BSG IV -Revhempus Smoked -Humans win.

[Unagi]

redrun went from totally disengaged to wholly enthralled; that's classic Werewolf behavior, though in this instance it turns out to have been a coincidence. My accusation was made in good faith, though, on the basis that I didn't want to believe RevHempus, as a Werewolf, would play this way (by abandoning the game). I still don't want to believe that.

However, I accuse Unagi not on the basis of my wanting not to accuse the Rev, but on the basis that Unagi's goodguy act, which was already creeping me out (as noted in the thread) just jumped the shark in that last post.

Amazing Grund .

My 'jump the shark' was essentially the blue text from your above post.

I got some sorry-ass, bad news.

Revhelpus is indeed playing this way.

Alas - my death will likely be the only way to 'test this', and that will be that. Game Over.

[purge]

This is freakin' ridiculous.

We've just been remucided.

Bahktosh, you are either short-sighted or don't understand my concern.

Let's go through this slowly before you lose the game on a coin toss.

1) Is Purge a Specialist? - YES
2) Can Purge be 10? - YES
3) Have you found 7 yet? - NO
4) Can Purge be 7? - NO
5) Has Purge been proven 10? NO, because I'm NOT 10 to my knowledge.
6) If there is a vote for me tomorrow and tonight I am not converted, you will be killing the last human suspect, the ONLY one who can't be one of your two targets.

Good planning, there.

I bet if 10 is found he and 7 are rubbing their hands together in anticipation of the win, Rev playing quiet and Unagi winning yet ANOTHER game. Unless somehow we've missed something with the "provens", we've got both wolves in this barrel. We've managed to miss 2 targets with one fell swoop. The "proven's" should come forward with a quote that exonerates them from suspicion so it's here, front and frakkin' centre.

Grund, I told you that I'd self-vote tomorrow, but since majority will be 3 and there will be potentially a 10 and 7 running around, that action will end the game. Any vote from myself, Unagi and Rev can't be trusted.

People, don't be stupid with your actions tomorrow. Would I trust me tomorrow? NO. Because if 10 hasn't been found, I'll be the last person he hasn't scanned that's worth scanning. That's why I'm telling you this now: If you're going to test someone, test me last. You have a 1/3 chance of finding a cylon chip within me, and a 2/3 for the other two candidates.

Have at 'er.

[Unagi]

There is clearly no way I can point to reasons why Rev is guilty.

All I have is:
He's managed to chime in right after key moments and hasn't really played at all in-between.

So, you all are now presented with the choice I had.

a) Vote to protect yourself from the loss against a player that has played like Rev has.
b) Vote to protect yourself from the loss against a player that has played like I have.

I am going to be plain about this.

I made the choice of "b)".
I can't blame any of you for making the same move tomorrow - and deciding you would rather lose to a "Revhemp play" than to me totally screwing with your head and 'convincing you' to vote the other way.

As a Cylon: I could have totally let redrun taken the fall today, if I had reluctantly agreed with him - and voted for Revhempus. I didn't. Instead I apparently positioned myself to look totally guilty after his lynch and then need to convince you all to lynch the guy that I said I was willing to just give a break too.

That is not how I would have played it.

[Bakhtosh]

First, I said if it lands on its edge, I'll vote Purge. Start flipping a coin now. Let me know when it lands on its edge m'kay? I don't expect to be hearing from you for a while.

Second, do you have definative proof that Unagi or Rev is the Seven? Do you have a theory on how to tell that's better than a coin flip? If Unagi is the cylon, he's played a masterful game to live this long. If Rev is the cylon, well...I may have to start seriously considering lynching the quiet over other more qualified candidates.

[Unagi]

Bahktosh, you are either short-sighted or don't understand my concern.

Let's go through this slowly before you lose the game on a coin toss.

1) Is Purge a Specialist? - YES
2) Can Purge be 10? - YES
3) Have you found 7 yet? - NO
4) Can Purge be 7? - NO
5) Has Purge been proven 10? NO, because I'm NOT 10 to my knowledge.
6) If there is a vote for me tomorrow and tonight I am not converted, you will be killing the last human suspect, the ONLY one who can't be one of your two targets.

Good planning, there.

Relax man, I think he was sorta joking about the purge vote.

If you are anything - it's #10, and there is no need to find #10 until we find #7.
#7 MUST BE Revhempus or Unagi , and I think Bakhtosh knows this.

[Unagi]

People, don't be stupid with your actions tomorrow. Would I trust me tomorrow? NO. Because if 10 hasn't been found, I'll be the last person he hasn't scanned that's worth scanning. That's why I'm telling you this now: If you're going to test someone, test me last. You have a 1/3 chance of finding a cylon chip within me, and a 2/3 for the other two candidates.

Have at 'er.

I could still be #10, for all I know, but I haven't been converted.

Tomorrow we NEED to kill Revhempus, as I know for a FACT that he is #7.
*(yes, you all don't know this.)

If the game doesn't end. It will be because #10 was converted. And that could then be 'me' or 'purge'.

Tomorrow we need to pick Me or Rev. No one else should be up for the vote.

[Unagi]

If Unagi is the cylon, he's played a masterful game to live this long. If Rev is the cylon, well...I may have to start seriously considering lynching the quiet over other more qualified candidates.

And hence, we are screwed.
The only way this game may not be over is if #10 is already dead.

I am thinking that human instinct will likely make you (Bakh), purge and mipe all decide to just vote me dead tomorrow.

Sadly, I think I would too if I were in your shoes, so I have trouble trying to tell you why you shouldn't.

All I can really offer is this:
Think of how much of a better position I would have been in, if I had urged you all to kill Revhemp today instead of redrun.

Not just in the "wouldn't it have looked better" sense, but in the "wouldn't I have had a MUCH better person to transfer the attention to."

[Unagi]

No one will want to risk that I am playing you all for fools, so I will likely be the lynch vote tomorrow. And then it will be all over.

You type that now, in that way, so that you can savor it now and later.

Not true. I type that now because I know that this is what is in everyone's head. It's what made me want to lynch redrun. I had a choice...

Lose to a person that isn't playing.
Lose to a person that is trying to manipulate everyone into a path of doom and death.

There is no 'good feeling' that one gets from the former and I realize that and speak to it.
That doesn't make me #7, that just means I am still here and playing.

I say it knowing full well that saying it makes me seem only more like "a person that is trying to manipulate everyone into a path of doom and death" - I say it none-the-less, as I have no other freaking leg to stand on Grund.

[Unagi]

If Unagi is the cylon, he's played a masterful game to live this long.

Hell.

• I'm a citizen with no way to prove a thing
• Athena died on the night I was to be scanned
• I was a very successful SIX in the last BSG game
• Everyone always holds me in deep skepticism it would seem
• Oh yeah, and I actually play the game

"To live this long", Cylon or NOT...


If I can get you guys to lynch Revhempus, I would like to think my cylon status is totally irrelevant to my masterful game.

i.e. Cylon or not - I've been dodging being lynched this whole game, and NOW it's critical to our winning.

I am NOT a cylon.

[purge]

Sorry bahk, I missed the edge part... it was early.

We cannot lose tomorrow if 10 has been found ALREADY. (unless we've missed something with the "provens")

Between Rev and Unagi, they are the only unknowns. That reduces their count with the next lynch and the leverage they'd need to win.

10 WILL be active tomorrow, and I have not been scanned & converted, so tomorrow is a 50/50 chance for both sides.

Rev or Unagi is 7; if the other is 10 then we're OK. If not, we lose the game.

The next two days have to be those two because if we kill cylon then we'll be sitting with an unknown as to role. I would be the next night, although I haven't played the numbers to see how many more days we have left.

Oh, the pile of corpses is building up, we ran out of room in the morgue three days ago.

[Unagi]

while I agree that I could be 10, I don't see how we are to presume you are not 10. Converted or not.

[Grundbegriff]

while I agree that I could be 10, I don't see how we are to presume you are not 10. Converted or not.

purge is saying we know purge is not #7. He's right about that; there's no way he could be #7, and finding #7 is a higher priority than finding #10 (who may not even be alive, much less active).

[Grundbegriff]

Chaosraven announced the intention to self-protect last night. Chaosraven is now dead, so two things must've happened:

(a) Chaosraven must've been bluffing about self-protection; he rolled the dice that his bluff would work and went for a scan instead.

AND

(b) #7 (perhaps in cahoots with #10) decided that the risk of Chaosraven's scan was so high that it was worth attacking him just in case he was bluffing, even though the cost of being wrong about the bluff would be a deathless night.

Why would the Cylon be so worried about Chaosraven's scan that taking a shot at a supposedly-self-protecting Athena seemed worthwhile?

Whom was Chaosraven expected to scan, if he chose to scan?....

[Lassr]

0710

On the way to roll call Grundbegriff stumbles upon the body of Bakhtosh. He had been shot with his own firearm. “Frak!” He steps over the body and continues his walk. He arrives a few minutes late. “I found Bakhtosh, he was shot to death.” He plops down hard into a chair. “Guess you know what we must do.”


Tory Foster -Who will you talk to?

Who will be executed?

You have 12 hours.

[Grundbegriff]

0710

On the way to roll call Grundbegriff stumbles upon the body of Bakhtosh. He had been shot with his own firearm. “Frak!” He steps over the body and continues his walk. He arrives a few minutes late. “I found Bakhtosh, he was shot to death.” He plops down hard into a chair. “Guess you know what we must do.”


Tory Foster -Who will you talk to?

Who will be executed?

You have 12 hours.

That's interesting. His claim that he would live through the night-- his hint that he would self-protect-- was taken (correctly, it seems) as a bluff.

That's twice that the Cylons have called a bluff.

So who's alive? Let's see....

[Lassr]

Unagi ------------------
Grundbegriff ------------------
RevHempus ------------------
mipe ------------------
purge ------------------
---
---
---
---

Majority is 3

[Grundbegriff]

• Grundbegriff: Specialist2, confirmed human, cannot be 10
• mipe: Citizen1, confirmed human, cannot be 10
• purge: Specialist3, species unknown, could be 10
• RevHempus71: role unknown, species unknown, could be 7, could be 10
• Unagi: role unknown, species unknown, could be 7, could be 10

We're looking for #7. Three votes for a kill. Possible targets are RevHempus71 and Unagi. One of the two must die today. If there's no 10, then killing 7 wins the game. Therefore, the next deaths must be Unagi and RevHempus in some order. There's no disputing this; nothing else makes sense.

Worst case scenario: 2 cylons among 5 players:

Human Human Human Cylon Cylon:

>>>>>Today: kill a human = cylon victory

Better case scenario: 1 cylon among 5 players:

Human Human Human Human Cylon:
>>>>>Today: kill a human; tonight: slaughter a human
>>>>>Tomorrow: Human Human Cylon
>>>>>Tomorrow: Kill a Cylon = human victory

Analysis:

As you can see, it comes down to this: If there's only one Cylon, then by killing Unagi and RevHempus, the humans have won.

If there are two Cylons, then we must hit one today or the Cylons have won.

Let's hear the arguments for killing Unagi first and for killing RevHempus first.

[Unagi]

while I agree that I could be 10, I don't see how we are to presume you are not 10. Converted or not.

purge is saying we know purge is not #7. He's right about that; there's no way he could be #7, and finding #7 is a higher priority than finding #10 (who may not even be alive, much less active).

Yeah, we actually had discussed all that before though... and I've said as much a couple times. Why does this point need to be driven home so hard at this point.

His post seemed to imply that there was some way he was not #10, because he was not yet converted, or something to that effect.

[Grundbegriff]

His post seemed to imply that there was some way he was not #10, because he was not yet converted, or something to that effect.

He's claiming as much. But then, so are you.

Why is it ok for you to deny that you're 10, but not for purge to deny that he's 10?

That makes you seem awfully sevenish.

[Unagi]

Let's hear the arguments for killing Unagi first and for killing RevHempus first.

I'm not going to go back and forth a lot with this. The arguments can be made by you guys.

My position now has 100% view on this, and there is no question Revhempus is #7, and he's been playing the silent wolf the whole game.


Why test Revhempus first - from Your point of view?

I can only offer this:
Why Not Me:
If I am #7, then I knew that Sean was Cavil and Austin was #6 the whole time.
I would NOT have cast the final vote on Sean in the manner I did with no knowledge of his actual presense, etc.
I would also likely not have pointed out so early that I thought Austin's position on my 'Scoop Code' initiall comment was the way a wolf would have answered. (I already linked to that earlier)
I would not have started the game trying to get scanned and also trying to get them to waste a Baltar scan (or at least create so much 'Baltar' noise.)

Why lynch Rev first:Not much I can really comment on.
He has chimed in at key moments and then re-submerged.
What else is there to tell.

You ask who would gain from killing Athena the night she was killed. Frankly - the cylons would - no matter WHO he was scanning next. From my position, it's clear that he was killed so that I couldn't join the ranks of 'trusted' (I do believe mathmatically it would have been an auto-win if I had been). From your perspective - I suppose it also could look like I didn't want to be scanned and join the ranks of 'dead cylons'. Their both equally valid.

How about I reverse the question too.

Why Lynch Unagi first:
He's played a masterful game and you don't want to lose another game to a 'wolf' Unagi. It's annoying.
He's said just about everything you guys have said - often Before you guys have (see: Jump the Shark / Leaning redrun)
He's being Grund's little puppy.

Why Not Lynch Rev first:
I just don't like to think that Rev would play silent wolf. period.

[Unagi]

His post seemed to imply that there was some way he was not #10, because he was not yet converted, or something to that effect.

He's claiming as much. But then, so are you.

Why is it ok for you to deny that you're 10, but not for purge to deny that he's 10?

That makes you seem awfully sevenish.

Ahh, that's not the problem I had with it Grund.

Rev or Unagi is 7; if the other is 10 then we're OK. If not, we lose the game.

You need to understand, or at least consider for a moment here Grund that I am NOT #7.
I know Rev to be #7 - and this line from purge has me worried that he's perhaps a converted #10. If we, (and I hope we do) lynch Rev - and he turns up Cylon (and he will) - and this game doesn't end right there... I will be, again, in the sole position to know why - it would be that Purge is a converted #10.

Yes, yes - I realize it's just purge claiming he isn't a converted #10, it just seemed like a strange time (in the game) to start talking about that. Didn't it? No?


How about this part.
The part where he says this:

We cannot lose tomorrow if 10 has been found ALREADY.

Even I didn't feel like working that math out.
But then are we shocked to read the part where he says this:

I haven't played the numbers to see how many more days we have left.

Uh, that's the much more simple math to do than the 'If Then Else #10 Converted' logic that started his post.

I only 'harp' on this because - if I am lynched it's Game Over - good guys lose. (yes, I too hate it when people say that shit, but I am not trying to scare you into this vote, I am explaining my efforts here)
If Rev is lynched and it's Not game over - it's because Purge is indeed a converted #10.

Please read those two lines and understand them. All of you. (I suppose I am talking to mipe there).

Alas, the way this is going - we will probably shortly hear from Rev, and you'll look at his words - find all mine way more 'troubling' / 'creepy', etc. - and lynch me dead.

You should give this some thought Grund. I know that you normally don't react well to 'challenges' from me (Legion....) but, I do ask you to maybe take a little risk here - and actually go with the Lynch Rev test first. You will be happy you did - I guarantee you that.

[Unagi]

By the way, as I said - there is no danger or harm in me placing my vote - so here we have it.

 Revhempus 
 

[Grundbegriff]

Yes, yes - I realize it's just purge claiming he isn't a converted #10, it just seemed like a strange time (in the game) to start talking about that. Didn't it? No?

No. Not to someone who has been in PM contact with him throughout the game.

[Unagi]

Yes, yes - I realize it's just purge claiming he isn't a converted #10, it just seemed like a strange time (in the game) to start talking about that. Didn't it? No?

No. Not to someone who has been in PM contact with him throughout the game.

So, that turns into a 'Yes' if one wasn't in PM contact then, right?

(I presume you are saying he's been talking like that all game with you, and you are not saying that his ability to talk on the forum is proof that he isn't converted, as I think it was said that he would still be allowed to...)

In any case, I am not trying to charge Purge with "converted #10".

I am just saying that nothing from my chair says that's impossible.

[Grundbegriff]

Yes, yes - I realize it's just purge claiming he isn't a converted #10, it just seemed like a strange time (in the game) to start talking about that. Didn't it? No?

No. Not to someone who has been in PM contact with him throughout the game.

So, that turns into a 'Yes' if one wasn't in PM contact then, right?

(I presume you are saying he's been talking like that all game with you, and you are not saying that his ability to talk on the forum is proof that he isn't converted, as I think it was said that he would still be allowed to...)

In any case, I am not trying to charge Purge with "converted #10".

I am just saying that nothing from my chair says that's impossible.

I don't think we have any real point of disagreement here. I've been giving him a hard time over it since my real entry into the game.

Look, I'd like to hear from RevHempus, purge, and mipe. Would any of you good people happen to be able to spare a moment to comment on the Unagi xor RevHempus deathwatch?

[purge]

I'd like to see Unagi and Rev's history on the votes against Austin and Sean.

One of them was seven, and the other is 10 (or 10 was accidentally killed at night and not identified by apollo).

I was not converted last night, which means I would have had to have been scanned either last night, some previous night, or 10 was found and scanning was pointless.

I don't have time until the morning, but I *would* like to put this out there: Unagi knows that 3 is majority, and has already cast his vote knowing full well that two cylons aren't going to pile on it.

I could not make the same guarantee, and given CR's next scan was him, I suspect it is the reason they risked hunting him down that night.

[purge]

Unagi on the other hand continues to make me nervous. He has been playing a tightrope game of placing suspicion and then jumping to the other side to defend the individual (happened with Remus, and Me). It could be he is just searching for the cylons but I have just gotten the feeling he has been trying to drape himself in innocence through out the game. His sean statements is an example and if I am lynched he could use that as evidence of being human.

First, yes - I have been placing suspicions. Primarily on stessier and Bakhtosh.

I have/had some on you - but it's subsided to some degree (mostly due to the aggressive moves I saw being put on you for the code).
I have some in reserve for Purge, but I have been clear where that lies with me (wait for now)
Redrun - who knows.

I am searching for cylons.

Drapping myself in innocence... I like that. OK - I am not sure how I am doing that, but I'd like to think I am mearly drapped in innocence, not actually doing the drapping.

What are my "Sean statements"? You mean back when I remarked how it's going to look good if he comes up a Cylon? Whatever - it struck me that it would... It also struck me that it would haunt me the whole game.

interesting read.

[purge]

We do need to work on this lynch.

Would the people without a vote please place one.

I am willing to move my vote to 2 other people (one of which has votes the other does not). I'd rather not do it all at the very last minute....

So, let's go people.

No Votes:
Grundbegriff
RevHempus
Remus West
Purge

Looking for a night kill.

[purge]

Scoop20906 ------------------ Grundbegriff
Unagi ------------------ scoop
Chaosraven ------------------ scoop
Grundbegriff ------------------
RevHempus ------------------
stessier ------------------ purge
Remus West ------------------
redrun ------------------ stessier
mipe ------------------ scoop
Bakhtosh ------------------ scoop
purge ------------------
kraegor ------------------
------------------
Scoop20906 --- 4
stessier --- 1
purge --- 1
Grundbegriff --- 1

Majority is 7

This was the count. Notice the suspects and how Unagi has no problems adding to any of the other just to keep the game moving forward.

[purge]

My feelings so far on the players:

Scoop20906: Earlier he was pinging my radar a bit, his accusation on me seemed like the move of a cylon, but it also seemed a little like 'normal Scoop', so I wasn't really sure. His deep desire to get data on if Apollo is still alive does have 'Good Guy' reasons, but there are also a ton of 'Cylon' / #7 reasons for a player to want to get it established if Apollo is still alive or not. So, he's up there on my list, a bit.

Chaosraven: For this list - I am going with the thought that he is Athena...

Grundbegriff: Grund has never played (from my perspective) a game in this style. He's been quiet before - but it normally comes with a reason (grading papers, giving exams, etc.) and is soon followed up by some major contributions and analysis. This game he's been chiming in, but just making little comments. If one were to go simply by 'change in style', Grund would be a Huge Target. Strangely, I just don't see him playing 'cylon' this way, but then again - it's perfectly within his rights to play it that way. In any case, Grund has my and probably everyone's respect in these games (he gives it his all) but I don't want to just let that turn into Carte Blanche in game-behaviour changes. So, I am not sure how to act on him. The main point right now is that he was scanned by Chaos, and this list is being built with the idea that Chaos can be trusted. Actually, he could really be Baltar - now that I think about it.

Semaj: (I thought his first night talk of 'giving me nightmares' was a hint that he was Baltar) He's dead.

Sean: Dead Cylon - and I killed him !!!

RevHempus: I'm leaning 'good guy'. He could be anything, but if he metas that he probably wont be around the whole game and turns up Wolf - that's on his conscience.

Mr. Bubbles: Dead. Not sure what got him killed. They may have thought this was him saying he was Athena or something, but it's a bit of a stretch.

Austin: Soon dead - good scan too, he was running under my radar really.

stessier: Very active, and has had me on his list the whole game for any reason he can muster. Actually. he has thrown a lot of accusations around, and frankly - that really is not normal stessier behaviour. I actually plan to look at his posts with greater scrutiny over the next day or so to see if I can find anything specific... but mostly it's just been his little accusations that seem out of character for him. I could see Sean being Cavil, Austin being Six, and stessier being #7. Starting a 'poke the silent' on someone you hope will eventually chime in, that would likely have cleared Sean for a day or so - had Sean actually chimed in. Stessier monitoring the Sean vote and calling me on my killing vote is one thing that has me thinking he may be Good... but stessier plays Evil like that... stessier looks for moves, however disabling, that would thrust him into a trusted state (Chaos too, I think.)

Remus West: Special

redrun: Just seems really quiet for a new guy. Not sure if that's because he's just not posting much (it's just his style), or if he's trying to be real careful to not make waves. If he's Bad, he's played a pretty good game.

mipe: Another reason that Chaos is likely Athena. (since there is some concern that Chaos is Six and gave us Cavil for cover...) Since he gave us "SIX", that means that if we ever hear from Lassr that "we've been betrayed", well - then we would know that Chaos was a liar. Oh, and I think that mipe is likely Baltar, but who knows/cares at this point.

Bakhtosh: I think this is the first game where Bakhtosh hasn't listed me as one of his suspects throughout the game. Not sure what to make of that. His assessment of Remus' reaction to a missing Sean was something that caught my eye a little (I thought it seemed like he was projecting.)

purge: Way too quiet. If I were a bad cylon I would be thinking he's powered. Since I am human, I worry he is a cylon. He'll get my vote one of these days, unless he's got some glorious alibi, like being Special.

kraegor: Our presumptive shooter

The second green text : it should be noted that this was posted nearly an hour after he was reported to be killed by Kraegor.

The first green text? Look at how he's giving himself credit. Not: "we were lucky on that", but "lookie... I'm good, man!"

He's now harping on his Sean win. it's not like we don't sacrifice our own; this is a golden ticket. I'm still scanning back for the Sean vote; I'd like to revisit how that went down.

[purge]

Final Vote History on Monday

• stessier acc Sean(1)
• Austin acc Sean(2)
  Scoop20906 acc Unagi(1)
  Scoop20906 wd Unagi(0)
• Kraegor acc RevHempus71(1)
• mipe acc stessier(1)
  Scoop20906 acc stessier(2)
• Bakhtosh acc redrun(1)
• Remus West acc Sean(3)
  Scoop20906 wd stessier(1)
• Scoop20906 acc Sean(4)
• Grundbegriff acc Sean(5)
• redrun acc Sean(6)
• Mr Bubbles acc Sean(7)
• Unagi acc Sean(8)

Votes required = 8

Against Sean(8): stessier, Austin, Remus West, Scoop20906, Grundbegriff, redrun, Mr Bubbles, Unagi
Against RevHempus71(1): Kraegor
Against stessier(1): mipe
Against redrun(1): Bakhtosh

No Votes: Chaosraven, purge, RevHempus71, Sean

ok, wow that was fast. I was getting a new computer at work this morning. So I'll do the write up and post it in a few minutes.

Unagi "did that" but Austin was also in on it. This was a strategy, methinks.

[purge]

First off, unless edits are O.k. this game then Unagi's initial vote should have been left there. Regret it or not it was posted.

We came to the same conclusion.


Edits of the type I made, removing a vote, should NEVER be allowed (even in a game where there is no explicite edit rule).

I honestly thought I was so fast (was about 15 seconds, I thought) that my post wasn't even 'registered' by anyone yet...

... and he didn't even mean it. He saw the count, and tried to withdraw.

[purge]

I still haven't had time to read the thread, so I'm voting from the hip. I gather from the War of the Roses thread and from a brief clickthrough of this thread that Sean is MIA. I think shaving off the deadweight is as good a use of the first day's vote as any other, so I'll vote for the silent one:
 Sean 
 

I agree.
edit: I nearly killed him

... and didn't want to.

[purge]

After going through this stuff, Unagi is 7. I don't think there is any question of it.

I'm not 10, so I'd suspect Rev as being 10. Let's find out if killing 7 ends the game; they may have killed their only scan. If someone cares to sift through all the "who's 10" crap, who injected that fear and kept that drum beating?

Chasing our tails when we have the villain right where he deserves to be: at the business end of a barrel. He was next in line for CR's scan, so they risked getting him. They would have known if they accidentally killed 10 if Cavil was still around; if not then they were firing blind or scanning first and hoping they hadn't already killed the last chip.

As to Rev? He's the next one on the chopping block (as Unagi may be 10 and then we still have one more to remove).

Either way we have our Cylon:  Unagi 
 

[purge]

Right now we have Unagi casting first vote right away on a day with such low standards.

I've put my vote on Unagi; I would urge the "Provens" to hold off on voting until Rev has a chance to pipe up. I'm not interested in railroading anyone until we have a clear consensus.

[purge]

Lastly, I was up early so in my mind, right now, this all makes sense. If I've used role names or words-n-shtuff wrong, it could be the dry, tired eyes doing it.

Hold off on lynching until morning, please.

[mipe]

I'm now making either a win move, or a move which will lead us all to doom... Or maybe a move that leads me potentially to doom, and then I would curse my bad choice.. :/ GAHHH!!!

 mipe, 
 
The great player who said his role in pretty much first pages, but no, nobody listens to anything, GAHHHH!!!

[mipe]

oh wait! I got an idea!

 Withdraw Mipe 
 
for now...

[Unagi]

The second green text : it should be noted that this was posted nearly an hour after he was reported to be killed by Kraegor.

Wow, ever think I started making that large post and took a while getting links, etc. And what is funny is just the level of this accusation alone. It makes me feel like you are slinging mud at me... "Look how he posted with out being caught up!!" That is something only someone assigned the role of cylon would do? Seriously?

The first green text? Look at how he's giving himself credit. Not: "we were lucky on that", but "lookie... I'm good, man!"

And you don't think everyone else that read that didn't realize I was pretty much saying, 'wow, what dumb luck'. You want people to think I was actually trying to establish Credit for the Kill ? Hello? were you there? did you see how that went down. Do you really think I was trying to get credit for the kill. If anything, I was trying to distance myself from the credit, it was a sarcastic addition to my list. You seriously don't see that?

I am totally starting to think that I am talking to the converted #10 for sure here Purge. You started you defense of that way early I think. If not, you are simply blowing it, and the above is an example of how wrong minded your charge is.

Mipe, Grund, You guys are probably my only hope. We're screwed here.

One last time. I am a miss.
Revhemp is #7

[Grundbegriff]

mipe: remind me not to include you in future games, and not to join in any games in which you've been accepted.