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El Guapo wrote:Incidentally, if anyone thinks that I am bitter about the fact that - out of four games played - the only one where Italy fared poorly was the one where I played Italy, you are sorely mistaken. Nope, not aggravated one bit that a power generally considered one of the weakest in the game has done well when played by everyone but me.
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If it’s any comfort, in my experience, Austria is the hardest power to win with but that rule seems to be broken as well.
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Austria:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 3.

England:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.

France:

Germany:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.

Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.

Russia:
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 2.
Russia: A ukr -> mos

Turkey:
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 2.




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Results for Fall, 1905 (Adjustment)
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Order resolution completed on 04-Mar-2008 at 13:35:23 EST
Order Results:

Austria:
Austria: Builds A bud
Austria: Builds F tri
Austria: Builds A vie

England:
England: Builds F edi
England: Builds F lvp

France:
France no longer controls any supply centers, and has been eliminated.

Germany:
Germany: Builds A ber
Germany: Builds A mun

Italy:
Italy: Builds A ven

Russia:
Russia: Removes A fin
Russia: Removes A lvn

Turkey:
Turkey no longer controls any supply centers, and has been eliminated.
Turkey: Removes A arm
Turkey: Removes F bla



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I feel little now that everyone else died. Eeep.
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Sorry for the late reply...I've been out of town since early Saturday morning.
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El Guapo wrote:I take it Turkey decided to simply immolate himself in service of Austria? A bit shady, IMHO.
The only thing that seemed shady about what ezmate did is that it appeared as if he had basically committed suicide to help another player, rather than making every effort to survive.

But what stessier says does change things - more of a negotiating tactic (useful in future games) than giving up on the game.
Here's exactly what I said to Grund:
However, if at any time, you enter ARM or build a fleet in Sev, I will coordinate the intentional and orderly handover of my territories to Austria. Actually, that statement goes for any sabotage on your part. I know that sounds harsh, but I don't know how else I can keep from getting sandwiched.
When Stessier backstabbed me, I was obviously annoyed, but looking at the map, I can definitely see why he did it. At that point, I was hell bent on taking him down.

The only person I could trust was Grund. Of course, if Grund decided to backstab me, too, then the game was over. So, I made the above promise. Obviously Grund forgot about the threat or didn't believe me.

In the end, I lived up to it as viciously as possible - not only giving up my territories (ensuring that it was Stessier, not Grund, that took them), but also supporting the taking of Sev.
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ezmate wrote:The only person I could trust was Grund. Of course, if Grund decided to backstab me, too, then the game was over. So, I made the above promise. Obviously Grund forgot about the threat or didn't believe me.
You didn't keep your word when it came time to support me.

I believed your threat. I just had trouble bringing myself to care. I didn't give the game what it deserved, for which I apologize.
In the end, I lived up to it as viciously as possible - not only giving up my territories (ensuring that it was Stessier, not Grund, that took them), but also supporting the taking of Sev.
Then it must've been bitter wine to seem me simply retreat from them rather than fight back.
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Grundbegriff wrote:
ezmate wrote:The only person I could trust was Grund. Of course, if Grund decided to backstab me, too, then the game was over. So, I made the above promise. Obviously Grund forgot about the threat or didn't believe me.
You didn't keep your word when it came time to support me.
Not sure which move this was...I definitely didn't mean to let you down on anything (until, of course, you entered ARK).
I believed your threat. I just had trouble bringing myself to care. I didn't give the game what it deserved, for which I apologize.
In the end, I lived up to it as viciously as possible - not only giving up my territories (ensuring that it was Stessier, not Grund, that took them), but also supporting the taking of Sev.
Then it must've been bitter wine to seem me simply retreat from them rather than fight back.
Nah...didn't bother me at all. It was definitely a matter of "it's the thought that counts".
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Results for Spring, 1906 (Movement)
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All dislodged units destroyed; advancing to next phase.

Order Results:

Austria:
Austria: F aeg -> gre
Austria: A ank -> con
Austria: A bud -> vie
Austria: F con -> aeg
Austria: A gal Supports A ukr
Austria: A rum -> sev
Austria: A ser -> bud
Austria: A sev -> mos
Austria: F tri Holds
Austria: A ukr Supports A sev -> mos
Austria: A vie -> boh

England:
England: F edi -> cly
England: F iri Supports F lvp -> nao
England: F lvp -> nao
England: F nth -> nwg
Bounced with nao (1 against 1).
England: F stp/nc Holds
England: F swe -> nwy

Germany:
Germany: F bal Convoys A den -> lvn
Germany: A ber -> sil
Germany: A den -> lvn
Convoy path taken: den→bal→lvn.
Germany: F eng -> mao
Bounced with spa (1 against 1).
Germany: F kie -> hol
Germany: A mun -> tyr
Germany: A par -> gas
Bounced with mar (1 against 1).
Germany: A ruh -> bur
Germany: A war Holds

Italy:
The Fleet in North Atlantic Ocean cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
Italy: F lyo -> spa/sc
Italy: A mar -> gas
Bounced with par (1 against 1).
Italy: F nao -> nwg
Bounced with nth (1 against 1).
Dislodged from lvp (2 against 1).

Italy: F spa/sc -> mao
Italy: F tys Holds
Italy: A ven Holds
Italy: F wes Supports F spa/sc -> mao

Russia:

The Army in Moscow cannot retreat; unit destroyed.
Russia: A mos Holds
Dislodged from sev (2 against 1).


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:?: I know I was late. Who else are we awaiting?
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I decided to invade Switzerland, it might be holding up the update.
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Lordnine wrote:I decided to invade Switzerland, it might be holding up the update.
Well I probably did not help by ordering the North Sea to Picardy move that El Guapo keeps suggesting. :wink:
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Picardy deserves it, so did Switzerland.
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Sorry, between time change and an irritable baby, I just plain forgot about the orders.

Besides, we all know Austin has never updated the game on a Sunday. :P
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And I don't have time this morning either. I have all the orders and will get to it asap. ;)
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I wonder if Austin is ever going to update this game?



What? It worked in the other one. :wink:
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Remus West wrote:I wonder if Austin is ever going to update this game?



What? It worked in the other one. :wink:
My file is on my other computer at work. :doh: And I haven't uploaded for a few turns. :doh: So, not happening tonight. :doh: :P
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:lol:
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Remus West wrote:
Lordnine wrote:I decided to invade Switzerland, it might be holding up the update.
Well I probably did not help by ordering the North Sea to Picardy move that El Guapo keeps suggesting. :wink:
I'm glad that someone has finally had the cajones to try this under-utilized maneuver.
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El Guapo wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Lordnine wrote:I decided to invade Switzerland, it might be holding up the update.
Well I probably did not help by ordering the North Sea to Picardy move that El Guapo keeps suggesting. :wink:
I'm glad that someone has finally had the cajones to try this under-utilized maneuver.
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Here we go.

Results for Fall, 1906 (Movement)
General Notices:
Order resolution completed on 11-Mar-2008 at 15:40:11 EST
Order Results:
Austria:
Austria: F aeg Holds
Austria: A boh -> mun
Bounced with sil (1 against 1).
Austria: A bud -> tri
Austria: A con -> bul
Austria: A gal -> sil
Bounced with war (1 against 1).
Austria: F gre Holds
Austria: A mos Supports A ukr -> war
Austria: A sev Supports A mos
Austria: F tri -> alb
Austria: A ukr -> war
Austria: A vie Supports A bud -> tri
England:
England: F cly -> nao
Failed because England: F nao -> mao failed.
England: F iri Supports F nao -> mao
England: F nao -> mao
Bounced with spa (2 against 1).
England: F nth -> eng
Failed because Germany: F eng -> bre failed.
England: F nwy Supports F stp/nc
England: F stp/nc Supports F nwy
Germany:
Germany: F bal Convoys A lvn -> kie
Germany: A bur Supports A par -> gas
Germany: F eng -> bre
Bounced with mao (1 against 1).
Germany: F hol -> bel
Germany: A lvn -> kie
Convoy path taken: lvn→bal→kie.
Germany: A par -> gas
Germany: A sil -> mun
Bounced with boh (1 against 1).
Germany: A tyr -> pie
Germany: A war -> sil
Bounced with gal (1 against 1).
Dislodged from ukr (2 against 1).
Italy:
Italy: A mar Holds
Italy: F mao -> bre
Bounced with eng (1 against 1).
Italy: F spa/sc -> mao
Bounced with nao (1 against 1).
Italy: F tys -> lyo
Italy: A ven Holds
Italy: F wes Supports F spa/sc -> mao
Russia:

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Bring 'em on, I'd prefer a straight fight to all this sneaking around.
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:lol:

You've hidden that opinion so well up to now... :wink:
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I've just been looking for a chance to use that quote.
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A war retreats to pru
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Can someone explain convoys again? Does the transported unit have to land in an empty space, or can it be used as an attack?

So for a stupid example: say there is an A in Bul. Could I transport an A to Bul and have it attack with any support I could muster? Or could it only be transported to Bul if Bul was unoccupied?

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stessier wrote:Can someone explain convoys again? Does the transported unit have to land in an empty space, or can it be used as an attack?

So for a stupid example: say there is an A in Bul. Could I transport an A to Bul and have it attack with any support I could muster? Or could it only be transported to Bul if Bul was unoccupied?

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I don't see why it couldn't be an attack. You can even support it if you have a unit adjacent to the space being moved into who is willing.
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Order Results:
Austria:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 2.

Germany:
Supply centers were lost. Units that must be removed: 1.
Germany: A war -> pru

Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
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A Convoy acts as any other move. If you get in then you get in. If you fail to get in then you end up where you started.

For example:
A Lon -> Nwy
F Nth C A Lon -> Nwy
F Nwy H

The Army in London would bounce right back to London.
Now if Russia were the Fleet in Nwy and I added F Nwg S A Lon Nwy then the Army would dislodge the Fleet in Norway and take the province itself. (You can not dislodge yourself so you have to be attacking a different country).
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Also note, a Fleet being attacked does NOT disrupt the convoy unless it is dislodged. (Contrast to support being cut if attacked into)
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Austin wrote:Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
Now that is just plain misleading. I went back looking at the board trying to figure where he gained a SC. It should read Fleet blown to itty bitty pieces at the bottom of the North Atlantic. Rebuild available 1. :twisted:
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Remus West wrote:
Austin wrote:Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
Now that is just plain misleading. I went back looking at the board trying to figure where he gained a SC. It should read Fleet blown to itty bitty pieces at the bottom of the North Atlantic. Rebuild available 1. :twisted:
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Lordnine wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Austin wrote:Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
Now that is just plain misleading. I went back looking at the board trying to figure where he gained a SC. It should read Fleet blown to itty bitty pieces at the bottom of the North Atlantic. Rebuild available 1. :twisted:
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You were the one that told me your ambassador came with a full military escort.
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Remus West wrote:
Lordnine wrote:
Remus West wrote:
Austin wrote:Italy:
Supply centers were gained. Units that may be built: 1.
Now that is just plain misleading. I went back looking at the board trying to figure where he gained a SC. It should read Fleet blown to itty bitty pieces at the bottom of the North Atlantic. Rebuild available 1. :twisted:
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You were the one that told me your ambassador came with a full military escort.
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Lordnine wrote:Pure slander!

My diplomat brought cupcakes.
They didn't have any sprinkles on them. We clearly requested sprinkles. :x
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So does this mean we are waiting for Germany again?
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stessier wrote:So does this mean we are waiting for Germany again?
Certainly not waiting on build orders from me just now.
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I think we're waiting on our illustrious GM to quit sniffing the varnish and update the game.
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Bakhtosh wrote:I think we're waiting on our illustrious GM to quit sniffing the varnish and update the game.
I told you in chat, after lunch and if the boards behave. Fish tacos consumed and boards in order jDip is open. So Germany's order was disband all?
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Bakhtosh wrote:I think we're waiting on our illustrious GM to quit sniffing the varnish and update the game.
Ah, my apologies. I should have guessed. :evil:

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