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Grifman wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 2:20 pm
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When MTG is too left wing….
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malchior wrote: Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:54 pm This is a bluff you have to call. If they won't let you even participate in your own processes then they'll hold their threat over you until take away the funding for something else anyway. The next logical step is saying that if Pearson is re-elected...etc. You have to stand up to thugs. The time to fight is here.
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We must immediately call on the military to install our rightfully elected Emperor Trump!

Perhaps he is the God emperor predicted in war hammer 40k?

A small mind is easily filled with faith.

Seriously though once republicans in state legislations start voting to overturn the ballot box from 2020 there when the US is finished. I predict we will see that soon.
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I honestly think we are going to start seeing more and more political violence as the system keeps breaking down. The level of rage out there is very high on both sides. And regardless of what they believe, conservatives are not the only ones that are armed.
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Putin got his money’s worth, didn’t he?
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TN is a Republican cesspool:

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Spoiler - not just TN.
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Republicans retreating into “Fortress MAGA”:

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I feel like they're beyond parody at this point.


After rejecting a plan that would allow free lunch for kids who go hungry, North Dakota senators voted to increase their allowance for meals by 29%. If signed they will be allowed reimbursement of $45 PER Meal breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
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Seriously fucked up.
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PIgs at the trough.
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Even juries don’t matter to the Republican Party:

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It's hardly an original observation, but the GOP can no longer win fair elections anywhere but the reddest districts in the reddest states, so they must either (a) redefine their brand to appeal to the majority, or (b) invalidate election results. The problem with (a) is that the opposition party already owns the more popular policies, so that leaves (b).
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(c) give power ONLY to their voters
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They just need to only give white people the votes.

If they did this in 2020 Trump would have won like Reagan in 1984. This is why you see redistributing to invalidate black votes.
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Grifman wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:00 pm Even juries don’t matter to the Republican Party:

More blatant disregard for the rule of law from the party of law and order.
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Alefroth wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:12 pm
Grifman wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:00 pm Even juries don’t matter to the Republican Party:

More blatant disregard for the rule of law from the party of law and order.
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Smoove_B wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:26 am Spoiler - not just TN.
Yep. How many other states have R supermajorities in their legislatures? TN, SC, not sure how many others.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Mon Apr 10, 2023 8:42 am
Smoove_B wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:26 am Spoiler - not just TN.
Yep. How many other states have R supermajorities in their legislatures? TN, SC, not sure how many others.
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Kurth wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:32 pm
Alefroth wrote: Sun Apr 09, 2023 3:12 pm
Grifman wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:00 pm Even juries don’t matter to the Republican Party:

More blatant disregard for the rule of law from the party of law and order.
The comments in response to that post are unreal. So many references to video footage of the victim pointing his rifle at the shooter prior to being shot. “You conveniently leave out the fact that Perry only shot him after he pointed his rifle in Perry’s face. It’s on video!”

But it’s not. Nothing like that is on video. But it doesn’t matter. Disinformation rules the day.
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If you haven't been paying attention. The new attack on democracy involves flipping Democrats to Republican seats in places where it grants them supermajorities which I can only assume they'll use to dismantle democracy in their states. This happened in NC a few weeks ago and now 2 more in Louisiana now granting the GOP a supermajority there. So let's unpack this. You are a disenfranchised person. You vote for a person representing a platform. It must be totally ENFRANCHISING to see that person then almost immediately abandon it in a way that makes the other sides platform the defacto ruling standard. It feels like we are seeing an outline of a pattern but just a hunch at the moment. It is like the GOP infiltrated candidates where supermajorities were within reach. Very democratic!

Side note I love how the credulous media ascribes it breathlessly to Biden's unpopularity. As if it isn't at all suspicious that someone flips parties months after they were elected with strong majorities in relatively safe districts without any pressure. A smidge of skepticism is warranted here.

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So, what - these were like Republican spies pretending to be Democrats - or were they bought out or what? WTF.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:49 am So, what - these were like Republican spies pretending to be Democrats - or were they bought out or what? WTF.
Those are possibilities. This is appearing to be a new pattern. Guess we could look at red states with near super majorities and see if they all start popping leaks like this. Also keep in mind LA is like WI is a state where there are more registered Democrats (why they have a Democratic governor) but is HEAVILY gerrymandered towards Republican supermajorities which made the recent flips viable.
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Unagi wrote:(c) give power ONLY to their voters
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malchior wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:51 am
Unagi wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:49 am So, what - these were like Republican spies pretending to be Democrats - or were they bought out or what? WTF.
Those are possibilities. This is appearing to be a new pattern. Guess we could look at red states with near super majorities and see if they all start popping leaks like this.
And then realize that the only ones who can fix the leaks are the ones who chose to punch the holes in the dyke to begin with. And they don't wanna.
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malchior wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:51 am
Unagi wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:49 am So, what - these were like Republican spies pretending to be Democrats - or were they bought out or what? WTF.
Those are possibilities. This is appearing to be a new pattern. Guess we could look at red states with near super majorities and see if they all start popping leaks like this. Also keep in mind LA is like WI is a state where there are more registered Democrats (why they have a Democratic governor) but is HEAVILY gerrymandered towards Republican supermajorities which made the recent flips viable.
Is the Louisiana rep. also from a strong Democratic district, like the NC one? That's what's super suspicious about the NC switch. It's one thing if a holdover legacy Dixiecrat type switches parties, but corruption sure looms as an explanation for the NC switch, given that she was in a Biden +23 district, had supported the Democratic platform, and hasn't given any specific policy issues as an explanation for her party switch.
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El Guapo wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:38 pm
malchior wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:51 am
Unagi wrote: Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:49 am So, what - these were like Republican spies pretending to be Democrats - or were they bought out or what? WTF.
Those are possibilities. This is appearing to be a new pattern. Guess we could look at red states with near super majorities and see if they all start popping leaks like this. Also keep in mind LA is like WI is a state where there are more registered Democrats (why they have a Democratic governor) but is HEAVILY gerrymandered towards Republican supermajorities which made the recent flips viable.
Is the Louisiana rep. also from a strong Democratic district, like the NC one? That's what's super suspicious about the NC switch. It's one thing if a holdover legacy Dixiecrat type switches parties, but corruption sure looms as an explanation for the NC switch, given that she was in a Biden +23 district, had supported the Democratic platform, and hasn't given any specific policy issues as an explanation for her party switch.
The two that switched were strong D (> +15%) districts from what I read.
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I will say, the phrasing is obnoxious, but it doesn't strike me as totally out of bounds to ask someone who is going to work for the governor whether they support her policies and (alleged) accomplishments. It would only really start to get out of bounds for a commission that is intended to be non-partisan, I think.
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I think there is a gulf of difference between political vetting for appointments which has been with us for the history of the nation and asking for what amounts to a written loyalty test/oath. It's an authoritarian practice similar to Trump asking him to praise him.
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Ark Times
We wrote yesterday about a question on the application for Arkansas boards and commissions appointments that requires hopefuls to pen up to 500 words on what they adore most about our dear leader.

Specifically, the question was, “What is an accomplishment of the Governor’s that you admire the most?”

Appointments to Arkansas’s hundreds of boards and commissions are made by the governor, and it looks like Gov. Sarah Sanders wants to make sure her appointees like her, they really like her.

But technical difficulties are gumming up the works today. The page for applications churns up a 404 message. Go figure.

It’s unclear if the glitch has anything to do with the wave of criticism over Sanders’ requirement that applicants declare their admiration.

On AR Watch, a government watchdog group, points out that boards and commissions are often bipartisan, and their focus should be on issues that affect the state, not on serving as a fan club for their governor.
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That's easy, I can sum it up in four words: She cannot live forever.
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In other state legislature news, let's see what's happening in Arizona as they hop on the latest trend of expelling members:
GOP-controlled Arizona House votes to expel Republican representative
State Rep. Liz Harris was expelled Wednesday from the Arizona House of Representatives for ethics violations resulting from inviting a conspiracy theorist to publicly testify before lawmakers earlier this year.

The resolution to expel the first-term Republican, elected in November, stated that she had brought “disrepute and embarrassment to the House of Representatives,” resulting in “disorderly behavior.” Forty-six Arizona representatives in the GOP-controlled House voted to remove her from her elected position, meeting a two-thirds threshold to expel lawmakers. Thirteen members opposed her expulsion.

CNN reached out to Harris at her legislative office and personal number. She has not responded to CNN’s request for comment.
If you did a double-take there, you're not alone. That had to be some looney tunes testimony to get the GOP in AZ to oust one of their own. Crazy.

To be honest, I can't really imagine what could have been said that would have been deemed over the line given all the other craziness the GOP has tacitly approved if not openly endorsed. Wonder if there was something else going on there.
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Here's a happier take on the future of the R Party: it doesn't have one.
It’s been said that a rat is never more dangerous than when it finds itself trapped in a corner. Facing defeat, that rodent won’t perish in docile resignation. Teeth bared, it will lunge at its target determined to inflict as much damage as possible, shrieking and snarling until its last ragged breath.

That’s the Republican Party — a rat in its death throes.

Rampant book banning. Efforts to defund libraries. Criminalizing doctors and teachers for doing their jobs. Black legislators expelled from the state legislature for demanding action on gun violence after a school shooting. Voter suppression. Parents of trans children threatened with having their kids taken away.

With a rotting white supremacist foundation, all Republicans have is anti-democratic election denialism and attacks on children, librarians, and history to distract from its failure to lead this nation anywhere but into the abyss.

After Janet Protasiewicz, a Democrat, handily defeated Republican Dan Kelly last week in a crucial race for the Wisconsin State Supreme Court, Scott Walker, a former Wisconsin governor, chalked up the stunning loss to young voters being subject to “years of radical indoctrination — on campus, in school, with social media, and throughout culture. We have to counter it or conservatives will never win battleground states again.”

Counter it with what? Instead of easing up, Republicans have tripled-down on their politics of hate, harm, and retribution. Then they wonder why an all-in embrace of authoritarianism isn’t appealing to Gen Z. And it’s not just young voters being lost. In poll after poll, the GOP is on the wrong side of public opinion on abortion, gun control, and LGBTQ rights. In its rush to abandon democracy, the party is out of step and running out of time.
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Trump claimed “our opponents have done everything they can to crush our spirit and to break our will. But they failed. They’ve only made us stronger.”

That’s a fantasy for a party that has rarely looked weaker. While Republicans reclaimed the House in last year’s midterms, it was by a much smaller margin than predicted. And House Speaker Kevin McCarthy can’t control the Republican chaos caucus he empowered in exchange for the gavel, leaving the chamber he leads in a state of paralysis.

Instead, what Republicans are doing now is behaving like tenants who know their lease is running out and probably won’t be renewed. They’re breaking windows, kicking holes in the walls, and stripping out the copper fixtures.
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Under the weight of its obsolescence and incompetence, the Republican Party is collapsing. But like that cornered rat, they’re doing everything possible to leave whatever remains of our fragile democracy scarred and in ruins.
Bear in mind that the Mass. GOP is a smouldering ruin, so we might have a more optimistic perception here.
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