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Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:34 am Uh did they arrest her? What in the holy hell is wrong with people? I'll never understand why people are so worked up about a mask that they think it's life or death. Oh wait it is..

LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:59 am

Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:34 am Uh did they arrest her? What in the holy hell is wrong with people? I'll never understand why people are so worked up about a mask that they think it's life or death. Oh wait it is..

If you listen, she didn't threaten to shoot. That was an inference to excite the twitter reader. She said guns loaded and then was cut off, it's very easy to say that's a figure of speech. If it were airport, I can see her being arrested no question asked. Sadly, in all too many cases, in a school, we don't treat that sort of speech as threats.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:59 am

Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:34 am Uh did they arrest her? What in the holy hell is wrong with people? I'll never understand why people are so worked up about a mask that they think it's life or death. Oh wait it is..

If you listen, she didn't threaten to shoot.

I will bring every single gun loaded and ready to...I will call every... (cut off)

That was an inference to excite the twitter reader. She said guns loaded and then was cut off, it's very easy to say that's a figure of speech.

If it were airport, I can see her being arrested no question asked. Sadly, in all too many cases, in a school, we don't treat that sort of speech as threats.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:21 pm Right or wrong (it's wrong at schools but that's just me and 200,000,000 people who feel this way) people use "Guns loaded" "Loaded for Bear" "guns blazing" etc all of the time as expressions.

Results

Of the study sample, 17.2% (N = 1842) indicated they were hesitant about having the vaccine. After adjustment for age, sex, and ethnicity, study members with a lower baseline cognition score were markedly more likely to be vaccine hesitant (odds ratio per standard deviation lower score in cognition; 95% confidence interval: 1.76; 1.62, 1.90). Adjustment for mental and physical health plus household shielding status had no impact on these results, whereas controlling for educational attainment led to partial attenuation but the probability of hesitancy was still elevated (1.52; 1.37, 1.67). There was a linear association for vaccine hesitancy across the full range of cognition scores (p for trend: p < 0.0001).

YellowKing wrote: ↑Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:03 pm I can tell you if a parent uttered the expression "guns loaded" at my wife's school, action would be taken. It may be dismissed as a figure of speech in some parts of the country, but here that would not fly.

I think they cut the woman off to save her from the trouble she was about to get herself into.

Defiant wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:09 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:00 pm When I see stories like that, my immediate response is dark, and not terribly socially appropriate.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:46 pm So much dumb. Someone plz spoon feed them some common sense.

Neil Young Demands Spotify Remove His Music Over ‘False Information About Vaccines’

“They can have [Joe] Rogan or Young,” Neil Young wrote in a letter to his manager and label. “Not both”

dbt1949 wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:35 pm Why are people still getting shots?
I would have thought by this time everybody would have made up their minds one way or another. I find it hard to believe that somebody is just now making up their mind.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:49 pm Yeah I despise those incentives. For those who do the right thing, nothing. Being a stubborn son of a bitch until you're bribed? Here's your reward!

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:59 pm

YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:49 pm Yeah I despise those incentives. For those who do the right thing, nothing. Being a stubborn son of a bitch until you're bribed? Here's your reward!

Eh, I'm OK with them.

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 4:52 pm Whatever it takes to get folks vaccinated. I'm glad I got my vaccine as early as I could and would have paid an extra $100 for it. Plus, my oldest son got the bribe! (Although the gift card has yet to arrive in the mail . . . .)

But that doesn't mean OSHA is giving up entirely. In addition to the law that enables the agency to issue temporary emergency standards, Congress has given OSHA the statutory ability to set workplace safety standards through the standard federal rule-making process. This process involves publishing draft rules in the Federal Register, soliciting public feedback, and formulating a formal rule taking that feedback into account.

The process is much slower and will likely take most of the year to complete. But, critically, the language of the law enabling this process is completely different, so the recent court ruling will not apply to it. That's not to say that the same justices won't find different reasons to block the rule, just it's more likely to survive than the emergency standard, given the recent decision.

In the meantime, the OSHA's statement on the matter ends by noting the agency, "strongly encourages vaccination of workers against the continuing dangers posed by COVID-19 in the workplace."

stessier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:23 pm OSHA is withdrawing it's mandate and going about it through the Rule Making process. Given the likelihood that COVID is here long term, this is probably a good plan.

malchior wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:30 pm

stessier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:23 pm OSHA is withdrawing it's mandate and going about it through the Rule Making process. Given the likelihood that COVID is here long term, this is probably a good plan.

Hard disagree. They withdrew it because the Supreme court is politicized. This wasn't based on any science or any notion of good governance.

stessier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:31 pm

malchior wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:30 pm

stessier wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 5:23 pm OSHA is withdrawing it's mandate and going about it through the Rule Making process. Given the likelihood that COVID is here long term, this is probably a good plan.

Hard disagree. They withdrew it because the Supreme court is politicized. This wasn't based on any science or any notion of good governance.

I meant that it was a good plan to try using the Rule Making process in light of the fact the emergency use was ultimately dead in the water.

YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:49 pm Yeah I despise those incentives. For those who do the right thing, nothing.