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Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:30 am
by Scoop20906
Interesting! No way do we shoot you Vorret. We shoot chaos and thereby prove whether you are telling the truth. The unfortunate truth is you could still be converted today that you've announced yourself. Heck, you could have just been a converted normal and trying to draw out the real Reagan.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:34 am
by Scoop20906
Question to everyone: if I noticed something that could potentially reveal one of our specials should I point it out since it's possible the baddies saw it too or should I sit on it. It actually supports Vorret's claim too.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:34 am
by Vorret
Oh, I don't ask to be shot but lynched.
Unless I was protected last night, I need to die.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:35 am
by Scoop20906
When I say shoot I mean lynched. I'll stop using the shoot term.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:37 am
by Vorret
Gotcha :)

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:37 am
by Vorret
 ChaosRaven 
 


I'm gonna support my own claim

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:19 am
by Remus West
Question for the mod:
OP wrote:Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player.

I read that to mean our Seer would be told exactly what the player was when he scanned them - i.e. Teddy, Lincoln, Clinton, Jackson, Republican. Is that correct or is he just told Dem/Rep?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:22 am
by El Guapo
Ok then.

 Chaosraven 
 


Do we shoot Chaosraven? Doing so exposes Teddy.

Also if Vorret is faking the question is whether Reagan should reveal to expose Vorret. That's a no brainer (I think) if Real Reagan has found at least one democrat. Even if he's found all republicans, almost certainly still worth it (risk dying tonight and having Vorret go the rest of the game uncontested is too high).

Vorret faking seems unlikely - I would think he would only do that right now if he thought that we were about to vote for a democrat, which I don't think there's much basis for assuming that (though it's possible).

Other question is whether Teddy protects Vorret tonight (assuming he remains uncontested). Normally a no-brainer, but due to the conversion we'll have no idea whether we can trust Vorret's scan tomorrow.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:27 am
by Vorret
Again, unless I was protected last night there's no way you guys can trust whatever I say tomorrow.
If I was protected last night though that means I'm going to die tonight so I won't be able to give a scan result anyway....

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:28 am
by triggercut
Ugh. I wish Ronnie would've come forward yesterday! That would've made a rather bit of a huge difference, no?

Vorret, what if you were the person protected when the Dems missed? You'd be dead today, and never have gotten a chance to braindump.

I was worried RMC was Teddy, actually. Hopefully I guess he wasn't.

I think if Teddy's out there, he should stay hidden if possible and try to protect Vorret if he can.

I tend to trust Vorret's claim as Ronnie. There's no reason for the Dems to spoof that role...unless bb2112 was Ronnie and they know that after killing him.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:29 am
by Remus West
I'd think that if Vorret is faking a living Reagan MUST counter him. If he is shown to be lying then we look at the unknown dead - bb2112 and Lassr to decide who we need to use Lincoln on as one of them must be Reagan.

That said, on the surface it seems like an odd play if he is not telling the truth. I only have a half day with students today so I will probably have time to look at the possible reasons a Dem might do this later today.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:31 am
by Remus West
triggercut wrote:Ugh. I wish Ronnie would've come forward yesterday! That would've made a rather bit of a huge difference, no?

Vorret, what if you were the person protected when the Dems missed? You'd be dead today, and never have gotten a chance to braindump.

I was worried RMC was Teddy, actually. Hopefully I guess he wasn't.

I think if Teddy's out there, he should stay hidden if possible and try to protect Vorret if he can.

I tend to trust Vorret's claim as Ronnie. There's no reason for the Dems to spoof that role...unless bb2112 was Ronnie and they know that after killing him.
How would they know that?

Question for the mod: Are they told the role of their night kills?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:06 pm
by Moliere
Remus West wrote:Question for the mod: Are they told the role of their night kills?
They are only told Republican or Democrat.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:15 pm
by El Guapo
Remus West wrote:Question for the mod:
OP wrote:Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player.

I read that to mean our Seer would be told exactly what the player was when he scanned them - i.e. Teddy, Lincoln, Clinton, Jackson, Republican. Is that correct or is he just told Dem/Rep?
Thanks, Moliere. Don't forget this question, too.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 1:36 pm
by Moliere
El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote:Question for the mod:
OP wrote:Ronald Reagan: Can tell who is acting and therefore sees the true role of any ALIVE player.

I read that to mean our Seer would be told exactly what the player was when he scanned them - i.e. Teddy, Lincoln, Clinton, Jackson, Republican. Is that correct or is he just told Dem/Rep?
Thanks, Moliere. Don't forget this question, too.
They are only told Republican or Democrat.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:04 pm
by Vorret
See, I gave you all I got !
I haven't been turned yet so either the dem with that power has not checked the post yet or I'm lucky !

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:12 pm
by El Guapo
Vorret wrote:See, I gave you all I got !
I haven't been turned yet so either the dem with that power has not checked the post yet or I'm lucky !
Or they already used the conversion. Or you were protected last night by Teddy.

Also, you know that if we ask you have to say if you were converted, right? It's like if you ask someone if they are a cop.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:14 pm
by Vorret
El Guapo wrote:
Vorret wrote:See, I gave you all I got !
I haven't been turned yet so either the dem with that power has not checked the post yet or I'm lucky !
Or they already used the conversion. Or you were protected last night by Teddy.

Also, you know that if we ask you have to say if you were converted, right? It's like if you ask someone if they are a cop.
That makes things much easier , I won't feel guilty lying :wink:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:19 pm
by triggercut
I'm good with offing  Chaosraven 
 
today.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:50 pm
by Moliere
theohall ->
triggercut -> Chaosraven
Scoop20906 ->
Vorret -> Chaosraven
Chaosraven ->
El Guapo -> Chaosraven
Remus West ->
Qantaga ->
tru1cy ->

Chaosraven (3): Vorret, El Guapo, triggercut

Five votes are needed.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 6:54 pm
by theohall
 Chaosraven 
 

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:18 pm
by Scoop20906
HEY! Can we at least see if any in challenges this before we get chaos to n-1?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:40 pm
by bb2112
:binky:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:41 pm
by Chaosraven
Scoop20906 wrote:HEY! Can we at least see if any in challenges this before we get chaos to n-1?
Nope.

theohall makes n-1

 CHAOSRAVEN 
 

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:42 pm
by Chaosraven
hey Vorret, one friggin' guess which Democrat I am.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:45 pm
by Scoop20906
I shouldn't bitch but !!!!! We could have handled this better. Didn't even occur to me he might be the zerker. I just wanted others to check in first.

Any final words Chaos?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 9:45 pm
by Chaosraven
Oh, wait I mean, blah blah blah yeah I am really the seer and vorret is lying blah blah blah. Scanned so and so and somesuch blah blah blah.

BANG

:twisted:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:19 pm
by El Guapo
Wait a minute guys ... through my careful skills of deduction, I am starting to suspect that Chaosraven is a democrat.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:08 pm
by Vorret
Chaosraven wrote:hey Vorret, one friggin' guess which Democrat I am.
Well it's not fair now that I've read your new post.

Can I dodge?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:52 pm
by Moliere
Vorret wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:hey Vorret, one friggin' guess which Democrat I am.
Well it's not fair now that I've read your new post.

Can I dodge?
Only if Teddy was protecting you last night.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:53 pm
by Chaosraven
Moliere wrote:
Vorret wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:hey Vorret, one friggin' guess which Democrat I am.
Well it's not fair now that I've read your new post.

Can I dodge?
Only if Teddy was protecting you last night.
how about it theo?

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:56 pm
by Moliere
As the votes are being counted Chaosraven grabs the gun, shoots Vorret, and then shoots himself. Black blood oozes out of him and with a final look of glee he falls to the floor.

It is now Night. Send in your orders.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:04 am
by El Guapo
I don't see why Chaosraven shot himself instead of shooting a second Republican.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:05 am
by El Guapo
ALSO - this game the village lynched a wolf AND only indirectly caused the death of the seer. I'm calling this a victory no matter what else happens this game.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 12:21 am
by Remus West
El Guapo wrote:ALSO - this game the village lynched a wolf AND only indirectly caused the death of the seer. I'm calling this a victory no matter what else happens this game.
:lol:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 7:00 am
by Vorret
Am I dead? A lot of people survive gunshot wounds with today's technology. :binky:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:29 am
by Remus West
Vorret wrote:Am I dead? A lot of people survive gunshot wounds with today's technology. :binky:
You should be fine. Hinkley wasn't a good shot.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 9:14 pm
by Moliere
Another morning another body hanging from the rafters of the Republican HQ. This time the victim is theohall.

triggercut ->
Scoop20906 ->
El Guapo ->
Remus West ->
Qantaga ->
tru1cy ->

It is now Day 5. Four votes are needed.

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 10:30 pm
by theohall
:binky:

Re: Battle of the Presidents

Posted: Fri Jan 24, 2014 1:47 am
by Remus West
With Qantaga and tru1cy being dead weight I think we have a problem. I do not see any one of us going the self vote route and without that we can not get to 4 votes unless Qantaga or tru1cy show up to cast one. :?