NCAA Football 2021

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:58 pm

So if we get:

1. Michigan
2. Bama
3. Georgia
4. Cincy

It would mean Michigan gets Cincy in the first round with an excellent chance to meet the survivor of Bama/GA 2 in the championship game.

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:06 am

I would guess they will put Bama at #1 or UGA #4 to avoid the rematch.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am

I am thinking:

1. Bama
2. Mich
3. UGA
4. Cincy

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:15 am

Is there a compelling reason to avoid the rematch?

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:19 am

JCC wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:06 am I would guess they will put Bama at #1 or UGA #4 to avoid the rematch.

That is what I imagine will happen.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:20 am

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:15 am Is there a compelling reason to avoid the rematch?

If it happens in the championship game then fine, but back to back, no thank you.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:10 pm

I made a nice little haul yesterday taking the $$ of my Georgia relatives and my brother. I pocketed a $100. I rarely put money on the line for games but I saw this result coming a mile away. I tried to prepare my brother after Alabama beat Auburn but he was convinced that game showed Alabama would have no chance. It told me the opposite.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:58 pm

Skinypupy wrote:
Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:49 pm BYU undefeated vs the Pac-12
Trust me, they remind us of that every. single. day.

You'll have to drill down, but this is hilarious!

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:04 pm

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 3:39 pm

BYU in the weed eater bowl...

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 4:07 pm

Snert

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:46 pm

Lassr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am I am thinking:

1. Bama
2. Mich
3. UGA
4. Cincy

You nailed it!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:01 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 6:46 pm
Lassr wrote: ↑Sun Dec 05, 2021 12:13 am I am thinking:

1. Bama
2. Mich
3. UGA
4. Cincy
You nailed it!

99% of punditry had no Bama/UGA matchup in the first round.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:35 am

I am of course in no way biased on the topic, but I probably would have swapped Alabama and Michigan. Alabama had a stronger schedule overall, but Michigan's loss was better and I think the final 2 weeks for Michigan outshone the final 2 weeks for Alabama. Of course, I might have also bumped Georgia down to 4 and moved Cincinnati to 3 which would have ended up with the same matchups anyway.

I'm guessing Young locked up the Heisman on Saturday, which leaves us to guess who else gets invited. I'm thinking Stroud, Hutchinson, and Walker, although his star seems to have faded down the stretch. Would be neat to have 3 Big Ten guys there, but I haven't been paying super close attention to the race.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:27 pm

As expected, Miami fired Manny Diaz today. Mario Cristobal from Oregon is expected to take that job.

Good.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:31 pm

Woo hoo! We’re going to the Duke’s Mayo Bowl!
LOL

Similarly amusing: Beef O’Brady and Tony the Tiger bowls were also on the menu.

When will Tampax, Trojan, Marlboro and Astro-Glide get bowls? MOAR. BOWLS11!!!!!! Every hole gets a bowl!

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:01 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:31 pm Woo hoo! We’re going to the Duke’s Mayo Bowl!
LOL

Similarly amusing: Beef O’Brady and Tony the Tiger bowls were also on the menu.

When will Tampax, Trojan, Marlboro and Astro-Glide get bowls? MOAR. BOWLS11!!!!!! Every hole gets a bowl!

My friend (Auburn fan) was at the Iron Bowl and sat next to the rep from Duke Mayo bowl and asked him "are we going to the Duke Mayo Bowl?"
Rep said either Auburn or South Carolina.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:06 pm

He wasn’t wrong!

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 2:14 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 1:31 pm Woo hoo! We’re going to the Duke’s Mayo Bowl!
LOL

Similarly amusing: Beef O’Brady and Tony the Tiger bowls were also on the menu.

When will Tampax, Trojan, Marlboro and Astro-Glide get bowls? MOAR. BOWLS11!!!!!! Every hole gets a bowl!

North Carolina vs. South Carolina playing for Duke's.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 5:12 pm

Yeeeeeeeee-hawwwwwwww!

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Dec 06, 2021 11:41 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 12:27 pm As expected, Miami fired Manny Diaz today. Mario Cristobal from Oregon is expected to take that job.

Good.

ESPN

Oregon lost three commitments on Monday after it was announced Mario Cristobal was no longer the Ducks' head coach. ESPN 300 offensive tackle Kelvin Banks, quarterback Tanner Bailey and linebacker T.J. Dudley all announced they were no longer committed to Oregon.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:06 am

Kayvon Thibidaux also declared for the draft before the bowl game.

Will OU-Oregon have any players left to play in the Alamo bowl?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Dec 07, 2021 12:20 am

There are lots of rumors from the Utah side that with Cristobal bolting, Oregon LB Noah Sewell may want to come back to Utah and play next to his brother next year. That’d be a hell of a replacement for our current all-everything LB Devin Lloyd, but may just be wishful thinking.

Also lots of rumblings that DE Gabe Reid from Stanford might be headed Utah’s way. He entered the portal yesterday, and is one of Britain Covey’s best friends and brother of one of Utahs current backup LBs.

If we could somehow land both of those dudes…

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:41 am

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 06, 2021 10:35 am I'm guessing Young locked up the Heisman on Saturday, which leaves us to guess who else gets invited. I'm thinking Stroud, Hutchinson, and Walker, although his star seems to have faded down the stretch. Would be neat to have 3 Big Ten guys there, but I haven't been paying super close attention to the race.

I got 3 of 4 right. Swap out MSU RB Kenneth Walker III for Pitt QB Kenny Pickett. Pickett appears to have the gaudy numbers to justify his inclusion, but I don't really know anything about him. It'd be nice to get more than 3 QBs and a token defensive player on the final list, but that's what the award seems to be these days. On the plus side, it's amusing seeing how upset MSU fans are that Walker got snubbed while Hutchinson made it.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 9:08 pm

Seems like a weird hire for such a high profile job. But wait…

Strong work, Oregon.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:49 pm

Skinypupy wrote:

Seems like a weird hire for such a high profile job. But wait…

Strong work, Oregon.

All the buzz is that this is now confirmed.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:08 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 6:49 pm All the buzz is that this is now confirmed.

In an off-season of big coaching moves and massive salaries, and coming off what I can only assume was one of the more disappointing seasons in recent memory, this is a really weird hire. Not that he’s necessarily bad (I know nothing about him), but bringing in a guy with zero head coaching experience and no ties to the west coast? A guy whose name I hadn’t heard mentioned as a serious candidate for any other high profile job? It’s just…strange and seems like a huge risk. I can’t imagine Ducks fans are thrilled about this hire.

Not that I’m complaining, mind you. I’d love for Oregon who wallow in mediocrity for a while (and yes, I know that a strong Oregon program is better for the conference).

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:23 pm

Thought I heard that he had coached for Oregon previously. Can't remember tho.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:48 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Sat Dec 11, 2021 9:23 pm Thought I heard that he had coached for Oregon previously. Can't remember tho.

From Wiki:

Dan Lanning (born April 10, 1986) is an American football coach and a former player. He is the head football coach at the University of Oregon. Lanning served as the defensive coordinator and outside linebackers coach at the University of Georgia from 2019 to 2021.

Lanning played college football at William Jewell College as a linebacker from 2004 to 2007. Prior to his tenure at Oregon, he held various assistant coaching positions at Park Hill South High School in Kansas City, Missouri, the University of Pittsburgh, Arizona State University, Sam Houston State University, the University of Alabama, the University of Memphis and the University of Georgia.

Xmann · Post by **Xmann** » Sun Dec 12, 2021 12:00 pm

As a Tennessee fan and supporter, this is a hire that can be dangerous. Hiring someone to a high profile and successful program without prior head coaching experience can easily backfire. Ask us Tennessee fans how that worked for our program.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:46 am

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:19 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:46 am

Gotta love East Coast bias. Given *everything* Utah Coach Whittingham has had to navigate this year, he's the guy in my book. Kudos to Big Blue tho - great seasons by both coaches.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:27 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:19 pm
ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:46 am
Gotta love East Coast bias. Given *everything* Utah Coach Whittingham has had to navigate this year, he's the guy in my book. Kudos to Big Blue tho - great seasons by both coaches.

Can I offer you a map?

Seriously, though, you could make an argument for a number of coaches (Luke Fickell belongs in the conversation, too). Harbaugh, though, had just taken a hugely restructured contract (salary cut in half with minimal buyout), had completely lost fan confidence, and was considered likely to be canned if things didn't improve dramatically after last year's debacle. He remade his coaching staff and led Michigan to the CFP coming off of a 2-4 season. It's hard to argue against that.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:33 pm

Let's see, two players killed by gunshots, a 1-2 start and then taking Utah to its first Conference Championship and Rose Bowl ever?

vs a team which has won multiple Nattys finally making the playoffs, but with marginal adversity off the field.

I appreciate what Harbaugh, Fickell et al have done on the field, but it's the off the field tragedy and how Coach Whittingham guided the program, and aided the entire University which really stands out to me. The on-the-field achievements are comparable (I can even see the arguments that Mich/Cincy are more noteworthy), but it's the tragedy off the field which puts Whitt over the top for me.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 2:58 pm

I would agree, but I'm not exactly unbiased here.

One strike against Whit is his decision to not start Cam Rising from the get-go, which led to the 1-2 start. I do get why he did it (Brewer brought a ton of experience from Baylor and Rising's surgically repaired shoulder wasn't quite ready to go at the start of the season), but that decision likely cost Utah a chance at the CFP this year.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:17 pm

First of all, can we please retire calling national championships "Nattys"? God, I hate that term. It's almost as bad as calling touchdowns "Tuddies".

Second, I acknowledged that multiple people have good arguments for it, and I really have little interest in comparing resumes to see who is more deserving. I'm not going to try to downplay what Whit did to try to prove a point. There are 130 or so teams in FBS, and you'll almost always be able to argue that multiple coaches are deserving of the honor. Diminishing Harbaugh's win as "East Coast Bias" is just silly, though. (Maybe Midwest Bias?)

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:55 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:17 pm First of all, can we please retire calling national championships "Nattys"? God, I hate that term. It's almost as bad as calling touchdowns "Tuddies".

Fortunately I have never heard either term and hopefully never will.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:09 pm

I think Harbaugh got the nod because Michigan was not supposed to be even good based on pre-season polls. And let’s face it, the B10 is a much tougher conference than the Pac12.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:40 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:17 pm First of all, can we please retire calling national championships "Nattys"? God, I hate that term. It's almost as bad as calling touchdowns "Tuddies".

Second, I acknowledged that multiple people have good arguments for it, and I really have little interest in comparing resumes to see who is more deserving. I'm not going to try to downplay what Whit did to try to prove a point. There are 130 or so teams in FBS, and you'll almost always be able to argue that multiple coaches are deserving of the honor. Diminishing Harbaugh's win as "East Coast Bias" is just silly, though. (Maybe Midwest Bias?)

Fair enough. Tho my real pet peeve nowadays is the color commentary "easy pitch and catch".

That needs to go on the banned list!

JCC · Post by **JCC** » Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:00 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:55 pm
ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Dec 13, 2021 3:17 pm First of all, can we please retire calling national championships "Nattys"? God, I hate that term. It's almost as bad as calling touchdowns "Tuddies".
Fortunately I have never heard either term and hopefully never will.

Yes, I have never, ever heard either terms. Had never read them until your post. I think you may secretly be working for them!