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Now that I am driving again and it is fairly consistently warm, I have abandoned Smoove and Max. I now shop at big box stores without a mask. Mask wearing is now limited to longer exposure spots without crazy high ceilings and good ventilation. I'll still be seeking a 2nd bivalent booster when my infliximab restarts next month.
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Let's check in with China:
China is facing a new wave of Covid-19 infections that could see as many as 65 million cases per week by the end of June. This alarming prediction was made by respiratory disease specialist Zhong Nanshan at a biotech conference in Guangzhou. Zhong’s estimate provides a rare glimpse into the potential impact of the latest omicron variant, XBB, which has been fueling a resurgence in cases across China since late April.

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Zhong’s estimate suggests that this latest wave of infections will be more muted compared to the previous wave that hit China late last year and into January. At that time, a different omicron sublineage likely infected 37 million people every day, overwhelming hospitals and crematoriums and causing residents to scramble for limited supplies of fever medicine.

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As China prepares for this new wave of infections, it remains to be seen how effective these new vaccines will be in curbing the spread of XBB. With millions of cases expected each week, it is clear that the fight against Covid-19 is far from over.
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In my Jury Duty statement, it read masks were mandatory and will be provided. They included one in a bag when you walked in the door. I was the only person in the entire courthouse, judge and officers inclusive, wearing a mask. So yeah, respect for the courts.
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Only a few more hours to live:



Heh, people never forget, this guy is the one getting killed on twitter now.
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Grifman wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:00 pm Only a few more hours to live:



Heh, people never forget, this guy is the one getting killed on twitter now.
this is why one should at least duplicate the tweets' content in their post
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hitbyambulance wrote: Tue May 23, 2023 12:04 pm
Grifman wrote: Mon May 22, 2023 7:00 pm Only a few more hours to live:



Heh, people never forget, this guy is the one getting killed on twitter now.
this is why one should at least duplicate the tweets' content in their post
Some dude in May 2021 claiming to have experts saying that everyone that got jabbed would die within 2 years, no possibility of a 'cure.'
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Glad someone is still out there speaking the truth:
While society yawns, impatient to move on from the COVID-19 pandemic, Americans still play disability roulette. About 1 in 10 of the 110,000 people who catch COVID this week in the United States, many for a second or third time, will be left lastingly ill. Even some vaccinated people; even some young, previously healthy people, after only mild cases.

No longer a mass death event, COVID-19 is an ongoing mass disability event. Every seven days, 25,000 more people join the 10 million in our country suffering memory loss, heart problems, dizziness, extreme fatigue, and more owing to the virus. Globally an estimated 65 million people have this new chronic health condition. One recent long COVID study showed organ damage in more than half of a group of outpatients one year on.

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Numerous studies document the haunting brain impacts of long COVID, from loss of supportive cells in the brain called glial cells, to early death of our neurons leading to signs of early dementia in too many long COVID patients, even young ones who had only mild infectious symptoms during their initial COVID infection. Among the 10 percent of patients estimated to get long COVID, many of them experience cardiac problems like a racing heart and profound dizziness when they try to stand or sleep. Some have cramps, diarrhea, and bloating owing to problems with shifts in gut bacteria in antibiotic-treated COVID patients referred to as “gut dysbiosis,” which means that the normal bacteria are replaced with more dangerous blooms of organisms that wreak havoc on overall health by enabling dangerous secondary infections during and after COVID.

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Yet society at large just doesn’t seem to care. To date, the $1 billion earmarked for long COVID research through the NIH has yielded precious little. Mental and bureaucratic wranglings have study design teams stalled, and the long COVID, medical, and scientific communities are frustrated by the delay in answers.

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As an ICU physician, I’ve had a front-row seat to the heartbreak of the past three years. Two years ago, all but two of my patients were on ventilators with COVID-19. This week, I’ve had just two patients with the virus.

Some of the mooted $5 billion successor to Warp Speed, Project NextGen, should be earmarked to develop treatments for long COVID, because it’s a public health disaster hiding in plain sight.

Science doesn’t validate injury. People do that, or they don’t. Government and policy makers operationalize actual relief, or they don’t.
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How long before they're demonized as a conspiracy of lazy people who don't want to work?
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Oh, I'm pretty sure that's already happening.

And given how we already treat/view the chronically ill in the United States, things are likely going to get much, much worse.
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It's almost as if people are the problem.
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Pretty sure Project NextGen won't survive the debt ceiling talks.
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Smoove_B wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 3:06 pm given how we already treat/view the chronically ill in the United States, things are likely going to get much, much worse.
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Smoove_B wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 9:06 pm It's like if there was a Spinal Tap version of the CDC:


“We’re letting you know that several people who attended the [Epidemic Intelligence Service] Conference have tested positive for COVID-19,” a CDC branch chief wrote in an email to staff on Friday.

Nordlund said that conference leaders publicly announced the potential cases in the closing session of the conference, canceled an in-person training, emailed all officers with current CDC guidance and offered to extend the hotel stays of sick attendees who needed to isolate."

The CDC’s conference of epidemic intelligence service officers — the disease detectives deployed to identify and fight outbreaks — was held at a hotel in Atlanta between Monday and Thursday; officials said it drew about 2,000 people.

Among the presentations were more than a dozen sessions on the lessons from fighting covid, including “How Far We Have Come: A COVID-19 Surveillance System Evaluation,” a session that discussed improvements on tracking the virus."
Follow up from last month, there's now at least 181 cases associated with this event.
The CDC’s Epidemic Intelligence Service officers and alumni — the disease detectives deployed to identify and fight outbreaks — met April 24-27 at an Atlanta hotel. The conference drew 1,800 in-person attendees, the first in-person Epidemic Intelligence Service gathering in four years. Like many conferences, it was crowded, with much face-to-face contact, many events held in small rooms and lots of socializing, according to attendees. About 70 percent of participants who responded to a CDC survey said they did not wear masks at the event.
At least no one was hospitalized. I wonder what they're going to do next month?
Another CDC global health meeting is scheduled for the same hotel in early June; about 300 to 400 people are expected to attend in person, said one CDC employee who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak.

In a “Know Before You Go” document shared with The Washington Post, CDC organizers encourage attendees at the June conference to wear their “own high-quality masks and, if possible, also carry covid-19 rapid tests with them.” Organizers of the second conference were informed about the covid outbreak at the earlier event, CDC spokeswoman Kristen Nordlund said. The agency will have masks available if employees want to wear one, she said.
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The Brain and Long Covid
Ever since the UK Biobank study that showed brain atrophy, loss of grey matter, and cognitive decline in about 400 people who had Covid compared with matched controls, via baseline (pre-Covid) and subsequent (~3 years later) MRI scans, there has been significant worry about the impact this virus has on the brain. Two new studies, both from researchers in Germany, illuminate the mechanisms for inflammation of brain tissue which is persistent and occurs even in patients with a mild Covid illness. Importantly, these were studies of people with Covid, not specifically individuals who were suffering from Long Covid.
The potentially reassuring finding of the Hamburg study was the lack of cognitive decline that was noted among the patients with mild to moderate Covid at 10 months. However, that differed from the UK Biobank and other reports that had longer follow-up, more patients with moderate Covid, and larger sample sizes. What is disconcerting to recall is the post-polio syndrome (known as PPS) that appears late—from 15 to 30 years after poliovirus infection—and what can be a disabling, progressive condition characterized by muscle atrophy, severe muscle weakness, falls, and chronic pain, and a leading theory for its basis is persistence of the virus or its components. The point here about SARS-CoV-2 is that we don’t have long-term follow up; we don’t know what will be the real impact on brain function. The persistence of neuro-inflammation at 1 year after even mild Covid should highlight this dangling concern and bolster our efforts to avoid infections and reinfections of this virus, along with definitive work to find safe and effective treatments.
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Yeah, more and more studies coming out suggesting long term problems - all looking to do more follow up and additional research.

Meanwhile, the last bastion of data is pointing to trouble in NYC:
All 14 wastewater treatment plants across NYC are reporting high concentrations of SARS-CoV-2 coronavirus, according to the dashboard run by NYS Wastewater Surveillance Network. A “high” ranking translates to at least 50 or more COVID cases per 100,000 people.

The dashboard also gives a readout on two-week trends. The current rise dates back to late April for most sewersheds in the city, though ones covering Brooklyn, Staten Island, Queens and part of the Bronx recorded the starkest upturn over recent weeks. Wastewater from Yonkers, New Rochelle and parts of Rockland county are also trending upward with their coronavirus concentrations.

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The New York City health commissioner confirmed the wastewater uptick, but he and public health researchers said it’s too early to tell if the rise indicates the start of a full blown wave. The change could just be a blip caused by more people hanging out as the weather improves or due to a new version of omicron finding occasional places to thrive.
As a reminder:
The wastewater trend is noteworthy because similar signs have not appeared yet among confirmed cases — the classic way that people have followed COVID-19 patterns for the past three years. This metric depends on PCR testing, which labs and hospitals are no longer required to do, given rollbacks in recent months and the conclusion of COVID public health emergency in early May.

Daily, routine testing of staff and visitors had meant hospitals could serve as beacons for changes in community levels of the coronavirus. But hospitals statewide are no longer required to conduct SARS-CoV-2 testing except in outbreak situations, and the state also no longer requires hospitals to test people without symptoms. It’s mostly up to individual facilities to decide if and when they want to test
It's a great article regardless.
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Colorado wastewater still going in the 'good' direction as of now. Fingers crossed.

https://covid19.colorado.gov/data
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Study on "Long Covid" in health care workers (again, we're really trying to use PASC for "post-acute sequelae SARS-CoV-2 infection") suggests:
...as many as 27% developed long COVID after infection, and multiple infections raised the risk.

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Multiple COVID infections were predictive of developing long COVID; Overall, 887 HCWs (12.6%) had two or more SARS-CoV-2 infections, including 17.8% of cases and 10.6% of controls.
Good news:
The authors of the study found that vaccination was protective against long COVID development, but only among those who got multiple doses. Those who received four vaccine doses before infection (OR, 0.05; 95% CI, 0.01 to 0.19), were much less likely to develop long COVID.
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With everything going on with me I asked my doctor if it's possible that I had long covid and based on my history she does think that I do but she says there isn't a test for it.
I've come to the conclusion that I'm doomed.
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There's a few tests being developed in other countries, but you're right - there's no definitive test someone can take now to say for sure they have it (I think) because it potentially affects so many different things in different people. That said, I did see a few weeks ago they're pushing to use a scoring system domestically (I think similar to what they do with Lupus) where they give you a total number of points based on your most common symptoms based off research from 2022.

I can't provide medical advice here, but I would be doing everything I could to document (1) a COVID diagnosis and then (2) a PASC or Long Covid determination as well - if for no other reason that to protect yourself in the event you can't work and need to collect disability benefits; you want to get it all documented.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 6:46 pm I can't provide medical advice here, but I would be doing everything I could to document (1) a COVID diagnosis and then (2) a PASC or Long Covid determination as well - if for no other reason that to protect yourself in the event you can't work and need to collect disability benefits; you want to get it all documented.
Not sure if you saw my story in the health thread but short version is.
Dec 2021 started having Covid like symptoms. They stayed longer then my previous bouts (I think I had the symptoms about 4 times including this one). Symptoms lasted into Feb 2022. I was bed ridden the whole time and scheduled to see doc in person around feb. Had a virtual visit in Jan 2022.
Feb 18 2022 my body broke. Full kidney failure, 2 strokes, a blood clot in my bowels (just recently found that one out) and a 3 week map, AKA coma. All in the same day.
Because I hadn't bothered to take a covid test during the previous months (in my defense the symptoms were exactly the same as last time including major fatigue and getting a positive wouldn't have changed anything I was already doing) they didn't want to attribute it to Covid even tjough I had no other warnings or symptoms before that.
After all that I had to go on disability due to the end results and I'm still on it with no end in sight.
My doc might make a note about it being long covid but I'm not sure if it would make a difference at this point.
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I think I knew some of that, but not all of it. :(

While I'm not happy to hear you're still on disability, I'm glad to know you're at least receiving it. I'd humbly encourage you to have an official note made (if she's willing).

So sorry to hear all of it, regardless.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:49 pm I think I knew some of that, but not all of it. :(

While I'm not happy to hear you're still on disability, I'm glad to know you're at least receiving it. I'd humbly encourage you to have an official note made (if she's willing).

So sorry to hear all of it, regardless.
Thanks. Some of it is getting better. I'm fully off dyalisis now. Tubes have even been removed.
I'm recovered from full paralysis to partial mobility.
I can stand and walk short distances and feed myself. Still need a wheelchair for ling distances but was lucky enough to get a powered one from the insurance.
My brain is still shot. Lots of long term memory loss, short term shorts out (ex. I'll get all my pills put them in the pill cup and then promptly forget about it until i see ot hours later), and I can't process things anywhere near as fast as i could before.
Just had back surgery a week ago to help with at least one of my major pain issues.
All in all, I'm still here and just staying as positive as i can.
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Punisher wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:59 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:49 pm I think I knew some of that, but not all of it. :(

While I'm not happy to hear you're still on disability, I'm glad to know you're at least receiving it. I'd humbly encourage you to have an official note made (if she's willing).

So sorry to hear all of it, regardless.
Thanks. Some of it is getting better. I'm fully off dyalisis now. Tubes have even been removed.
I'm recovered from full paralysis to partial mobility.
I can stand and walk short distances and feed myself. Still need a wheelchair for ling distances but was lucky enough to get a powered one from the insurance.
My brain is still shot. Lots of long term memory loss, short term shorts out (ex. I'll get all my pills put them in the pill cup and then promptly forget about it until i see ot hours later), and I can't process things anywhere near as fast as i could before.
Just had back surgery a week ago to help with at least one of my major pain issues.
All in all, I'm still here and just staying as positive as i can.
Holy crap man.

Like Smoove, I feel like I heard/read about some of this - but not to this extent!! As an atheist, I can't hope that the god(s) that lined you up with this crap suddenly decides to give you relief, but I will tell you with all my heart that I would do anything in my power to help. I realize that's also probably pretty 'meaningless' to you, but I mean it.

Yikes. I feel for you, and can only wish you the most power - to power through this. I can't imagine anyone ever invoking another persons 'invitation' for just general help in a context like this - but can't begin to tell you how sincerely I'm available. It's a stupid gesture in so many ways, but with summer (school break) upon us - I'm honestly free to put my energies elsewhere.
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Unagi wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:30 pm Yikes. I feel for you, and can only wish you the most power - to power through this. I can't imagine anyone ever invoking another persons 'invitation' for just general help in a context like this - but can't begin to tell you how sincerely I'm available. It's a stupid gesture in so many ways, but with summer (school break) upon us - I'm honestly free to put my energies elsewhere.
Thanks. While I had VERY dark days while paralyzed in the hospital, 1 week in a physical therapy facility where I learned to find myself again made a HUGE difference. That was my big mental turn around point. Even if I can't do everything I used to physically I'm glad that I can do some things.
I still have a lot of pain and physical limitations but I'm getting used to them. Currently my biggest downer is my brain. I used to be pretty smart overall and it was easy to learn a lot even on my own. Now that I have lost over 30 years of IT and EMT knowledge and am having trouble learning anything is my current big to do. The physical stuff I'm leaving up to my docs to figure out like this recent back surgery. Unfortunately the brain doc has made it clear that there isn't a fix for it. It may mot be permanent but it also might be.
I guess if you are bored in the summer and want to study and master the brain to come up with a fix I won't say no. 😀
If anyone is interested in a detailed breakdown of everything I'm going through just ask. Just trying not to derail the thread too much.
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Punisher wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:49 pm
Unagi wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:30 pm Yikes. I feel for you, and can only wish you the most power - to power through this. I can't imagine anyone ever invoking another persons 'invitation' for just general help in a context like this - but can't begin to tell you how sincerely I'm available. It's a stupid gesture in so many ways, but with summer (school break) upon us - I'm honestly free to put my energies elsewhere.
Thanks. While I had VERY dark days while paralyzed in the hospital, 1 week in a physical therapy facility where I learned to find myself again made a HUGE difference. That was my big mental turn around point. Even if I can't do everything I used to physically I'm glad that I can do some things.
I still have a lot of pain and physical limitations but I'm getting used to them. Currently my biggest downer is my brain. I used to be pretty smart overall and it was easy to learn a lot even on my own. Now that I have lost over 30 years of IT and EMT knowledge and am having trouble learning anything is my current big to do. The physical stuff I'm leaving up to my docs to figure out like this recent back surgery. Unfortunately the brain doc has made it clear that there isn't a fix for it. It may mot be permanent but it also might be.
I guess if you are bored in the summer and want to study and master the brain to come up with a fix I won't say no. 😀
If anyone is interested in a detailed breakdown of everything I'm going through just ask. Just trying not to derail the thread too much.
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That's terrible, Punisher. Hoping things improve for you soon.
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I wish strength for you too, Punisher.
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Unagi wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:41 pm What part of this misserably country are you all held up in?
I'm in northeast NJ.
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Dang, then you live close to my cold-hearted sister, but half a country from me.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 12:49 am Dang, then you live close to my cold-hearted sister, but half a country from me.
Yes, but I do get to live in the Taylor Ham capital of the world! One very good reasoon to stay in Jersey!
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 7:49 pm I think I knew some of that, but not all of it. :(

While I'm not happy to hear you're still on disability, I'm glad to know you're at least receiving it. I'd humbly encourage you to have an official note made (if she's willing).

So sorry to hear all of it, regardless.
my reaction exactly. i was not aware of the extent of your infliction and disability! that's a tough row to hoe. please keep us all updated on your progress.
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Punisher wrote: Mon Jun 05, 2023 8:59 pm All in all, I'm still here and just staying as positive as i can.
Glad to hear it. Your story sounds unimaginably rough. I feel for you.
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It sucks accumulating these anecdotal horror stories. At some point we get too many for the deniers to dismiss. My wife and a friend had / has the long covid, but it was more of an energy issue and some memory / processing. How old are you Punisher?
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Montag wrote: Tue Jun 06, 2023 7:41 am It sucks accumulating these anecdotal horror stories. At some point we get too many for the deniers to dismiss. My wife and a friend had / has the long covid, but it was more of an energy issue and some memory / processing. How old are you Punisher?
Just turned 52 in dec
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Oh, and for the record, I never drank never smoked. But I have been diabetic for a while but it's been kept very under control. At least until I went to the hospital. Then it spiked while in there.
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Ontario to stop free COVID-19 rapid test program in pharmacies, grocery stores
An Ontario program that distributes free rapid tests for COVID-19 at grocery stores and pharmacies will end after this month.

The Ministry of Health wrote in a memo to the retailers recently that with lower rates of COVID-19, high vaccination rates and decreasing demand for tests, the program will wind down as of June 30.

The ministry is encouraging grocery stores and pharmacies to place final orders by June 16.

However, the ministry says free rapid tests will still be distributed in some "high priority" communities through organizations such as community health centres and Ontario Health Teams until Dec. 31.

The ministry says the extended distribution of tests will go toward groups that represent people at the highest risk for severe outcomes of COVID-19.
I'm surprised that they were still being provided. I only ever found one kit myself, and luckily haven't needed to use it. My pharmacy of choice, Shopper's Drugmart, used to have an online system that let you find out which locations had test kits, and for the latter part of 2022 there only ever seemed to be a couple of places with kits in stock in the entire city. Then in January they shut the system off and since then there's been no way to find out other then going in and asking.

It's been annoying to see online resellers that sell the same kits. I suspect that they have had people going around scooping up the free kits and are flipping them for 100% profit, or perhaps have someone diverting part of the government-purchased supply to them.
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I believe Smoove mentioned this study a couple of months ago, but it has published in Lancet this week.

Common, inexpensive diabetes drug could cut long COVID risk, study finds
A well-known, inexpensive diabetes drug appears to cut the risk of developing long COVID, hopeful-but-early new research suggests.

The study, published Thursday in the peer-reviewed journal Lancet Infectious Diseases, found outpatient treatment with the drug metformin — a common treatment for Type 2 diabetes — reduced long COVID incidence among infected patients by 41 per cent.

Roughly six per cent of those taking metformin went on to develop the condition, compared to close to 11 per cent of those in the placebo group. Participants on metformin were also less likely to be hospitalized roughly a month after infection by SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19.

"Metformin has clinical benefits when used as outpatient treatment for COVID-19 and is globally available, low-cost and safe," wrote the research team.
Two other drugs, ivermectin and fluvoxamine, were also studied, but neither made a difference on the incidence of long COVID.
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I mostly stopped updating here because there isn't much that strikes me as odd any more but today was my first infusion since my accident. I go to a place where the immunocompromised go, oddly enough, it is also an "infectious disease" center. I have no idea when, but they dropped their masking requirements. I guess they would have been the last to go. As such, spending several hours in an "infectious disease" center, where the immunocompromised sit for hours at a time, often having the immune system attacked, I was the only mask wearer, and the center was very clear to me that I did not have to wear a mask if I didn't want to.
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Some Chinatown doctor's offices are still masked, and they give you one to put on if you didn't bring one. Makes sense as Chinatown's full of seniors.
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