stessier wrote:And you usually don't have such petty emotions. Normally you see the logic of the situation and pounce. Logic should tell you to test Chaos or Kraegor, not Semaj no matter how you feel about his claim.
But you've been lobbying for everyone to test you instead of Kraegor... Does that mean you're not being logical? Or what?
Remus West wrote:Now then, suppose we lynch one of the two people who are being pointed to as wolves by "seer" scan. That tells us something. It is also interesting that, rather than stand by your "seer" Semaj and push to lynch his wolf (Chaosraven), you turn on him and try to get him lynched. Why would you want to lynch a potential Seer rather than test them by their scan?
Because I have negative vibes about my PM interaction with Semaj and more favorable vibes about my PM interaction with stessier.
Gut, mi amigo. Gut.
Given his current behavior, my money is on Kraegor and Grundbegriff as the furry fiends.
Remus West wrote:Frankly, Kraegor's interpretation means nothing.
Unless Kraegor is the real seer. I want to hear what he has to say.
I fail to see how what I say is relevant. It's a binary problem with a 2 part solution. I'm the wolf. You should kill stessier to prove me, then lynch Grund.
Semaj wrote:Like I said in that Pm Grund, if you were a wolf: bravo.
Shame it seems Steiss May have scanned your partner and outted you both.
At this point barring you guys pulling something out of your collective Derriers, tis all over but the tears.
Like I said, I'm willing to die to prove you a Fake Seer
Dude-- I'm not the Seer, and you know that... one way or another.
Yupyup.
And if you pulled this as a villager I'ma be highly irritated. Like I said earlier.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
FWIW, I just tossed an accusation at growlbewolf behind the scenes to see what I could stir up.
Didn't expect a he said, were said, seer-off.
But rock on.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
stessier wrote:
Against Kraegor(1): Scoop20906
Against Chaosraven(2): Grundbegriff, Semaj
Against mipe(1): mipe
Against purge(1): purge
Against stessier(1): stessier
No vote registered: Chaosraven, Kraegor, Remus West
Austin claims laziness on voting, which is closed and we now get a boilerplate and info on kraegor.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Kraegor smiled and whistled a happy tune as he was on his way to the gallows. (He was a happy sort and always in good cheer) As the floor dropped from under him, his neck snapped like a twig and he went still. "Looks like we missed again" someone said from the crowd.
It is Night, Seer sen...
"What was that?"
Suddenly Kraegor twitched and trembled. A clawed hand came swiping at Scoop and stopped just before contact. The sparkle of silver shone from a notch in a gallows support. Kraegor is dead and Kraegor was a werewolf.
It is night. Seer, send me your scan. Wolf - send me your kill.
Austin wrote:A clawed hand came swiping at Scoop and stopped just before contact. The sparkle of silver shone from a notch in a gallows support. Kraegor is dead and Kraegor was a werewolf.
I dont care less what the order of kills is, but you all know it.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Dawn came and the village was quiet; too quiet. Though a pleasant peaceful quiet, like an annoying buzz you hadn't realized was there, was now gone and things just felt better. Yes, the Raving had finally ceased; Chaosraven was eaten by a werewolf. Chaosraven is Dead.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Whatever... I actually think most of the "trusted block" prolly figured grund had to go first today, meaning we only had 1 miss all game. I think thats a pretty solid game for the good guys considering our adversaries.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
I don't give them constant updates and I took yesterday as a personal day so they missed out on that.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
“The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, but wiser people so full of doubts.”
Bertrand Russell
Since I got a laugh out of it (and it looks like Scoop did too), this is what I sent to Grund last night -
stessier wrote:You can't win, Wolf. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
I mean, I would never lie about being the mouthpiece for another. And if I did, I could never do it convincingly. Nor would I ever leave a code that a true Seer could reference to show the plan. What would be the point?
And, because I wanted to cover all my bases, this went to Semaj.
stessier wrote:You can't win, Wolf. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.
I mean, I'm not a very good player...hardly worth a scan. And I would never lie about being the mouthpiece for another. And if I did, I could never do it convincingly. Nor would I ever leave a code that a true Seer could reference to show the plan. What would be the point?
Notice the customization for each target.
I doubt it figured in very much to Grund's decision to let me live, but whatever the reason, I thank him. I haven't lived to the end of one of these...since my first game now that I think about it. Nice to finally break that streak.
It's not like I was a viable target day 1 for a change, or night 1.
ok maybe I was, but I think most people expect me to die on day one or day 2 so it makes not killing me seem wiser
Ok I understood the fake seer gambit Grund. Had Steiss not scanned Krae you might have taken the obvious heat of Kraegor who was your best chance ot make it to end game.
What I dont understand was the killing of chaosraven.
Was it a spite thing?
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
And Chaos should get most of the credit for winning this one. He and I had been PM'ing a bit and after I got Kraegor as a wolf, I went to him and said I was really suspecting Scoop and Grund as being wolves (the previous day I had said Remus and Grund). Without any prompting, he sent Grund
Chaosraven wrote:Yer busted.
And that started everything else. So three cheers for the Raving Master!
P.S.I really want to know what this looked like from the wolves angle. I hope Kraegor or Grund will indulge us.
stessier: to Semaj wrote:I mean, I'm not a very good player...
I've never said you were a bad player steiss...
I just said if you and Mipe were the day 1 and 2 scans I'da called shenanigans. To me Grund/Chaos/Me make more sense as day 1 or 2 scans.
The other option is voting for people you expect to be around 3 or 4 days. Purge, You, Mipe.... Getting a trusted voting block.
I tend to look for wolves in games where the miss amount is lower. So thats why it made sense to me.
Some claim to be things they aren't.
Some claim things they don't deserve.
Some claim to know more than they ever will.
I don't claim anything, because no one would believe the truth anyways.
Semaj wrote:I've never said you were a bad player steiss...
That was mostly thrown in there for the case where you were a wolf. I know you didn't say that, but being smug and rubbing in my obvious brilliant fake was just part of the role I was creating on the fly. No offense taken or anything like that.
I just said if you and Mipe were the day 1 and 2 scans I'da called shenanigans. To me Grund/Chaos/Me make more sense as day 1 or 2 scans.
The other option is voting for people you expect to be around 3 or 4 days. Purge, You, Mipe.... Getting a trusted voting block.
I tend to look for wolves in games where the miss amount is lower. So thats why it made sense to me.
All of this has been noted and added to your Rolodex file...er, I mean, interesting.
stessier: to Semaj wrote:I mean, I'm not a very good player...
I've never said you were a bad player steiss...
I just said if you and Mipe were the day 1 and 2 scans I'da called shenanigans. To me Grund/Chaos/Me make more sense as day 1 or 2 scans.
The other option is voting for people you expect to be around 3 or 4 days. Purge, You, Mipe.... Getting a trusted voting block.
I tend to look for wolves in games where the miss amount is lower. So thats why it made sense to me.
That is just silly. You previously said you expect to die early. That makes you a horrid scan choice for early on. Same with Grund, he is on a short life span (or should be) so scanning him is a waste since either the village or the wolves should kill him early. If your scan hits a wolf great but you want to avoid what happened to stessier and have your scans eaten the night you make them.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken