2023 is the first semi-reasonable year in some time in which to upgrade one's GPU

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Mon Nov 21, 2022 8:32 pm

just saw RX 6900 XT cards for under $600 on newegg (if you use the SWIFT payment installment thing) but i think this class of GPU is too long for my case. maybe i CAN wait for 7XXX cards next year.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:00 pm

this would have worked if i wasn't now thinking to ... just wait for the 7XXX series cards. i'm in no rush, really. (and i've waited _this_ long)

https://www.amazon.com/PowerColor-Graph ... B08V1WK4LB

PowerColor Red Dragon AMD Radeon™ RX 6800 XT Gaming Graphics Card with 16GB GDDR6 for $555

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:47 am

Seem like like NVidia, AMD is also having a big problem with their new high end GPU:

But at least, you're probably safe if you're buying boards made by AMD's AIB partners that are using different board design.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:02 pm

Yikes. Guess we'll see what AMD says.

Victoria Raverna · Post by **Victoria Raverna** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:34 pm

So the youtuber decided to just cut open the vapor chamber to see if there is a design problem:

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:06 pm

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:34 pm So the youtuber decided to just cut open the vapor chamber to see if there is a design problem:

OK.. Is that bad or good?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:08 pm

naednek wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 1:06 pm OK.. Is that bad or good?

If he's right, it's easy to fix by adding more liquid to future units. Much cheaper than completely redesigning it. Doesn't help anyone with a current unit of course.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:26 pm

So if that wasn't a design decision to save money does the manufacturer for AMD have to pay AMD for the loss?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:39 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jan 05, 2023 2:26 pm So if they wasn't a design decision to save money does the manufacturer for AMD have to pay AMD for the loss?

Depends what is actually going on. If one manufacturer has a flaw in their process where a certain number of cards are getting the wrong amount of fluid, it would seem that manufacturer is on the hook for replacing them. Or at least that is how it works in the industry I'm in.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 4:34 pm

All the bitter gamers waiting for prices on 3 series cards to fall off a cliff and screaming “HOLD!”on all the deal sites are probably going to be sorely disappointed when the drop they are hoping for doesn’t materialize.

In fact, prices are trending back up…looks like the dip was a couple months ago.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Jan 18, 2023 1:12 am

https://slickdeals.net/share/android_app/t/16386832

2 games and card for 558.

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hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:19 pm

prices are pretty clearly going up on the 6800XT. forget that, i can hold out longer.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:41 am

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:19 pm prices are pretty clearly going up on the 6800XT. forget that, i can hold out longer.

I haven’t looked in a couple of weeks, but that has been the trend for most of the more mainstream cards in the past several months sadly.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:43 pm

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:19 pm prices are pretty clearly going up on the 6800XT. forget that, i can hold out longer.

well, a few posts up you had listed a 6800XT card for $555. For $3 more you get 2 AAA games. so I figured that was a better deal. If the games interested you and you paid full price, this would save you $140

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 6:50 pm

naednek wrote: ↑Thu Jan 19, 2023 2:43 pm
hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Jan 18, 2023 10:19 pm prices are pretty clearly going up on the 6800XT. forget that, i can hold out longer.
well, a few posts up you had listed a 6800XT card for $555. For $3 more you get 2 AAA games. so I figured that was a better deal. If the games interested you and you paid full price, this would save you $140

unfortunately, i realized i have to take GPU card length into account... my current case has space for a 12.5" card, and this one was 12.8"

if need be, i have a larger case that i could swap alll my parts into and use that instead, but i'd rather not unless i really have to.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jan 19, 2023 8:29 pm

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 4:07 am

just placed an order for the Powercolor Red Dragon RX 6800 XT for $519 + tax (and with Dead Island 2 and The Callisto Protocol included)

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08V1WK4LB?m=ATVPDKIKX0DER

specs: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/p ... 0-xt.b8387

the end of this thread for me .... or is it? it says it won't ship til early March - and i have 30 days to return once receiving - so it's possssssssible something better could come along. but this one works in my current case and probably even with my current PSU.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Jan 31, 2023 12:01 pm

Those are pretty cards. Ive even worked out imaginary builds using one. Jayztwocents has my perfect looking case and build using one. Im sure by the time I ever get enough money to build a new system together the stuff will change. But it sure is a beautiful build.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 11:28 am

Intel ARC driver update ....10% - 77% improvement in speed.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 12:04 pm

Another look at them. This is the last in the series, so you might want to go back if you have a lot of interest in them.

Jaymon · Post by **Jaymon** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:17 pm

I keep looking, and I still just don't know.

I have this. GeForce RTX 2060 it costs $50 more today than when I purchased it in Oct 2019

And now they are up to the what 6000 series? But am I going to get hundreds of dollars worth of improvement by getting a new card? Every time I start looking into it, I get a cranky stress headache and rage quit.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 3:28 pm

https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gp ... ,4388.html

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Wed Feb 01, 2023 4:20 pm

My GTX 970 is still on the list! And equivalent to a ARC A380. Fascinating.

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 2:19 pm

It's nice to be at the top left for once. I was very skeptical about the 4090 but got an opportunity to grab one around MSRP and hemmed and hawed and then pulled the trigger. The timing was good as we've been seeing a run of the DLSS 3 stuff dropping. It makes a huge difference. Witcher 3, Cyberpunk, and Undying Light 2 with the settings thrown to the max and pulling 80-100 FPS in all these games?! It's impressive but then again the computer is pulling 500-600W under load and lots of dollars in the pot. Hopefully this will run me several years.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:17 pm

Jesus. Did they give you a rebate for your power bill when you bought that?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:53 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Feb 02, 2023 5:17 pm Jesus. Did they give you a rebate for your power bill when you bought that?

I wish. Solar helps here but I haven't had time to experiment with an undervolt or 70 or 80% power target which might shave a 100-150W off without much real impact on frames. I do somewhat laugh at the idea we've gone from a decade plus of regimented OC tinkering into an era where we might be kvetching about power optimization. What a time to live in.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:49 pm

My 1050 Ti at the bottom right. Ouch!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 7:59 pm

Down there with you on the 1070.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 8:16 pm

I have 3 gaming PCs and the worst them has a slightly higher graphics card than some of you and I *really* want to get that last one upgraded (1660 Super), but honestly nothing has really made it necessary.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:02 pm

I only HAVE a video card and am able to play games thanks to certain folk on OO. I can dream all day about neat cards Id get if I had the money but Im just glad for you guys keeping me in the game..so to speak.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 02, 2023 9:04 pm

For me, it's a combination of CPU, board, and graphics card. I can't really go any higher with what I've got and it's at the point where I'd have to replace everything, but the prices have been high enough to give me pause. I wish it were simpler than that.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 12:43 pm

Tech news ----AMD lowers production to keep costs up....Intel lowers ARC prices and boosts performance with new driver release.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:39 pm

it's a weird situation when people are rooting for Intel to 'introduce competition' lololol

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:21 am

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:39 pm it's a weird situation when people are rooting for Intel to 'introduce competition' lololol

I know, right? It’s hilarious to see some of the comments on some of the deals forums referring to Intel in complete underdog terms.

I get it, in this context, but considering their past and even current ‘juggernaut’ status, it just seems weird.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 9:25 am

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Sun Feb 05, 2023 6:39 pm it's a weird situation when people are rooting for Intel to 'introduce competition' lololol

I know, right? It’s hilarious to see some of the comments on some of the deals forums referring to Intel in complete underdog terms.

I get it, in this context, but considering their past and even current ‘juggernaut’ status, it just seems weird.

The messaging us: previously decent AMD has now joined the evil Nvidia in their battle against the consumer (not really mocking here, that argument can legit be made imo), so if you want to fight the good fight, support fledgling Intel, the David in this battle against Goliath(s)

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:02 pm

The weird thing is Intel is looking for anything to help them right now. Despite their gigantic size they are struggling right now story wise with Wall Street. They'd love for this to turn into some price war with people rooting them on.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Feb 06, 2023 12:09 pm

Could very well happen based on anecdotal evidence I’ve seen.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Tue Feb 07, 2023 3:01 pm

Yeah, intel's only an underdog in the sense that they've never participated in this market spectrum before, only producing onboard video until very recently. The irony would be if Intel were to go and purchase a previously Nvidia-allied manufacturer, to become their manufacturer and brand.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:51 am

I’m buying a new system and can get a 3090 put in the desktop for about 700 bucks less than a 4080. Should I pay extra for the 4080, or will the 3090 be good enough for some solid 4K gaming?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:06 am

If I had the money then the 4080. make sure its the 16gb model.

The RTX 4080 16GB is 20-90% faster than the RTX 3090 Ti in non ray-traced titles, and 2-3x faster in games with ray-tracing.

And thats comparing it to the the ti 3090.

Compared results.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/N ... 4138vs4081