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waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:40 pm With this result the nomination elections are over. The donors will run to Trump.

Kraken wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:12 pm

waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 9:40 pm With this result the nomination elections are over. The donors will run to Trump.

Nah, they'll wait to see what happens in NH. Trump has a plurality there, but not a majority. If Desantis would get the fuck out of the way Haley would have a realistic shot at closing the gap there. Nobody wants to make America Florida.

'Course, she's got no juice after NH. But still. She could bloody his nose.

Gawd, here I am rooting for Haley again.

hepcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:08 pm And let’s not forget that she’s not white enough in their eyes. Something Trump himself had been insinuating with his recent retweets of conspiracy theories that she’s not legally able to be president due to her nationality.

Kraken wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 10:12 pm
Nobody wants to make America Florida.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:17 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:08 pm And let’s not forget that she’s not white enough in their eyes. Something Trump himself had been insinuating with his recent retweets of conspiracy theories that she’s not legally able to be president due to her nationality.

Her nationality? She was born in BFE "Bamberg, South Carolina".

Nikki Haley, the former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations and former governor of South Carolina, was born on Jan. 20, 1972 in Bamberg, South Carolina. Haley is now running to be the Republican nominee for president, and as a natural born citizen, she is eligible to serve in that position, according to constitutional scholars.

As we have written before, the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution grants citizenship to anyone born in the United States. Ratified in 1868, the 14th Amendment states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.”

But posts on social media falsely claim she is ineligible to serve because her parents were not U.S. citizens when she was born. Former President Donald Trump, the front-runner in the Republican presidential race, shared the bogus claim on Jan. 8 on his social media platform, Truth Social, citing an Instagram post from the conservative website Gateway Pundit.

“In @NikkiHaley’s situation, reports indicate that her parents were not U.S. citizens at the time of her birth in 1972. Based on the Constitution as interpreted by @PaulIngrassia, this disqualifies Haley from presidential or vice-presidential candidacy under the 12th Amendment,” the post said.

The Gateway Pundit is referring to Paul Ingrassia, a 2022 Cornell Law School graduate, who wrote on Substack that the U.S. Constitution “absolutely prohibits” Haley from becoming president or vice president. (In his Substack bio, Ingrassia says his Substack is “President Trump’s go-to source on political and social commentary.”)

Haley’s parents were born in the Punjab region of India and immigrated to the U.S., she wrote in her autobiography, “Can’t Is Not an Option: My American Story.” Her father became a U.S. citizen in 1978 and her mother in 2003.

But the citizenship status of Haley’s parents at the time of her birth are irrelevant to her eligibility to serve as president, constitutional experts say. Similar false claims were made about Kamala Harris in 2020, when Joe Biden chose her as his vice presidential running mate. Social media posts claimed Harris could not serve as president, if such a need occurred, because her Indian mother and Jamaican father were not American citizens when she was born.

As we wrote at that time, Josh Chafetz, a professor at Georgetown University Law Center specializing in constitutional law, called those posts “racist nonsense.”

Chafetz told us in an email in 2020: “To serve as president, one must be at least 35 years old, have been a resident of the United States for at least 14 years, and be a ‘natural born Citizen’ (Article II, sec. 1 of the Constitution). Additionally, one cannot have already been president for more than a term and a half (22nd Amendment).”

Chafetz also said the fact that Harris’ parents were immigrants is “wholly irrelevant” to her eligibility to serve as president.

Responding to the claims about Haley by Gateway Pundit, Geoffrey Stone, a constitutional law professor at the University of Chicago, told the Associated Press, “Having been born in South Carolina, [Haley] is clearly a ‘natural born citizen,’ without regard to the fact that her parents were immigrants.”

Stone also told the AP that there are no legitimate arguments that Haley is ineligible to serve as president based on her parents’ citizenship when she was born.

Laurence Tribe, a constitutional law professor emeritus at Harvard Law School, told NBC News that the “birther claims against Nikki Haley are totally baseless as a legal and constitutional matter.”

Carpet_pissr wrote:Also, Floridians. Floridians want to make America Florida.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:17 am

hepcat wrote: ↑Mon Jan 15, 2024 11:08 pm And let’s not forget that she’s not white enough in their eyes. Something Trump himself had been insinuating with his recent retweets of conspiracy theories that she’s not legally able to be president due to her nationality.

Her nationality? She was born in BFE "Bamberg, South Carolina".

Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 16, 2024 11:39 am Haley is a dreamer

“Anyone listening to Nikki ‘Nimrada’ [sic] Haley’s wacked-out speech last night, would think that she won the Iowa Primary. She didn’t,'” Trump posted on Truth Social. “Nikki came in a distant THIRD!”

hepcat wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 5:40 pm Trump is going back to his playbook of emphasizing someone isn't REALLY white by calling them by names that points this out to his maggot audience.

“Anyone listening to Nikki ‘Nimrada’ [sic] Haley’s wacked-out speech last night, would think that she won the Iowa Primary. She didn’t,'” Trump posted on Truth Social. “Nikki came in a distant THIRD!”

He pulled this shit on Obama, now he's pulling it with Haley.

Christ, I can't wait for his diet to help the world out by removing him from the gene pool.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 7:37 pm Medline: "The siblings and children (collectively called first-degree relatives) of long-lived individuals are more likely to remain healthy longer and to live to an older age than their peers"

malchior wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 9:32 am I mean why not...

Former President Donald Trump spoke in Portsmouth, New Hampshire on Wednesday night and informed attendees they are the targets of a de-banking effort.

“De-banking” occurs when a bank refuses to house accounts belonging to people or organizations because the bank deems them to have too much legal or political risk.

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“We did so well and I think we’re gonna have the same result here,” Trump said. “I really do. I think we’re gonna [unintelligible]. But we’re also going to place strong protections to stop banks and regulators from trying to de-bank you from your— you know, your political beliefs, what they do. They wanna de-bank you and we’re going to de-bank.”

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:58 amYes, they're totally going to try and de-bank the average American and not the guy that's been committing banking fraud for decades.

A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES MUST HAVE FULL IMMUNITY, WITHOUT WHICH IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR HIM/HER TO PROPERLY FUNCTION. ANY MISTAKE, EVEN IF WELL INTENDED, WOULD BE MET WITH ALMOST CERTAIN INDICTMENT BY THE OPPOSING PARTY AT TERM END. EVEN EVENTS THAT “CROSS THE LINE” MUST FALL UNDER TOTAL IMMUNITY, OR IT WILL BE YEARS OF TRAUMA TRYING TO DETERMINE GOOD FROM BAD. THERE MUST BE CERTAINTY. EXAMPLE: YOU CAN’T STOP POLICE FROM DOING THE JOB OF STRONG & EFFECTIVE CRIME PREVENTION BECAUSE YOU WANT TO GUARD AGAINST THE OCCASIONAL “ROGUE COP” OR “BAD APPLE.” SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO LIVE WITH “GREAT BUT SLIGHTLY IMPERFECT.” ALL PRESIDENTS MUST HAVE COMPLETE & TOTAL PRESIDENTIAL IMMUNITY, OR THE AUTHORITY & DECISIVENESS OF A PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WILL BE STRIPPED & GONE FOREVER. HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE AN EASY DECISION. GOD BLESS THE SUPREME COURT!

Donald Trump Truth Social 12:59 AM EST 01/18/24

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:58 am
“We did so well and I think we’re gonna have the same result here,” Trump said. “I really do. I think we’re gonna [unintelligible].

Several business executives have noted a theme in their private discussions during the summit: U.S. industry leaders seem overwhelmingly nonplussed with a second Trump term, while foreign chief executives are terrified — particularly of restrictions on immigration and potential global conflicts.

One prominent U.S. business executive, who asked not to be named because his discussions with foreign leaders were private, said some of the fear may be due to a lack of understanding of the checks and balances built into the U.S. government.

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Another U.S. bank CEO privately expressed annoyance with media exaggeration of the threat of a Trump presidency, stressing he's "all bark and no bite." The bank chief also dismissed Trump's refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election as bloviation.

"He's going to win the presidency," the CEO predicted. "Many of his policies were right."

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:12 pm Because why wouldn't a dictator be great for the economy?

Several business executives have noted a theme in their private discussions during the summit: U.S. industry leaders seem overwhelmingly nonplussed with a second Trump term, while foreign chief executives are terrified — particularly of restrictions on immigration and potential global conflicts.

One prominent U.S. business executive, who asked not to be named because his discussions with foreign leaders were private, said some of the fear may be due to a lack of understanding of the checks and balances built into the U.S. government.

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Another U.S. bank CEO privately expressed annoyance with media exaggeration of the threat of a Trump presidency, stressing he's "all bark and no bite." The bank chief also dismissed Trump's refusal to accept the results of the 2020 election as bloviation.

"He's going to win the presidency," the CEO predicted. "Many of his policies were right."

If CEOs support another Trump presidency, it has to be a good thing for the average American, right?

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 3:12 pm

One prominent U.S. business executive, who asked not to be named because his discussions with foreign leaders were private, said some of the fear may be due to a lack of understanding of the checks and balances built into the U.S. government.