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Jeff V wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:00 pm So how many are in line in front of you?

I got 26 million. Wife got nearly the head of the line - it didn't give a number, but said if a line of 100 represented the state of Illinois, she would be 6.

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Massachusetts, we think you’re behind 5.4 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Norfolk County, you’re behind 533,000 others.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:00 pm An ER doc explained the mRNA vaccine to me like this:

mRNA will tell your body to produce the COVID spike protein. Your body will then in turn produce antibodies for the protein, which will also work against COVID-19.



Do I want my body producing spike proteins? Not sure. Does it stop when the mRNA breaks down? Or is that permenantly coded now? I mean I assume it stops.

Kraken wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:46 pm Hah, I'm at the very end of the line.

Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind 268.7 million people across the United States.

When it comes to Massachusetts, we think you’re behind 5.4 million others who are at higher risk in your state.

And in Norfolk County, you’re behind 533,000 others.

At 63 I'm not quite elderly, and I don't have any health conditions. They won't get around to me until next summer. That's fine.

Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 2:45 pm After playing around with it for a bit, I'm a bit skeptical of that NYT estimate. As far as I can tell, age doesn't change the estimate at all (an 80 year old had the same estimate as a 23 year old). Neither does being an essential worker or a teacher. Really, it seems the only things that matter for the esimate is whether you're a healthcare worker or first responder and if you have an underlying medical issue.

stessier wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:34 pm Does it matter based on state? Because I could totally see SC being different than IL.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:38 pm I'm curious as if I'll be able to get it quicker than the average joe simply because I work for a hospital. While I'm not directly engaged in patient care, all hospital employees typically get treated as if they will, at some point, come into contact with a patient. So that means we have to go through PPE training, tuberculosis screenings, mandatory flu shots, etc.

I don't really care either way, and in fact would rather step to the back of the line to make sure the people in real danger get it first, but it's going to be interesting to see whether they classify me as a "healthcare worker" or an "IT worker." Then you have even further shades of gray, because while I'm not one of them, we do have IT folks who go into patient rooms. How granular are they going to get?

So far the only thing we've been told is that we will not be REQUIRED to get a Covid vaccine.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 3:38 pm I don't really care either way, and in fact would rather step to the back of the line to make sure the people in real danger get it first, but it's going to be interesting to see whether they classify me as a "healthcare worker" or an "IT worker." Then you have even further shades of gray, because while I'm not one of them, we do have IT folks who go into patient rooms. How granular are they going to get?

Lenders, bank tellers and traders could jump ahead of most Americans for vaccines, after such remedies receive emergency authorization by the Food and Drug Administration, potentially putting financial industry workers ahead of those aged above 65, adults with medical issues and the rest of the U.S. population.

The American Bankers Association said it has asked for the CDC to designate financial services industry as “essential workers,” following guidelines issued by the Department of Homeland Security.

Unagi wrote: What county were you doing Ralph?

Jeff V wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:00 pm So how many are in line in front of you?

I got 26 million. Wife got nearly the head of the line - it didn't give a number, but said if a line of 100 represented the state of Illinois, she would be 6.

disarm wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 9:03 pm

Jeff V wrote: ↑Fri Dec 04, 2020 1:00 pm So how many are in line in front of you?

I got 26 million. Wife got nearly the head of the line - it didn't give a number, but said if a line of 100 represented the state of Illinois, she would be 6.

As an anesthesiologist in Connecticut, it looks like I'm going to be pretty much at the front of the line...based not only on that article, but also the information I'm getting from the hospital system within which I work. There's a very good chance I'll be able to receive a vaccine before the end of the month.

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 12:40 am I'm wondering whether we'll get any bump in line due to being primary caregivers for a medically vulnerable kid. The NYT thing says I'm toward the back of the line, but I'm hoping to get ahead to try to keep my kid safe.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:35 am So wheres that idiot Jenny McCarthy in all this? I haven't heard her anti vax voice during this stuff or any other one.

Dec. 6, 2020

WASHINGTON — A doctor who is skeptical of coronavirus vaccines and promotes the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a Covid-19 treatment will be the lead witness at a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on Tuesday, prompting criticism from Democrats who say Republicans should not give a platform to someone who spreads conspiracy theories.

Dr. Jane M. Orient is the executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a group that opposes government involvement in medicine and views federal vaccine mandates as a violation of human rights.

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 12:10 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Dec 07, 2020 11:35 am So wheres that idiot Jenny McCarthy in all this? I haven't heard her anti vax voice during this stuff or any other one.

She's busy with TV presumably.


Don't worry, the Senate has got it covered:

Dec. 6, 2020

WASHINGTON — A doctor who is skeptical of coronavirus vaccines and promotes the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a Covid-19 treatment will be the lead witness at a Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on Tuesday, prompting criticism from Democrats who say Republicans should not give a platform to someone who spreads conspiracy theories.

Dr. Jane M. Orient is the executive director of the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, a group that opposes government involvement in medicine and views federal vaccine mandates as a violation of human rights.

Daehawk wrote:So wheres that idiot Jenny McCarthy in all this?

The Trump administration opted last summer not to lock in a chance to buy millions of additional doses of one of the leading coronavirus vaccine contenders, a decision that could delay the delivery of a second batch of doses until manufacturer Pfizer fulfills other international contracts.

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Under its contract with Pfizer, the Trump administration committed to buy an initial 100 million doses, with an option to purchase as many as five times more.

This summer, the White House opted not to lock in an additional 100 million doses for delivery in the second quarter of 2021, according to people who spoke about the matter on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss it publicly.

Days ahead of the vaccine’s expected approval, the administration is reversing course, but it is not clear that Pfizer, which has since made commitments to other countries, will be able to meet the latest request on the same timeline.