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I'm putting this here because the GOP sponsored the legislation that is now in effect for Texas students:

The defining experience of Jordan Zamora-Garcia’s high school career – a hands-on group project in civics class that spurred a new city ordinance in his Austin suburb – would now violate Texas law.

Since Texas lawmakers in 2021 passed a ban on lessons teaching that any one group is “inherently racist, sexist or oppressive”, a little-noticed provision of that legislation has triggered a massive fallout for civics education across the state.

Tucked into page 8 is a stipulation outlawing all assignments involving “direct communication” between students and their federal, state or local officials – short-circuiting the training young Texans receive to participate in democracy itself.

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Texas does require high schoolers to take a semester of government and a semester of economics, and is one of 38 states nationwide that mandates at least a semester of civics. But students told the 74 the courses typically rely on book learning and memorization, without hands-on lessons in civic participation.

“Students are now banned from advocating for something like a stop sign in front of their school,” Talarico said.

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The sections of the 2021 law limiting civic engagement pull directly from model legislation authored by the conservative scholar Stanley Kurtz, whose extensive writings seek to link an approach called “action civics” – what he calls “woke civics” – with leftist activism.

Kurtz argues the practice is a form of political “indoctrination” under the “deceptively soothing” heading of “civics”, a cause long celebrated on both the right and the left.

The action civics model was popularized by the nonprofit Generation Citizen and is used in more than a thousand classrooms across at least eight states. It teaches students about government by having them pick a local issue, research it and present their findings to officials.

The central philosophy is that “students learn civics best by doing civics”, Generation Citizen policy director Andrew Wilkes said.
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Interesting. The middle child just had an assignment to lobby for the protection of an endangered animal. I'm not sure if the letters were sent or not, but it definitely was addressed to Ted Cruz.
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Might as well address it to the local dump.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 9:12 pm Might as well address it to the local dump.
What’s wrong with addressing it to a specific piece of garbage?

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Unagi wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 7:10 am
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 9:12 pm Might as well address it to the local dump.
What’s wrong with addressing it to a specific piece of garbage?

;)
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One word describes the 21st Century Republican Party:



INSANE
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But if he won in 2020, he's not eligible to run again ;)
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gilraen wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 12:23 pm But if he won in 2020, he's not eligible to run again ;)
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gilraen wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 12:23 pm But if he won in 2020, he's not eligible to run again ;)
Quite the opposite, if you ask them. He's owed an extra 4 years. And I only wish I was joking.
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Grifman wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 11:38 am One word describes the 21st Century Republican Party:



INSANE
Wait wait wait, they let people pick multiple reasons.

It's really that Half the GOP just want to thwick liberals in the face.
Of those 50%, an additional 13% more actually like him.
Of those 50%, an additional 14% still want to pretend to be serious and smart.
Of those 50%, an additional 24% insist he actually won.


still, insane. But as the GOP distills itself into this product of hate and vitriol, we shouldn't be too shocked to see the "% numbers" go up.


Read it all this way: Only 25% of people voting for Trump still pretend they are doing it for reasons other than A,B,C or D.

Also frightening, now that I say it out loud.
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That is a valid way to do a poll. They don't have to be mutually exclusive. They just indicate different support factors in a decision. It'd be nice to know what percentage is saying they'd back Trump *in that poll* because it might be half. It could be 60%. You don't really know without digging in.
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malchior wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:44 pmThat is a valid way to do a poll. They don't have to be mutually exclusive.
Yeah, I didn't mean to say it was not valid, but just that it colors one group in a lot of ways, and makes that one group look more complex and diabolical, but I honestly don't even know what faith I put into anyone's poll answers that is planning to vote for Trump. Honestly.
malchior wrote: Tue May 02, 2023 9:44 pmThey just indicate different support factors in a decision. It'd be nice to know what percentage is saying they'd back Trump *in that poll* because it might be half. It could be 60%. You don't really know without digging in.
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Holman wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:59 pm
Skinypupy wrote: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:36 pm Hey, so…has anyone seen Herschel Walker since the midterms?

Not sure I’ve ever seen anyone get entirely erased from the political radar as thoroughly as he has been. Not even a Newsmax or OAN hit since he lost. Just…poof.
Isn't this what usually happens to losing candidates, especially outsiders with no prior political role?

Sure, now we live in the era of Kari Lake, but for the most part the losers have generally fallen off the scope.

In Herschel's case, particularly, there's no payoff in wasting time feeding him talking points, so why bother?
Maybe this is why he disappeared?
When Herschel Walker emailed a representative for billionaire industrialist and longtime family friend Dennis Washington in March 2022, he seemed to be engaging in normal behavior for a political candidate: He was asking for money.

But unbeknownst to Washington and the billionaire’s staff, Walker’s request was far more out of the ordinary. It was something campaign finance experts are calling “unprecedented,” “stunning,” and “jaw-dropping.” Walker wasn’t just asking for donations to his campaign; he was soliciting hundreds of thousands of dollars for his own personal company—a company that he never disclosed on his financial statements.

Emails obtained by The Daily Beast—and verified as authentic by a person with knowledge of the exchanges—show that Walker asked Washington to wire $535,200 directly to that undisclosed company, HR Talent, LLC.

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In the best possible circumstances, legal experts told The Daily Beast, the emails suggest exponential violations of federal fundraising rules; in the worst case, they could be an indication of more serious crimes, such as wire fraud.

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Walker never contributed any of his own money to his campaign, according to Federal Election Commission filings, and it’s unclear what happened to these particular funds. Walker may have ultimately returned the money to Washington, but he did not reroute the money to the super PAC, according to FEC filings and a person with direct knowledge of the events.
Too bad for him he wasn't elected - then he'd be untouchable.
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Would you like to know more?
2024 GOP presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy has unveiled his latest policy platform: raising the United States voting age to 25. According to Politico, the fact that such a move would require amending the Constitution–and that his own staff hates it–hasn’t dampened the 37-year-old entrepreneur’s ambitions to strip voting rights from millions of young Americans. Under Ramaswamy’s plan, Americans under 25 could only vote by joining the military, becoming a first responder, or passing a civics test. It’s not his first outlandish campaign promise; so far, he’s also promised to dismantle the Department of Education and use military force against cartels in Mexico, on top of other extreme talking points. Against all odds, though, Ramaswamy is polling at 5%, which is well ahead of established contenders like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley, and on par with Mike Pence.
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Someone was watching Starship Troopers recently.
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hepcat wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:44 pm Someone was watching Starship Troopers recently.
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Somehow not AI generated.



He could have made that much shorter. "Are you WHITE and SCARED? Call us today!"
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Skinypupy wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 2:02 pm Somehow not AI generated.



He could have made that much shorter. "Are you WHITE and SCARED? Call us today!"
That would require "intelligence"? ;)
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Not even attempting to hide it anymore.





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I'm a Southerner who was raised in GA/AL/MS with large family connections in TN/LA/SC.

When those state legislatures act like they're trying to revive the Confederacy, believe it: they're trying to revive the Confederacy, and their voters support it.
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This is a rant.

I believe GOP is the most Karen of them all, and the biggest hypocrite. They claim to be against "nanny state" which they often accuse the other side of being, yet they are the ones trying to interfere in EVERYTHING from public libraries to reproductive rights, by hiding behind the "morals" banners.

A news headline caught my eye recently: Texas man killed GF for getting abortion in Colorado. This guy was previously arrested for beating a pregnant woman (presumably the same woman). I had previously pointed that that pre-COVID, a leading cause of death for pregnant woman and new mothers was... homicide (presumably by her partner).

Abortion ban is only going to make it worse, and it was always about control. It was often presented about saving lives, but deep down, it was about control, and that means GOP is now the biggest nanny Karen of them all, because they are about controlling your life, whether you want it to, or not.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:13 pm Would you like to know more?
2024 GOP presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy has unveiled his latest policy platform: raising the United States voting age to 25. According to Politico, the fact that such a move would require amending the Constitution–and that his own staff hates it–hasn’t dampened the 37-year-old entrepreneur’s ambitions to strip voting rights from millions of young Americans. Under Ramaswamy’s plan, Americans under 25 could only vote by joining the military, becoming a first responder, or passing a civics test. It’s not his first outlandish campaign promise; so far, he’s also promised to dismantle the Department of Education and use military force against cartels in Mexico, on top of other extreme talking points. Against all odds, though, Ramaswamy is polling at 5%, which is well ahead of established contenders like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley, and on par with Mike Pence.
Disenfranchising the youngest voters seems to be in vogue among the GOP recently, probably because they tend to vote left. There were talks about taking away polling places on college campuses and so on on those "GOP Election Strategy Leaked" articles.
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I believe GOP is the most Karen of them all,
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Kasey Chang wrote:
Smoove_B wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 8:13 pm Would you like to know more?
2024 GOP presidential contender Vivek Ramaswamy has unveiled his latest policy platform: raising the United States voting age to 25. According to Politico, the fact that such a move would require amending the Constitution–and that his own staff hates it–hasn’t dampened the 37-year-old entrepreneur’s ambitions to strip voting rights from millions of young Americans. Under Ramaswamy’s plan, Americans under 25 could only vote by joining the military, becoming a first responder, or passing a civics test. It’s not his first outlandish campaign promise; so far, he’s also promised to dismantle the Department of Education and use military force against cartels in Mexico, on top of other extreme talking points. Against all odds, though, Ramaswamy is polling at 5%, which is well ahead of established contenders like Liz Cheney and Nikki Haley, and on par with Mike Pence.
Disenfranchising the youngest voters seems to be in vogue among the GOP recently, probably because they tend to vote left. There were talks about taking away polling places on college campuses and so on on those "GOP Election Strategy Leaked" articles.
It's in vogue because they want to control who votes AND high turnout has ALWAYS favored the recent democratic party. Anything which restricts voting is good.

See Voter ID, same day registration, driving people to vote, early voting, mail in voting, giving people waiting in line to vote water, college voting at college, purging the rolls, revoking felons right to vote after their sentences are complete and even telling them they can vote before stressing them.

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Another sanctimonious, holier than thou fuckhead is getting a divorce. This time it’s Boebert. They love telling everyone else how immoral they are, but it’s all hypocrisy. Just like Greene, I fully expect stories of affairs soon.
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36 year-old divorced grandma. Yikes.

EDIT: Article that reads like an episode of Jerry Springer. RIP.
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record scratch


WAIT A MINUTE!
She is a 36 yo GRANDMA ?!?!?!?
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Unagi wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:11 pm She is a 36 yo GRANDMA ?!?!?!?
Soon.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:13 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:11 pm She is a 36 yo GRANDMA ?!?!?!?
Soon.
Full LOLs
Of course, the maths must involve this:
Ms Boebert was herself a teenage mother, conceiving a child with then-boyfriend Jayson Boebert and giving birth for the first time at the age of 19.
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I simply LOVE THIS:
There are upsides to the pregnancy, Ms Boebert said.....

... he’s close to me and I get to instruct him now on how to be a loving father and how to raise a baby.
OMG - this is so tragic and also so hilarious (or maybe I have given up).

"The upside to being a child that is raising a child that is suddenly-a-father-to-a-child is that you being almost 40 years old, can now teach your child how to be a good father to that child."

OMG. We are so fucking fucked.
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As Republican power wanes, this is going to become more and more common:

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It is like an inverse law. The less votes they have, the more power they attempt to permanently seize for themselves. I wonder if there are words to describe this...
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:07 pm 36 year-old divorced grandma. Yikes.

EDIT: Article that reads like an episode of Jerry Springer. RIP.
Quote from Boebert
"I always been faithful in my marriage, and I believe strongly in marriage, which makes this announcement that much more difficult”
So yeah, expect news of an affair shortly. Probably another "personal trainer" like the one fellow family values proponent Marjorie Failure Greene was jumping on when her husband wasn't around.
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Kasey Chang wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:16 pm
I had previously pointed that that pre-COVID, a leading cause of death for pregnant woman and new mothers was... homicide (presumably by her partner).

Worth noting that suicides are homicides too so this may require some research. Postpartum depression is a thing.





Re Boebeart:
I am grateful for our years of marriage together and for our beautiful children, all of whom deserve privacy and love as we work through this process.
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I do not intend to discuss this matter any further in public out of respect for our children and will continue to work hard to represent the people of Colorado’s 3rd Congressional District,” her statement said.
How do we respect her kids' privacy?

I guess follow the bar she set?

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Unagi wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 10:11 pm record scratch


WAIT A MINUTE!
She is a 36 yo GRANDMA ?!?!?!?
I once worked with a woman who was a 34-year-old grandma (and no, neither she nor her daughter had any common sense).
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And Packers fans, no less. :naughty:
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Maybe they're Jets fans, now that Rodgers is no longer part of the team.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 11:52 am
Kasey Chang wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 10:16 pm
I had previously pointed that that pre-COVID, a leading cause of death for pregnant woman and new mothers was... homicide (presumably by her partner).

Worth noting that suicides are homicides too so this may require some research. Postpartum depression is a thing.
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Pregnancy-Associated Homicide and Suicide
Of all deaths with known pregnancy status, 3,203 were by homicide (30.8%) and 7,208 (69.2%) were by suicide. Pregnancy-associated homicide deaths made up 20.6% of all homicide deaths, and pregnancy-associated suicide deaths made up 8.8% of all suicide deaths.
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