NCAA Football 2021

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Thu May 13, 2021 2:39 pm

Didn't see a thread yet and big news out of the Pac-12 - the new commissioner has been agreed upon (per Wilner) apparently:

Sources: The next #Pac12 commissioner is George Kliavkoff, from MGM

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu May 13, 2021 5:03 pm

Meh. Nothing I've read about him makes me particularly excited for what he brings to the table.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri May 14, 2021 9:16 am

Odd/Interesting choice...

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Fri May 14, 2021 4:47 pm

Entertainment specialist. An interesting idea.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri May 14, 2021 7:03 pm

Scuzz wrote: ↑Fri May 14, 2021 4:47 pm Entertainment specialist. An interesting idea.

Larry Scott 2.0

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon May 24, 2021 2:36 pm

Shocking exactly no one, cheating and tampering in the transfer portal is starting to become a significant issue

Who could have possibly foreseen this?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon May 24, 2021 3:07 pm

It's not a transfer portal issue. The alleged tampering is happening before the player enters the transfer portal. Once the player is in the transfer portal, it's not tampering.

I liked this quote from the article:

What's happening is a difficult transition for coaches, he said. They're used to holding all the power, and now power is shifting toward the players.

"It's a correction, and they're not used to it," he [former Coastal Carolina defensive back Nicholas Clark] said. "But who's to say it's a bad thing?"

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Tue Jun 08, 2021 3:08 pm

Big news out of CU yesterday. Starting QB Sam Noyer entering the transfer portal:

https://www.espn.com/college-football/s ... fer-portal

Colorado starting quarterback Sam Noyer will enter the transfer portal, the school announced Monday.

Noyer guided the Buffaloes to a 4-2 record and was named second-team All-Pac-12 after completing 88 of 160 passes for 1,101 yards with six touchdowns and seven interceptions in an abbreviated season.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Jun 10, 2021 7:07 pm

Some very interesting potential developments from the CFP meetings.

Sources tell me & @ByPatForde that the CFP working group is recommending a 12-team playoff: 6 highest-ranked conference champs & 6 at-large.

The 4 highest-ranked champs get a bye while other 8 play 1st-round games on campus.

Long way from done, but this is the recommendation.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:01 pm

Arizona State may be in some serious trouble over recruiting violations.

As a Utah fan, I was very interested to see the bit about Jayden Daniels' mom and the airline tickets. He was a very last minute flip from Utah to ASU, and we've all wondered if there may have been something fishy going on there. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out, but I won't shed any tears for ASU either way. I have generally liked Herm Edwards, but ASU has always been my least favorite P12 team, dating back to the Todd Graham era. That guy was a prick.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 9:06 am

The old Vegas Bowl matchup (MWC Champ vs. P12 #5) is now the Jimmy Kimmel LA Bowl.

No, really.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Tue Jul 06, 2021 10:53 am

RIP Terry Donahue. An excellent man and an excellent coach. Played DT at 198 lbs... and started in a Rose Bowl victory.

Donahue was a native Angeleno, playing his high school football at Notre Dame High School in Sherman Oaks. Weighing only about 180 pounds in high school, his only college offer was as a walk-on at San Jose State. He stayed only one year before moving back to Los Angeles to attend LA Valley College.

Donahue transferred to UCLA to play defensive tackle, at all of 195 pounds, for Tommy Protho. He would go on to play on UCLA’s 1966 Rose Bowl that upset then top-ranked Michigan State. In fact, Donahue has been a part of every UCLA Rose Bowl winning team during his time in Westwood...

...That season foretold of better things to come for Donahue at UCLA. The Bruins would win four conference titles and tie for another. He finished first or second in the conference a dozen times in his 20 years. The Bruins won the Rose Bowl in 1983, (Michigan); 1984, (Illinois); and 1986, (Iowa). UCLA also won a then-record seven straight bowl games from the 1983 Rose Bowl through the 1989 Cotton Bowl.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Mon Jul 19, 2021 2:38 pm

I can't believe he said this about the reasons to get vaccinated without getting hit by lightening.

SEC commissioner Greg Sankey says COVID concerns won't lead to rescheduled games

"It's not a political football," Sankey said of vaccinations, "and we need to do our part to support a healthy society because, as we look back, the potential absence of college sports last year caused us to think about not losing sight of the lifelong experiences, the laboratory of learning that takes place, and the educational benefits that accrue to the people who participate on our teams."

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:31 pm

Alabama QB nearing $1MM in endorsements, according to Saban.

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Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 7:31 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Tue Jul 20, 2021 6:31 pm Alabama QB nearing $1MM in endorsements, according to Saban.

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Yeah, for 99% of the players, they actually will be treated like Professionals - but here's what that looks like in the minors:

Bank statements of Ports players reviewed by SFGATE reveal that team hotel charges over a two-week stretch exceeded the A's bimonthly paychecks, a bizarre situation that is only alleviated when the Ports hit the road and the A's are required to cover hotel fees. Through September, whenever the Ports have another long homestand, they're going to face the same conundrum.

Usually, minor league players — who make $500 a week before taxes — rely on the hospitality of host families during the season in order to avoid losing most or all of their paycheck to rent alone. Host families, often strangers, will put the players up free of charge or for very cheap, an odd but exceedingly kind arrangement on their part. But this year, because of the pandemic, host families haven't been available to Stockton players (nor most other minor leaguers).

Scholarship plus room & board ain't lookin' so bad all of a sudden.

Oh, and what happens to those Bama QB endorsements when Saban switches QB's?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Tue Jul 20, 2021 8:02 pm

Being heavily discussed in a TideFans forum I visit. I'm not a fan of this but it is what it is these days. Be nice if there was a cap.

I'm sure a new position in a lot of football depts is going to be financial advisor. At least I know Saban will have help for them in managing life with this type of money at their age. May not be that way at some universities and maybe they learn a lesson before thrown into the NFL.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:53 pm

Just read an article (with the original report behind a paywall in the Houston Chronicle) about Oklahoma and Texas looking to jump to the SEC. Anybody hear that noise? And any chance of that actually going down? From what I skimmed, the article was a lot of "no comment" from everyone, and speculative/reactionary tweets. I'm guessing just unsubstantiated chatter or a slow news day?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:28 pm

Baroquen wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:53 pm Just read an article (with the original report behind a paywall in the Houston Chronicle) about Oklahoma and Texas looking to jump to the SEC. Anybody hear that noise? And any chance of that actually going down? From what I skimmed, the article was a lot of "no comment" from everyone, and speculative/reactionary tweets. I'm guessing just unsubstantiated chatter or a slow news day?

Lots of noise, but who knows.

Nobody's confirming it, but they're not exactly making any strong denials either

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 7:33 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 6:28 pm
Baroquen wrote: ↑Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:53 pm Just read an article (with the original report behind a paywall in the Houston Chronicle) about Oklahoma and Texas looking to jump to the SEC. Anybody hear that noise? And any chance of that actually going down? From what I skimmed, the article was a lot of "no comment" from everyone, and speculative/reactionary tweets. I'm guessing just unsubstantiated chatter or a slow news day?
Lots of noise, but who knows.

Nobody's confirming it, but they're not exactly making any strong denials either

A&M and Mizzou are allegedly big "NO"'s. Which means only 2 more no votes to veto it.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:32 pm

The Big 12 would basically be a mid-major if this happens.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Jul 21, 2021 11:45 pm

I don't believe it would survive. They've already lost four and only replaced two. And those were with TCU and WVU, not exactly big historic draws. Who we going to get this time? SMU and UCF?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Thu Jul 22, 2021 4:25 pm

Looks like it's more than just smoke. From a reporter in Dallas.

SOURCES: After notifying the @Big12Conference early next week, @TexasLonghorns and @UofOklahoma will petition the @SEC for membership.

Early next week, the @TexasLonghorns and @UofOklahoma will send a letter to the @Big12Conference stating that neither school will renew their media contracts when they expire in 2025.

Yowzers.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 10:20 am

Not a fan but many saw this coming after the NIL decision. I liked college football because it was not the NFL, that is changing. We will soon have NFL Lite and I think the smaller teams will have to form their own conference and rules separate from the big boys to survive.

Pate sums up how I feel pretty good:

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:11 pm

Picking up steam.

Prominent Big 12 source tells the American-Statesman the Texas-OU move to the SEC is almost done. "They've been working on this for a minimum of 6 months, and the A&M leadership was left out of discussions and wasn't told about it." Move could become official in a week.

Feels like shit like this was inevitable, but it still sucks for every school not in the SEC.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:33 pm

I don't know how much it really sucks for non Big 12 teams. One powerhouse and one fading glory (but rich) school moving to an already overloaded conference doesn't change much immediately for the Big 10, ACC, and PAC 12. It sucks for Texas A&M big time, though, especially if they were specifically excluded from the discussions. Talk about being disrespected.

Long term, this may kick off another round of expansion generally. Supposedly Kansas has reached out to the Big 10, but I don't know how excited I am about their crappy football program and scandal-plagued basketball program. I say we add Cincinnati and piss off Ohio State.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 12:52 pm

It feels like yet another incremental move towards one conference that is NFL-lite (with all the money, exposure, and recruiting advantages that entails), then everyone else. Not a huge practical change from how it is now, I suppose, but another nudge in that direction. I can't imagine I'm the only one whose overall interest in college football will continue to decline as a result.

I have seen some (very unsubstantiated) rumors flying around this morning that Baylor, TTU, and TCU have already reached out to the P12. I can't see that ever happening (P12 isn't particularly friendly to religious schools), but would be another nail in the B12's coffin if it did somehow go through.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:17 pm

The plot thickens...

The lack of transparency by our flagship institution is wrong. Such a monumental economic and educational decision impacting the entire state must not be made in a bubble on the forty acres. Working on legislation requiring legislative approval for UT to bolt the BIG XII.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:25 pm

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 1:36 pm

Maryland doesn't get the opportunity to trash talk in football much these days, so good for them!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Jul 23, 2021 2:25 pm

I’m glad to see Leach is all for free market capitalism.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:47 pm

Looks like the SEC is now after Ohio State and Michigan as well

Have fun, I guess.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 2:49 pm

Wilner has a great piece about the larger picture. The monopoly considerations aren't good...

https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/07/25/ ... -plan/amp/

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:04 pm

Skinypupy wrote:Looks like the SEC is now after Ohio State and Michigan as well

Have fun, I guess.

Link not loading on mobile for me.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:08 pm

While the immediate benefits would be huge (imagine the TV revenue for the first Bama/Michigan conference game), I think this will be the death knell of college football in the long run. Everyone who isn’t already a fan of the teams in the “super-conference” will simply stop caring. I know I probably will.

i imagine the calculus is that having all the power teams in one place offsets losing literally everyone else. From a fan perspective (especially as one that would likely be left out of that final equation), it would just suck to see it college football simply crumble away for everyone except 16-20 teams.

But I guess that’s what our ESPN overlords have deemed acceptable and profitable, so we’ll all just have to live with it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:10 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:04 pm
Skinypupy wrote:Looks like the SEC is now after Ohio State and Michigan as well

Have fun, I guess.
Link not loading on mobile for me.

Weird, working fine on my iPhone.

Could you picture a Big Ten that doesn’t include Michigan and Ohio State? That is apparently a possibility if you believe this latest rumor on conference realignment.

Jack McGuire — who writes for Barstool Sports and is a producer on the popular Unnecessary Roughness college football podcast — is reporting that the Southeastern Conference is in “serious contact” with Michigan and Ohio State about joining the league. He added that he is unaware of whether or not this could actually happen but that there is at least interest from the SEC to poach two of the Big Ten’s biggest programs.

McGuire’s tweet above was met with plenty of skeptism — including from myself — but right now it seems like anything and everything is possible in conference realignment. I couldn’t imagine the Big Ten letting both the Buckeyes and Wolverines leave the league, but you never know and this will be something to potentially monitor in the coming weeks.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:02 pm

You never know, but that rumor doesn't make a lot of sense. The Big Ten is super rich Michigan and OSU don't need SEC money like Texas and OU might. Then if you look at things from a competitive standpoint, why would either team want to move to the SEC? OSU has a virtual lock on playoff bids these days, and Michigan isn't going to find any relief from its woes by moving to the SEC.

My guess is someone is just throwing shit against the wall for clicks/follows.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 2:49 pm

It only makes sense from a CFB monopoly perspective on top teams and the SEC wanting to be in control of any super conference setup

Which means they have likely reached out to Notre Dame as well.

Here's a good look at the monopoly power grab stakes:

this entire realignment, for the moment, must to be viewed through SEC commissioner Greg Sankey's dissatisfaction with the NCAA. Sankey has been public in his criticism, most recently Monday in a strident takedown of NCAA president Mark Emmert and his association at the opening of the 2021 SEC Media Days.

If the NCAA and Emmert are not going to lead college athletics, this move will position the SEC and Sankey to fill the void.

It may not be the most principled move stealing the Longhorns and Sooners, but as we learned a decade ago, there is no honor amongst conferences in realignment.

With the most best teams, the SEC will essentially be able to make its own rules. Why stop at a limit of 25 scholarships per year? The SEC could, on its own, go to 30. Why not 40? How about a 150-man roster?...

...n to a logical conclusion, there is going to be faction of programs that will pay players and enter into group licensing agreements. That hints of unionization.

Why stop there? Think reworked amateurism and eligibility rules. A streamlined enforcement model with more liberal rules where cases take weeks to be adjudicated instead of years. Think an SEC owned-and-operated streaming service that brings in even more money.

All of it has to be in play in the long term. There is simply no one around to stop the SEC. The NCAA is already on record as waving the white flag hoping that conferences will step up.

As much as anything else, this power play is about … power. Watch what the SEC does with its version of a 16-team superconference. (It may not even stop there.) With no central NCAA authority, there will be those who follow the SEC's athletic model and those who don't ... or can't, whether financially or otherwise.

I don't think most of the Pac-12/B1G are on board with the SEC driving everything here, and would expect a counter-move/partnership - maybe with the ACC+ND as well, but Pac-12/B1g makes the most sense, not only from a football perspective, but also an academic perspective - and would be a good way of being the good guys and at least claiming to care about academics and save College Football from the SEC.

Get to 32, have 4 8-team pods (at least), have a playoff/championship with semis in Indy/LV, and play the championship at the Rose Bowl on New Year's Day and tell the SEC to f-o (until a compromise/powersharing agreement is worked out at least).

In that scenario, the B1G might try to grab TX/OU if so desired. But, national politics will likely come into play, and that affinity really pushes TX/OU to the SEC.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:40 pm

Pretty surprising developments. Based on the limited info we have now - I would guess the long term result for College Football/Athletics in general is:

There will either be 2 power conferences (say ACC merges with SEC and Big 10 / Pac 12 merge) or CFB will basically be divided into a "Premier League" vs everyone else. The Big 12 is done as a power 5 the moment Oka/Texas join the SEC. So that leaves 4 "power" conferences to work things out. The ACC should be bending over backwards to get ND to join their conference in footbal and allow them to keep/horde their NBC money. The SEC/ACC becoming one conference at that point just seems natural. Lots of natural rivalries there.

What is interesting is whether this will permeate across all sports (in the conference merge scenario I think it somewhat likely) or if it's limited to football. Football is the king of revenue so it's going to rule the roost.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:51 pm

On another note, I would be fine with CFB taking the top 40-50 teams and becoming a "Premier" League along with relegation and promotion. Talk about coaches on the hot seat! LOL.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Jul 26, 2021 7:54 pm

JCC wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 6:51 pm On another note, I would be fine with CFB taking the top 40-50 teams and becoming a "Premier" League along with relegation and promotion. Talk about coaches on the hot seat! LOL.

It depends on whether they do the other things the SEC is hypothesized as wanting to do to really professionalize the sport, per the CBS article I quoted above. I really don't think the B1G (or Pac 12, as if they matter) want to go down the CFB as a professional sport path as much as the SEC/TX & OU want to. Nor does ND and probably most of the ACC (except for FSU/Mia/Clemson).

The main issue isn't that CFB would go to a "premier" league, it's whether it will be as professionalized as the SEC schools want it to be. B1G/Pac-12/most of the ACC tend to be a little bit less dominated by the Athletic Depts (save for tOSU and maybe USC/Michigan, and even tOSU seems to prefer the B1G to the SEC model thus far - that might change if the SEC model starts making them irrelevant).