R.I.P. The thread of death....celebrity or otherwise

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Sun May 09, 2021 7:52 pm

Jaymann wrote:I knew she was married to Chuck Finley, who was an outstanding pitcher for the Angels. She was indeed hot stuff back in the day.

Didn't she get arrested for domestic violence against him? I thought she was an alcoholic as well. Maybe I'm wrong.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun May 09, 2021 8:15 pm

Xmann wrote: ↑Sun May 09, 2021 7:52 pm
Jaymann wrote:I knew she was married to Chuck Finley, who was an outstanding pitcher for the Angels. She was indeed hot stuff back in the day.
Didn't she get arrested for domestic violence against him? I thought she was an alcoholic as well. Maybe I'm wrong.

Yeah, that happened (reported as kicking him with high heels) and he divorced her ass.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue May 11, 2021 2:08 pm

Colt Brennan (Hawaii QB and 2007 Heisman finalist) passes away at 37.

Whatever the story is behind that can't be good.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue May 11, 2021 4:01 pm

Sporting News

Hawaii News Now reports that Brennan was at a rehabilitation facility in California at the time of his death.
...
Brennan struggled with drugs and alcohol throughout his life, last being arrested in 2020 on a second-degree trespassing charge after refusing to leave a hotel while intoxicated. A 2010 car crash left Brennan with brain trauma.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed May 12, 2021 1:15 am

Bet you didn't see this one coming.

Norman Lloyd, Actor in ‘St. Elsewhere’ and Hitchcock’s ‘Saboteur,’ Dies at 106

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed May 12, 2021 1:18 am

RIP, Professor Galen.

Hrdina · Post by **Hrdina** » Thu May 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Wed May 12, 2021 1:15 am Bet you didn't see this one coming.

Norman Lloyd, Actor in ‘St. Elsewhere’ and Hitchcock’s ‘Saboteur,’ Dies at 106

The week before mothers' day we were down at my mom's house, watching some game show from the early 1980s that included the St Elsewhere cast. I looked up Norman on IMDB and said "holy shit, that dude's 106 now and still kicking".

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Fri May 14, 2021 9:44 am

Sad to see one of the few remaining links to the Golden Age of Hollywood die, even though he's had a long run. I watched an episode of St Elsewhere just last month. RIP.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri May 14, 2021 5:57 pm

Spencer Silver, the chemist who gave Post-it Notes their signature stick, dies at 80

Silver, a chemist from Texas, created the adhesive that gives Post-it Notes their stickiness. It took years for his colleague Art Fry to realize the specific genius of Silver's invention. Silver, who earned 37 patents while at 3M and was inducted into the National Inventors Hall of Fame for his achievements, died this month at age 80, 3M confirmed. He's survived by his wife, Linda, his daughter, Jennifer, his two grandchildren and the sticky notes that litter our lives.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri May 14, 2021 6:43 pm

Will he be stuck to a wall in state for those that want to pay their respects?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri May 14, 2021 11:01 pm

RIP

Veteran space journalist Jay Barbree, who covered more than 160 missions, dies at 87

Space journalist Jay Barbree died Friday in Florida. The veteran NBC News correspondent was 87.

Barbree began covering NASA in 1957 when the space agency was struggling with a series of humiliating rocket explosions.

In 1958, Barbree joined NBC News and began a storied career that would span 61 years.

He went on to cover every human space mission to leave U.S. soil, beginning with Alan Shepherd’s Freedom 7 flight in 1961, until the last space shuttle mission in 2011.

In all, Barbree reported on 166 human spaceflight missions.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 15, 2021 12:26 am

A lot of folks wont know this one but Im posting it anyways. Gamespot and CNET guy.

Tor Thorsen, former Gamespot Senior Editor, has passed away

People who regularly followed Gamespot's live shows from a decade+ ago may remember Tor as a regular member of On the Spot alongside other staff like Jeff Gerstmann, Rich Gallup, and other members of that mid-2000's heyday of the site. It's difficult to find anything on where Tor went after he left Gamespot and CNET, but members of the community who remember those days might recall his presence as just part of what gave shows like On the Spot, The Hotspot, and others their distinct personality and helped foster that audience

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 15, 2021 6:05 pm

Kid reporter who interviewed Obama at White House dies at 23

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (AP) — The student reporter who gained national acclaim when he interviewed President Barack Obama at the White House in 2009 has died of natural causes, his family says.

Damon Weaver was 23 when he died May 1, his sister, Candace Hardy, told the Palm Beach Post. Further details were not released. He had been studying communications at Albany State University in Georgia.

Weaver was 11 when he interviewed Obama for 10 minutes in the Diplomatic Room on Aug. 13, 2009, asking questions that focused primarily on education. He covered school lunches, bullying, conflict resolution and how to succeed.

Weaver then asked Obama to be his “homeboy,” saying then-Vice President Joe Biden had already accepted.

“Absolutely,” a smiling Obama said, shaking the boy's hand.

He used that meeting to later interview Oprah Winfrey and athletes like Dwyane Wade.

“He was just a nice person, genuine, very intelligent,” Hardy said. “Very outspoken, outgoing. He never said no to anybody.”

Jag · Post by **Jag** » Sat May 15, 2021 6:31 pm

has died of natural causes, his family says

Very sad. Also dying at 23 is not of natural causes.

Suitably Ironic Moniker · Sat May 15, 2021 7:53 pm

Jag wrote: ↑Sat May 15, 2021 6:31 pm
has died of natural causes, his family says
Very sad. Also dying at 23 is not of natural causes.

There are definitely diseases, syndromes, cancers, or even viruses that can kill a 23 year old and be classified as “natural causes.”

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Sat May 15, 2021 9:08 pm

Yeah, it seems ridiculous, but strokes and heart attacks are considered natural causes.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sat May 15, 2021 11:00 pm

My wife got MS in her early twenties so yeah, so bad health problems happen to young people too for no particularly good reason.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri May 28, 2021 3:12 pm

John Davis, real Milli Vanilli singer, dies from Covid aged 66

Always hated how that all went down. The real singers were good and should have gotten all the spot light. Instead some lip sync'n no talents got it. Was all wrong.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat May 29, 2021 1:55 pm

Mark Eaton, longtime Utah Jazz center and 2-time NBA Defensive POY passes away at 64. Went out for a bike ride and didn’t come back. No foul play suspected, but no more details.

I worked with Mark a few times in my last job, when we would set up “celebrity” basketball games with former NBA and Collegiate players from Utah. He was one of the nicest famous people I’ve ever met. RIP Mark.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat May 29, 2021 2:13 pm

Skinypupy wrote:Mark Eaton, longtime Utah Jazz center and 2-time NBA Defensive POY passes away at 64. Went out for a bike ride and didn’t come back. No foul play suspected, but no more details.

I worked with Mark a few times in my last job, when we would set up “celebrity” basketball games with former NBA and Collegiate players from Utah. He was one of the nicest famous people I’ve ever met. RIP Mark.

Former Bruin too, as I recall. RIP.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat May 29, 2021 5:55 pm

TMZ

Gavin MacLeod -- a veteran TV actor, famous for roles on "The Love Boat" and "The Mary Tyler Moore Show" -- has died ... TMZ has learned.

MacLeod passed away overnight early Saturday morning at his home in Palm Desert, CA -- where he was surrounded by loved ones and caretakers ... this according to Gavin's nephew, Mark See.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sat May 29, 2021 6:30 pm

I don't know what role he was known for most : Captain of the Love Boat or news writer on Mary Tyler Moore. I liked he best in Kelly's Heroes. RIP

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sat May 29, 2021 6:52 pm

Gavin entertained me each weekend at dad's house when The Love Boat came on for many years. He seemed a gentle humorist. I liked him. Goodnight good Captain.

Heres another good link CNN

Hrdina · Post by **Hrdina** » Sun May 30, 2021 6:40 pm

Despite him being the "lead" in Love Boat, I thought he was much funnier in Mary Tyler Moore, especially in any of the scenes that also featured Ted.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Sun May 30, 2021 9:26 pm

dbt1949 wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 6:30 pm I liked he best in Kelly's Heroes. RIP

Will you stop with them negative waves, Moriarty?

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:38 pm

F. Lee Bailey who defended the Boston Strangler, Patty Hearst and O J. Simpson among others, dead at 87.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:41 pm

Wouldn't want to be him right about now.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:50 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 8:41 pm Wouldn't want to be him right about now.

Is there anyone in this thread you'd like to be?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm

Maybe anyone who isn't a lawyer that defends known scum just because its a job

Freyland · Post by **Freyland** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:53 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm Maybe anyone who isn't a lawyer that defends known scum just because its a job

I believe you missed the point.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:00 pm

I remember him as an angel(looking) character in one of the original Star Trek episodes.
So he couldn't have been all bad.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:03 pm

Actually that was Melvin Belli. Same genetic material.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:39 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm Maybe anyone who isn't a lawyer that defends known scum just because its a job

If nobody was willing to do that, our justice system would fail. Quickly.

I don't know anything about this particular guy, but a lot of people who defend criminals do so because they believe in justice and know that it is vital - despite the hatred they get, and despite the emotional toll of trying to keep terrible people out of jail.

Some also game the system to get guilty people off on technicalities. Which... may also be necessary? Or may just be scummy? I don't know. I'm glad it isn't my job to decide how far to go.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:47 pm

I have no problem with lawyers in general. But no one forces anyone to defend someone who shot 3 people on video or such n such stuff. Its more a people thing I dont like.Morals and all I suppose. I guess some are in it for the glory and the money. Yay them I suppose. Just wouldn't want to be them at death and afterlife. Then again Im guessing they dont carry that belief in life or they wouldn't choose those clients.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:26 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:39 pm
Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 10:44 pm Maybe anyone who isn't a lawyer that defends known scum just because its a job
If nobody was willing to do that, our justice system would fail. Quickly.

I don't know anything about this particular guy, but a lot of people who defend criminals do so because they believe in justice and know that it is vital - despite the hatred they get, and despite the emotional toll of trying to keep terrible people out of jail.

Some also game the system to get guilty people off on technicalities. Which... may also be necessary? Or may just be scummy? I don't know. I'm glad it isn't my job to decide how far to go.

A lot about this particular guy. The money quote:

“I get paid for seeing that my clients have every break the law allows,” he once asserted. “I have knowingly defended a number of guilty men. But the guilty never escape unscathed. My fees are sufficient punishment for anyone.”

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 7:13 am

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 11:47 pm I have no problem with lawyers in general. But no one forces anyone to defend someone who shot 3 people on video or such n such stuff. Its more a people thing I dont like.Morals and all I suppose. I guess some are in it for the glory and the money. Yay them I suppose. Just wouldn't want to be them at death and afterlife. Then again Im guessing they dont carry that belief in life or they wouldn't choose those clients.

Lol.
Heaven.
Get a grip my man, there is no such place.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:41 am

Daehawk, what happens to the legal system if the accused can't get representation?

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:02 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:41 am Daehawk, what happens to the legal system if the accused can't get representation?

Not saying that. Saying you should not represent a guilty person. No defense of that.

And Unagi I used to think that. But not so sure these days. Besides Heaven or not why be an asshole or choose to do 'evil' things with other evil people?

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:50 am

Daehawk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 11:02 am
Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 8:41 am Daehawk, what happens to the legal system if the accused can't get representation?
Not saying that. Saying you should not represent a guilty person. No defense of that.

But that's the point of his question. If a guilty person doesn't get representation, then the American legal system falls apart. Criminals have human rights, too. If you value things like freedom from unreasonable search and seizure, then you should value criminal defense lawyers who defend the guilty. If you think that someone arrested for (and yes, guilty of) minor possession should not by default get the maximum sentence, then you should value criminal defense lawyers who defend the guilty. What about someone who killed another person and the prosecution is going for premeditated murder, but the crime wasn't actually premeditated? The accused in that case is guilty of something, but not necessarily what he's been charged with. You need a criminal defense lawyer who is willing to defend the guilty to advocate for that person.

Spoiler:

FYI, that's the current Twitter handle of OO alumnus Tareeq.

McNutt · Post by **McNutt** » Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:08 pm

I have zero issue with someone defending the worst of the worst. That's how the legal system works and the ability to protect even the guilty is good for us all. Everyone deserves a defense. Everyone.