Octopus Overlords

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:06 pm I wonder who will get the movie rights.

I assume that Lifetime has already started filming.

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:06 pm I wonder who will get the movie rights.

I assume that Lifetime has already started filming.

What I like about influencers is that they are the artists currently held in disdain. Actors and poets used to be warned against in polite society, now they are pillars of that society.

Influencers are the old school artists, a little dirty, what do they actually do or produce? They are thought to be a bad influence. But lo, that is the traditional role of the artist. Gabby Petito was an influencer, an artist, and that is why her loss has captured the heart of America.

There are those on the left who, as usual, want to make the media attention given to the death of Petito a symbol of America’s racism. MSNBC’s Joy Reid calls it "missing white women syndrome." CNN’s Don Lemon points to white privilege. It is reductive, dismissive, and ignorant nonsense. It also denies Petito agency for how she chose to live. It is not racism that made her disappearance a cause celebre, it is her spark and creativity.

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:06 pm I wonder who will get the movie rights.

I assume that Lifetime has already started filming.

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:50 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 4:51 pm

Alefroth wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 1:06 pm I wonder who will get the movie rights.

I assume that Lifetime has already started filming.

Nope, Hallmark has the rights.

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:56 pm One of the TV talking heads seemed to say this could be a very tough case to prove. If he's just hiding somewhere, could he get away with it? Is reasonable doubt too high a burden?

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:53 pm Until we know exactly how she was found and if they can figure out if her death was in any way related to something he did, reasonable doubt will be enough. All he has to say is she ran off or they had a fight and she left him and if she was just found dead from exposure or dehydration, that'll be enough.

A coroner in Wyoming confirmed on Tuesday that the body found in the park over the weekend is Gabby Petito, and has ruled that her death was a homicide.

The manner and cause of death are still pending the final autopsy results, the FBI said in a tweet.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:36 pm Also, I don't think it was posted here, but there was another 911 call released from rando passersbys right before the cops incident. They called in saying a dude was slapping a girl (as opposed to the story the couple told the cops, which was the other way around).

I guess we (and the cops) took their word for it that she slapped HIM.

So if that's the case, as often as we have called this guy a dummy, that was pretty savvy move.

Alefroth wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 4:16 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:36 pm Also, I don't think it was posted here, but there was another 911 call released from rando passersbys right before the cops incident. They called in saying a dude was slapping a girl (as opposed to the story the couple told the cops, which was the other way around).

I guess we (and the cops) took their word for it that she slapped HIM.

So if that's the case, as often as we have called this guy a dummy, that was pretty savvy move.

He did have scratch marks on his face.

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Tue Sep 21, 2021 8:17 pm Was she one of the famous influencers? How many people know her before this?

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 3:24 pm Ah, hadn't seen that. If the ME was able to make that determination so quickly, I'd imagine it had to be overwhelmingly violent and easy to determine. Again, the case against him certainly isn't looking good but I don't think it's a slam-dunk yet. Justice would be nice.

• natural
• accident
• suicide
• homicide
• undetermined

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:51 pm

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:56 pm One of the TV talking heads seemed to say this could be a very tough case to prove. If he's just hiding somewhere, could he get away with it? Is reasonable doubt too high a burden?

It's pretty evident that he couldn't hold it together under any sort of questioning and his parents and counsel know it. If he is arrested, it's probably over for him unless his attorney sleeps in the cell.

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:32 pm Any idea why the police didn't just bring him in for questioning before he disappeared?

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 10:32 pm

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 2:51 pm

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Wed Sep 22, 2021 1:56 pm One of the TV talking heads seemed to say this could be a very tough case to prove. If he's just hiding somewhere, could he get away with it? Is reasonable doubt too high a burden?

It's pretty evident that he couldn't hold it together under any sort of questioning and his parents and counsel know it. If he is arrested, it's probably over for him unless his attorney sleeps in the cell.

Any idea why the police didn't just bring him in for questioning before he disappeared?

Unagi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:16 pm So this is likely “the use of her debit card”, or something like that....?

malchior wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:30 pm

Unagi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:16 pm So this is likely “the use of her debit card”, or something like that....?

My guess is they have enough timeline established to say he used her cards after her death.

Unagi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:16 pm So this is likely “the use of her debit card”, or something like that....?

In the last text message Gabby Petito’s mother received from her daughter’s phone number, Gabby’s grandfather was referred to as “Stan.”

According to a warrant, that text was a red flag for her mother because Petito never refers to her grandfather by his first name.

Her mother told investigators the Aug. 27 text message read: “Can you help Stan, I just keep getting his voicemails and missed calls.”

The text was the first sign that her daughter may be in trouble while on a cross-country trip with her boyfriend Brian Laundrie. Petito’s mother has said she believes her daughter did not send the last text she received from her, a text that was sent three days after she last spoke with her family.

dbt1949 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:42 pm So that's what that warrant says?

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:04 am

Unagi wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:16 pm So this is likely “the use of her debit card”, or something like that....?

Or used her phone? Is that a crime?

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:06 am

dbt1949 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 23, 2021 11:42 pm So that's what that warrant says?

The warrant says:

Use of Unauthorized Access Devices

dbt1949 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:36 am

Victoria Raverna wrote: ↑Fri Sep 24, 2021 12:06 am The warrant says:

Use of Unauthorized Access Devices

My bad. I meant what does that mean? Like her credit cards?

Unauthorized use of any type of access device entity such as a debit or credit card issued to another individual is a crime if the prosecution can prove that the defendant intentionally used the card to pay for goods and services or obtain money.

"The reason I went to Mr. [Christopher] Laundrie is I carry a reputation with me," he told Fox News Digital moments later. "The reputation is, ‘He gives you a second chance. He’s gonna get you, but he gives you a second chance.’"