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and I have my doubts about Bubbles being soul bound (reasons stated earlier) but I know I'm not soul bound. So from my view point, better Bubbles than me.Kraegor wrote:u were saying?tru1cy wrote:I don't think lassr is soulbound...
I want to vote for bubbles, but see no reason since Lassr has the majority now.
Victory Conditions
The Jötunn Victory: A Jötunn victory will occur when ever the number of Jötunn players outnumber or equal the number of non-Jötunn players.
The Æsir Victory: An Æsir victory will occur when all Jötunn players are eliminated.
The Vanir Victory: A Vanir victory will occur if the Soul-Bound players are still alive when one of the above conditions is also met.
A Vanir Victory (see above) will trump any other victory achieved.
what else can I do? There is no way I can prove myself without dying. I'm not sure who is soul bound. But the actions this last day makes me wonder about tru1cy. Kraegor sure looks guilty but hell he also looks guilty in almost every other game he plays. His random ranting makes him hard to read.Brendan wrote:Given that we almost certainly lose if you're not soulbound, I'd think you'd be making a more dramatic case for your innocence.
We're all innocentLassr wrote:Will the Governor call?
I'm innocent I tell you!
The problem is Arcanis planted seeds early based on his actual role - which many do and then reveal later. You, however, have only "revealed" info which was already available with a careful read thru....Brendan wrote:This is going to give me an aneurysm. You seriously, after all of Arcanis' ridiculousness, still think that I'm the more likely bad guy? This game is going to end in tears.
I suppose you buy Arcanis' assertion that this reference to "barking up the wrong tree" is supposed to exonerate him, huh?theohall wrote: The problem is Arcanis planted seeds early based on his actual role - which many do and then reveal later. You, however, have only "revealed" info which was already available with a careful read thru....
I need a bigger eye-rolling smiley than is available here.Arcanis wrote:Stop with the arguing and pick your night kill. I've got confirmation that mine was received already. Which means we are either waiting on Unagi to do the writeup or you to hurry your butt up. So get in gear. Also unless your through making your case against me and defending your self you should prepare for the great trial. You never answered if you wanted to go first or second either, i'm ready to go now as it is.
you know i meant my pm so don't even start. and you still haven't said if you want first or second i'm being nice and letting you choose, if you don't i'll start shortly after the day cycle begins.Brendan wrote:I need a bigger eye-rolling smiley than is available here.Arcanis wrote:Stop with the arguing and pick your night kill. I've got confirmation that mine was received already. Which means we are either waiting on Unagi to do the writeup or you to hurry your butt up. So get in gear. Also unless your through making your case against me and defending your self you should prepare for the great trial. You never answered if you wanted to go first or second either, i'm ready to go now as it is.
isn't sufficient.
I turned in my scan order last night - remember the 24 hour waiting period? I'm sure Arcanis, the rules lawyer, does.theohall wrote:Propose a motion - turn in the dang pm, Brendan.
Propose 2nd motion - decide if you want 1st or 2nd for the ensuing argument, Brendan.
Arcanis has made his position clear. You, as yet, have not.
Except for the fact that you just attempted to make some sort of meta-claim about me.Arcanis wrote:Figured there was no reason to wait since there was no meta information to be gained which was the sole reason for putting that rule in.
What meta claim? We are the only 2 people who have to submit a pm during the still! You know the role you claimed has to submit a pm too right. One of us, ie you, is evil and needs to submit who they will kill during the still and the other, ie me, needs to submit who they will scan. Every other role that has anything to do during a still is dead. so no matter who the rest of the group thinks is lying they still know that it is you and I that have to submit a pm for our choice at night.Brendan wrote:Except for the fact that you just attempted to make some sort of meta-claim about me.Arcanis wrote:Figured there was no reason to wait since there was no meta information to be gained which was the sole reason for putting that rule in.
no i really want to see him lynched today because i would rather the hippies win than him. At least they will only use me as compost he would likely do all kinds of horrible things to my corpse.Mr Bubbles wrote:I bet both of you are on the same team. Filthy mudbloods.
Just out of curiosity, how many more times will you push this erroneous idea before the end of the game? Twice? Three times? Every time you do, it telegraphs that you're either a non-soulbound Loki, or a soulbound Hel. That's the only way you would keep making this mistake.Arcanis wrote:Unless he managed to hit the soul bound last night we can't win this game any more.
I'll explain this very slowly and with small words then:Brendan wrote:Just out of curiosity, how many more times will you push this erroneous idea before the end of the game? Twice? Three times? Every time you do, it telegraphs that you're either a non-soulbound Loki, or a soulbound Hel. That's the only way you would keep making this mistake.Arcanis wrote:Unless he managed to hit the soul bound last night we can't win this game any more.
Please check your math here. Start with the knowledge the 3 is the majority vote, and there are only 2 soulbound.Arcanis wrote: if the bad guy is bound then this is the situation:
5 players
1 bound 'good'
1 bound evil
3 good
in the morning there are 2 good and 2 bound
bound pile on to a good. down to 2v1
evil kill the 1 good at night and win for vanir if loki or Jotnar if Hel.
please check the post above this one i already caught my mistake and had added my amendments to it.Brendan wrote:Please check your math here. Start with the knowledge the 3 is the majority vote, and there are only 2 soulbound.Arcanis wrote: if the bad guy is bound then this is the situation:
5 players
1 bound 'good'
1 bound evil
3 good
in the morning there are 2 good and 2 bound
bound pile on to a good. down to 2v1
evil kill the 1 good at night and win for vanir if loki or Jotnar if Hel.
ok so your other path is a bound loki and we manage to lynch his partner? doubt thats gona happen but it is the only other possible way you can be thinking it is possible. That only works if you or I are bound since we are pretty assuredly the ones who are going to get lynched. I know i'm not bound at all and i know i'm not loki. I also know you are Jotnar and you could be bound but i haven't seen anyone trying to help you make your case either.Brendan wrote:I see you edited your post after I pointed out your flawed analysis, but you still have yet to acknowledge that those of us who're good can still win this thing if no soulbound dies tonight. Perhaps that's because you haven't actually bothered thinking about that case, what with your preoccupation with other victory conditions.
It's an unlikely scenario, but it's the only chance in that particular case, so, yet again, I'll point out that the path is completely clear for those of us on the side of mankind: regardless of what happens tonight, if you and I are still alive tomorrow, it's down to that single decision for everyone.
Uh huh. I think we can all read the timestamps. Besides, you know that editing your posts is a bad idea, right?Arcanis wrote:oh and the edited post isn't the one you quoted it was the one after it that i edited, you know the one you missed that corrected my mistake before you pointed it out.