NFL 2019 - 20 Season with Playoffs
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That was niner's game to win. They held the chiefs in check for 3 quarters, but gave up two costly passes in the 4th. Can't blame anyone but themselves. I do have issue with the so called offensive interference call in the 1st half, and the TD in the 4th where the player's foot was out of bounds. But still didn't matter, niners gave up in the 4th.
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The TD was incredibly close. It looked to me like the nose of the ball was barely touching the front of the goalline when his foot went out. Whatever they called on the field would have stood.
But yeah, that offensive PI was a ticky-tack call.
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Victorious Patrick Mahomes Thanks Bears For Drafting Mitchell Trubisky.
This feels like it was written specifically to troll ImLawBoy.MIAMI—Crediting general manager Ryan Pace for playing an instrumental role in advancing his career, Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes thanked the Chicago Bears Sunday for selecting Mitchell Trubisky instead of him in the 2017 NFL Draft. “I would’ve never had this opportunity to compete for a championship if I had ended up on the Bears,” said Mahomes during a post-game interview, expressing his gratitude to the Chicago franchise for sparing him from years of mediocrity and career frustration. “There were some tense moments on draft day when it looked like I might be headed to Chicago, but luckily God had other plans for me. Instead of lifting this trophy, I could be languishing at the bottom of the NFC North and running for my life after every snap behind a terrible offensive line. I’m so glad I get to throw to Tyreek (Hill) and Sammy (Watkins) my whole career instead of whoever the hell is on the Bears.” Mahomes added that he only hopes all the current Bears players get as lucky as he did.
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El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:05 am Victorious Patrick Mahomes Thanks Bears For Drafting Mitchell Trubisky.
This feels like it was written specifically to troll ImLawBoy.MIAMI—Crediting general manager Ryan Pace for playing an instrumental role in advancing his career, Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes thanked the Chicago Bears Sunday for selecting Mitchell Trubisky instead of him in the 2017 NFL Draft. “I would’ve never had this opportunity to compete for a championship if I had ended up on the Bears,” said Mahomes during a post-game interview, expressing his gratitude to the Chicago franchise for sparing him from years of mediocrity and career frustration. “There were some tense moments on draft day when it looked like I might be headed to Chicago, but luckily God had other plans for me. Instead of lifting this trophy, I could be languishing at the bottom of the NFC North and running for my life after every snap behind a terrible offensive line. I’m so glad I get to throw to Tyreek (Hill) and Sammy (Watkins) my whole career instead of whoever the hell is on the Bears.” Mahomes added that he only hopes all the current Bears players get as lucky as he did.
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There is a Kansas City, Kansas! But the Chiefs (and Royals) don't play there.
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I'm a national punchline!El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:05 am Victorious Patrick Mahomes Thanks Bears For Drafting Mitchell Trubisky.
This feels like it was written specifically to troll ImLawBoy.MIAMI—Crediting general manager Ryan Pace for playing an instrumental role in advancing his career, Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes thanked the Chicago Bears Sunday for selecting Mitchell Trubisky instead of him in the 2017 NFL Draft. “I would’ve never had this opportunity to compete for a championship if I had ended up on the Bears,” said Mahomes during a post-game interview, expressing his gratitude to the Chicago franchise for sparing him from years of mediocrity and career frustration. “There were some tense moments on draft day when it looked like I might be headed to Chicago, but luckily God had other plans for me. Instead of lifting this trophy, I could be languishing at the bottom of the NFC North and running for my life after every snap behind a terrible offensive line. I’m so glad I get to throw to Tyreek (Hill) and Sammy (Watkins) my whole career instead of whoever the hell is on the Bears.” Mahomes added that he only hopes all the current Bears players get as lucky as he did.
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It was obvious offensive pass interference. It was full arm extention and I fully expected the flag as it was happening.
Also, it was a touchdown.
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San Fran got what they deserved when they let off the gas at the end of the second quarter. They could have gotten the ball back with plenty of time and just wanted to head for the hills.
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Eh. We've all seen far worse not called. If he defender was taller, I'm betting it doesn't get called. The size difference made it seem more egregious than it was.noxiousdog wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:54 amIt was obvious offensive pass interference. It was full arm extention and I fully expected the flag as it was happening.
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I thought it was offensive PI in real time, but I've certainly seen more egregious pass interference not get called.
I was less thrilled with the defensive PI called on SF when Kelce was in the end zone. Sure, the defender wasn't facing the ball, but it didn't really look like he was in much contact with Kelce before the ball got there (hit his leg?). Once that was called, it seemed inevitable the Chiefs were going to win the game, even though they were still down 10.
I was less thrilled with the defensive PI called on SF when Kelce was in the end zone. Sure, the defender wasn't facing the ball, but it didn't really look like he was in much contact with Kelce before the ball got there (hit his leg?). Once that was called, it seemed inevitable the Chiefs were going to win the game, even though they were still down 10.
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Given the tweet above from our Commander in Chief, I think that title has already been taken.ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:32 amI'm a national punchline!El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:05 am Victorious Patrick Mahomes Thanks Bears For Drafting Mitchell Trubisky.
This feels like it was written specifically to troll ImLawBoy.MIAMI—Crediting general manager Ryan Pace for playing an instrumental role in advancing his career, Super Bowl champion Patrick Mahomes thanked the Chicago Bears Sunday for selecting Mitchell Trubisky instead of him in the 2017 NFL Draft. “I would’ve never had this opportunity to compete for a championship if I had ended up on the Bears,” said Mahomes during a post-game interview, expressing his gratitude to the Chicago franchise for sparing him from years of mediocrity and career frustration. “There were some tense moments on draft day when it looked like I might be headed to Chicago, but luckily God had other plans for me. Instead of lifting this trophy, I could be languishing at the bottom of the NFC North and running for my life after every snap behind a terrible offensive line. I’m so glad I get to throw to Tyreek (Hill) and Sammy (Watkins) my whole career instead of whoever the hell is on the Bears.” Mahomes added that he only hopes all the current Bears players get as lucky as he did.
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The PI in the endzone will get called every single time. He ran into Kelce with his back turned to the ball.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:38 am I thought it was offensive PI in real time, but I've certainly seen more egregious pass interference not get called.
I was less thrilled with the defensive PI called on SF when Kelce was in the end zone. Sure, the defender wasn't facing the ball, but it didn't really look like he was in much contact with Kelce before the ball got there (hit his leg?). Once that was called, it seemed inevitable the Chiefs were going to win the game, even though they were still down 10.
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Well, sure, but that doesn't change the fact it was OPI. We shouldn't criticize the refs for getting one right.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:33 am Eh. We've all seen far worse not called. If he defender was taller, I'm betting it doesn't get called. The size difference made it seem more egregious than it was.
Also, I thought it was a very well officiated game.
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Officiating was fine. It's more of an NFL rules problem than a problem with the refs in that particular game or refs at all.noxiousdog wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:44 amWell, sure, but that doesn't change the fact it was OPI. We shouldn't criticize the refs for getting one right.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:33 am Eh. We've all seen far worse not called. If he defender was taller, I'm betting it doesn't get called. The size difference made it seem more egregious than it was.
Also, I thought it was a very well officiated game.
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There was officiating at the game? Not a single holding call, nothing for helmet to helmet contact or blows to the QBs’ heads.
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I wish every game was called like the Super Bowls are. They let a lot more slide for sure. One the of the reasons I don't watch football much anymore is the endless penalties.
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Wasn't there one holding on a kick/punt return? Maybe it was something else.
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Yes, there was.
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I have no problem with "let them play." The problem of course is inconsistency, and when a penalty is called it seems out of the blue.
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Wasn't there a call just like it in one of the championship playoff games? Pushing off, and getting caught, is OPI.
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And that type of call normally doesn't get called in playoffs. Sure if it was more blatent, but that was pretty weak.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:38 am I thought it was offensive PI in real time, but I've certainly seen more egregious pass interference not get called.
I was less thrilled with the defensive PI called on SF when Kelce was in the end zone. Sure, the defender wasn't facing the ball, but it didn't really look like he was in much contact with Kelce before the ball got there (hit his leg?). Once that was called, it seemed inevitable the Chiefs were going to win the game, even though they were still down 10.
With that said, overall officiating was fine. I just felt that penalty was suspect. And I'm not blaming refs for the loss, that was all niners.
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I thought that call falls under the idea, I won't call it a rule since I can't quote the rule, that both players are allowed to play the ball. In that case the defender was doing nothing but trying to block the receiver from making a play for the ball. The defender himself was clearly not playing the ball. If the defender had turned around to play the ball then that's no interference even if he's still in the exact same spot.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:38 am I thought it was offensive PI in real time, but I've certainly seen more egregious pass interference not get called.
I was less thrilled with the defensive PI called on SF when Kelce was in the end zone. Sure, the defender wasn't facing the ball, but it didn't really look like he was in much contact with Kelce before the ball got there (hit his leg?). Once that was called, it seemed inevitable the Chiefs were going to win the game, even though they were still down 10.
I thought the Niners tight end did commit offensive pass interference. However I will also agree that's one of those plays that sometimes gets called, sometimes doesn't. He has long arms and his arm was extended so maybe it looks worse when he does it.
On the sideline touchdown, I didn't see any clear indication on the replays that he didn't make it. Since the call on the field was he did make it then the call should stand. His toes were definitely on the line, but what is not clear from any of those angles is where the tip of the ball is at the moment right before his toes go out of bounds. Remember, any part of the ball crosses the plane of the goal line and it's a touchdown.
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Tell that to Dez Bryant.
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That's 100% fair, but at the same time the vagueness of NFL rules makes consistency virtually impossible.
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Isn't that kind of par for the course in pro sports? I don't think the NBA still knows what a travel is for example.
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MLB's rules always seem hyper-precise. "If a player with last name beginning with "B" throws a pitch low on an afternoon game in May, it shall be a ball".Lorini wrote: ↑Mon Feb 03, 2020 11:51 pmIsn't that kind of par for the course in pro sports? I don't think the NBA still knows what a travel is for example.
But yes, it is in general hard to make detailed enough rules, it just seems like the NFL is the worst case of this.
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