it (got distracted)
I just met these people, geeze!

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:07 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 am Also for Dragon Age - Morrigan, Isabela, and Cassandra.

Leliana (1st play), Morrigan (2nd play), and Josephine. I never played enough DA2 - I got bored senseless.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:14 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 1:07 am
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 am Also for Dragon Age - Morrigan, Isabela, and Cassandra.
Leliana (1st play), Morrigan (2nd play), and Josephine. I never played enough DA2 - I got bored senseless.

Same. Cassandra was very nice. Enjoyed that romance line. Though I have a fleeting memory of a Merrill thrown in there in one play through.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Nov 10, 2023 5:18 pm

Blackwall ...

Madmarcus · Post by **Madmarcus** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 2:29 pm

I finally made it to the end of PL. It was a great story although just a little bit too long in a few places. I sided with Song all the way. Reed was sympathetic but the NUSA was not. I wish there had been dialog that reflected my reasoning more; interested in a cure of course but not expecting that either side can actually provide one.

I still have about 2/3rds of the main quest to do but I'm level 52 and rapidly burning out on the game. I've never gone to Embers so I should power through some of the quests that I've seen before and pick and ending but getting back to JA3 is calling.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:48 pm

When the game released I played all the way through as a country kid Nomad, then did a partial playthrough as a Streetkid. Now trying again with Phantom Liberty and the big 2.0 update installed as a Corpo.

gbasden · Post by **gbasden** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 4:28 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 12:02 am
Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 8:31 pm
Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach
Jack
Triss
Panam
Karlach
Liara
Miranda (for both ME2 and ME3)
Triss
Panam
Shadowheart

Also for Dragon Age - Morrigan, Isabela, and Cassandra.

Liara
Triss
Judy
Minthara

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:40 am

I probably should have taken the time to read up on the 2.0 changes. I spent way too much time wondering why all the weapons I looted had disappeared from my inventory before finally discovering that many are broken and you actually just loot a crafting component, while others apparently become crafting schematics, and just a few get looted as actual weapons.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:50 am

Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach

One at a time, or all at once?

Hyena · Post by **Hyena** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 12:40 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 10:50 am
Brian wrote: ↑Thu Nov 09, 2023 5:46 pm Ashley Williams
Miranda (Jack on 2nd playthrough)
Triss
Judy
Karlach
One at a time, or all at once?

Yes, please.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 2:17 pm

I think Triss and Judy would get along fine and make for a nice three way cuddle. Karlach and Jack would be arm wrestling at the corner table while downing pints and Miranda would just be standing there, hands on hips, asking how she got into this mess.

Ashley would be absent. Just like in ME2.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Nov 12, 2023 11:13 pm

Max Peck wrote: ↑Sun Nov 12, 2023 8:40 am I probably should have taken the time to read up on the 2.0 changes. I spent way too much time wondering why all the weapons I looted had disappeared from my inventory before finally discovering that many are broken and you actually just loot a crafting component, while others apparently become crafting schematics, and just a few get looted as actual weapons.

Ahhh, I was wondering that myself.

jztemple2 · Post by **jztemple2** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:18 am

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Sat Nov 11, 2023 6:48 pm When the game released I played all the way through as a country kid Nomad, then did a partial playthrough as a Streetkid. Now trying again with Phantom Liberty and the big 2.0 update installed as a Corpo.

Reached Chapter II, seven hours in. I'm actually a bit surprised I got this far as I don't usually enjoy replaying games that have story lines since I tend to keep remembering what's going to happen next. But so far I'm enjoying the experience.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 12:30 pm

My Streetkid is well on her way. Since her backstory implies she's an experienced operator, I'm simulating that by tracking down all possible XP in Watson before advancing the story.

She's all in on netrunning and smart guns. One-shotting a gonk by hip-firing a smart sniper rifle and watching the round steer itself into their head will never get old.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:32 pm

So I think I'm going to get the expansion if it goes on sale during any of the upcoming sales events, but I wonder if I should just abandon my 60 or so hours I have in the main game and start anew, as it's been at least a year since I last played.

The biggest issue I had with the game was that I made myself TOO powerful by taking the decks that allowed me to cause enemies at a distance to go nuts and attack their friends. I was relying on that for almost EVERYTHING. And it became a bit too easy after a while. I know, I could have just avoided using it. But it was too hard (and too fun) to resist.

Bumping up the difficulty didn't seem to help either.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:59 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:32 pm So I think I'm going to get the expansion if it goes on sale during any of the upcoming sales events, but I wonder if I should just abandon my 60 or so hours I have in the main game and start anew, as it's been at least a year since I last played.

The biggest issue I had with the game was that I made myself TOO powerful by taking the decks that allowed me to cause enemies at a distance to go nuts and attack their friends. I was relying on that for almost EVERYTHING. And it became a bit too easy after a while. I know, I could have just avoided using it. But it was too hard (and too fun) to resist.

Bumping up the difficulty didn't seem to help either.

Usually I just throw Contagion at a group of enemies from a distance and then pick off any stragglers from range, which is pretty easy, especially if you use the camera system at a facility to kill anyone within view of a camera. Again, I could not do that but....honestly I'm not looking for a challenge for the most part.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:24 pm

I like a bit of a challenge in these types of games. I had a similar issue with the Witcher games as I'd end up having to put the difficulty all the way to max after I leveled up to a certain point. That's not because I'm such a great player, but rather because I think some of the skills and equipment are harder to balance and I seem to always end up going with the combo that breaks some of that balance.

I guess I'm also curious if the latest update and/or the Phantom expansion does a bit of REbalancing.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:28 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 2:32 pm The biggest issue I had with the game was that I made myself TOO powerful by taking the decks that allowed me to cause enemies at a distance to go nuts and attack their friends. I was relying on that for almost EVERYTHING. And it became a bit too easy after a while. I know, I could have just avoided using it. But it was too hard (and too fun) to resist.

The Far Cry Primal strategy (or at least that was the game that taught me not to use it.)

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:30 pm

Yup, the meat tossed into a base strategy is my go to in ALL the Far Cry games that have it.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:31 pm

hepcat wrote: ↑Tue Nov 14, 2023 3:24 pm I guess I'm also curious if the latest update and/or the Phantom expansion does a bit of REbalancing.

Sort of? With 2.0, offensive quickhacks are traceable, so once you use them a timer starts counting down, after which the enemies will trace your location and enemy netrunners may attack you with their own quickhacks. Quickhacks are still powerful, but the netrunner is not completely immune to consequences (barring the use of cheese tactics to counter the traces).