Octopus Overlords

Coming on 4/25. Will have to hold me over until the next season of The Sandman

Color me intrigued.

I loved their appearance on the late, great Doom Patrol, so I’m in. I just wish Netflix had kept Lockwood and Co.. I enjoyed that show as well.

I have no idea what this is and the trailer didn't help. But Im interested.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:19 pm I have no idea what this is and the trailer didn't help. But Im interested.

The concept is pretty much what it looks like - two dead kids who are detectives. It was originally a DC (Sandman) comic written by Neil Gaiman, and the show started as a spin-off of Doom Patrol. If you haven't seen Doom Patrol, just consider that it was a show based on a comic (that was originally a copy of X-Men) that included a woman with 64 personalities (each with a different superpower), a robot with a human brain, a human with a robot brain (sort of), as well as others as main characters, and a sentient street as a recurring character. Oh, and don't forget were-butts.

So, the concept is simple, but where they take it is anyone's guess.

Yep that sounds totally simple. And I know of Doom Patrol. I was happy to see Brendan Fraser getting work back when it came out.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:23 pm If you haven't seen Doom Patrol, just consider that it was a show based on a comic (that was originally a copy of X-Men)

It's the other way around.

First appearance of X-Men: September 1963
First appearance of Doom Patrol: June 1963

But you already knew this.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:31 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:15 pm Doom Patrol started off as an X Men rip off.

Yep. They ripped off X-Men by beating them to the press by three months.

Given the time it takes to launch a new book, there's every likelihood that they were one of those coincidences of simultaneous development. Neither existed when the other was created, unless someone behind the scenes leaked it one way or the other (and there's be no way to know which way such a leak went.)

Just like Man-Thing and Swamp Thing.

Sometimes the universe just works in mysterious ways.

I really only know the Dead Boy Detectives from their appearance in The Sandman and then their spinoff comics. I was surprised to see them on the HBO Doom Patrol series, but that wasn't unusual - pretty much every episode was non-stop surprise.

I would kill for a decent Man-Thing show. We already had a pretty good Swamp Thing tv show on DC Universe...until it got unceremoniously canned.

But I would imagine a mute, unthinking swamp creature is a harder story to write when it's not supposed to be the villain...much.

I thought it worked well (recently) in:
Not sure if that's spoiler-worthy, but I really enjoyed that limited run show. I was kinda hoping it would kick off some additional stuff but I'm guessing it was part of the "restructuring" after overload shuffle.

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:09 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:23 pm If you haven't seen Doom Patrol, just consider that it was a show based on a comic (that was originally a copy of X-Men)

It's the other way around.

First appearance of X-Men: September 1963
First appearance of Doom Patrol: June 1963

But you already knew this.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sat Oct 09, 2021 12:31 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:15 pm Doom Patrol started off as an X Men rip off.

Yep. They ripped off X-Men by beating them to the press by three months.

Given the time it takes to launch a new book, there's every likelihood that they were one of those coincidences of simultaneous development. Neither existed when the other was created, unless someone behind the scenes leaked it one way or the other (and there's be no way to know which way such a leak went.)

I've never read a single issue of Doom Patrol, and only a few issues of X-Men (and most of those scattered into other storylines.)

In other words, my memory sucks.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Fri Apr 05, 2024 2:22 pm Just like Man-Thing and Swamp Thing.

Or Babylon 5 and Deep Space 9.

Just a quick bump to remind you that it was released today. It's 8 episodes and each is about an hour.

I watched the first episode and really enjoyed it. I was miffed they recast the actors initially, but the new ones are quite good after all.

But I will always hear Cliff calling Edwin “Judge Harry Potter” in my head…

Edit: 2 episodes in and it just gets better. It’s got the absurdity of Doom Patrol mixed with the world building of Sandman. I was also pleasantly surprised to see Death from the aforementioned Sandman make an appearance. I’ve always appreciated Gaiman’s take on the character. A being of kindness and compassion instead of the usual depiction full of fear and dread.

Edit 2: I just realized that
Edit 3: 3rd episode was great fun. The show is reminding me more and more of the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, but with more humor and a larger group of characters I really like and not just tolerate. It can also be surprisingly creepy.

Edit 4: I want a Cat King spinoff.

And finished. Honestly, this was up there with Doom Patrol and Sandman in terms of quality. I can’t recommend it enough. The cast has Buffy and Angel levels of chemistry. They were just fantastic.

Finished it last night and we both loved it.

My wife didn't remember them in Doom Patrol so I showed her and she thinks the new actors are much better.
Here's hoping for a new franchise with multiple seasons.

I ended up liking the recast actors FAR more than I expected. I do have to wonder how much of that is due to the new actors getting a lot more time to stretch in their roles though. But they were all excellent as an ensemble. I even ended up liking Niko, who I thought would get cloying after a while. And the actress who played the witch? <chef's kiss>

What surprised me is how the show is incredibly adept at pulling both laughter and tears out of its audience, I must say.

And again: the Cat King deserves his own spin off.

Y'all have convinced me to watch this, but we have a bunch of other shows in line already and Wife seldom goes away anymore so I don't have time for me-shows. It's gonna be a while.

We're three episodes away from the end of Ripley (speaking of Netflix) and then Wife wants to watch the movie version. After that, I finally get to see Three Body Problem. After that, Discovery should be done airing so we can watch that and I can cancel Paramount. Might be an opening after that, although she gets to make a pick after 3 Body.

I only just finished the first episode, but I really liked it - has a comic book feel to it. It's making me want to re-read The Sandman again. Every time I do, I pick up on something new I missed in a previous re-read. It's truly one of the only stories I've re-read multiple times and each time it's slightly different.

Anyway, I'm glad this made it to Netflix and if the remaining 7 are anything like the first 1, it's going to be great.

Kraken wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 6:56 pm
We're three episodes away from the end of Ripley (speaking of Netflix) and then Wife wants to watch the movie version.

Which movie? The Talented Mr. Ripley or the John Malkovich as Ripley version of Ripley's Game? I like both, but Malkovich always plays a more convincing psycho.

Also, I just found out not long ago that Wim Wenders made a Ripley movie back in the 70s with Dennis Hopper as Ripley. I need to find that one.

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed May 08, 2024 3:24 pm

Kraken wrote: ↑Sun May 05, 2024 6:56 pm
We're three episodes away from the end of Ripley (speaking of Netflix) and then Wife wants to watch the movie version.

Which movie? The Talented Mr. Ripley or the John Malkovich as Ripley version of Ripley's Game? I like both, but Malkovich always plays a more convincing psycho.

Also, I just found out not long ago that Wim Wenders made a Ripley movie back in the 70s with Dennis Hopper as Ripley. I need to find that one.

Spoiler:

"Talented" with Matt Damon, who reportedly plays a more relatable Ripley. It's available on demand via Prime.

I've seen them all. I was surprised at how good Damon was, but I still prefer the older, more cunning Malkovich version of Ripley.

Speaking of which, there's an easter egg tie in near the end that I won't ruin, but that you now know to look for in Ripley.