Secret Hitler

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:45 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:The ticket Vorret/El Guapo has been nominated.
Everyone must now PM me exactly one word: either "YES" or "NO".
You are free to say anything or nothing about your vote; I will not disclose who voted how.

Correction. I WILL reveal who voted "YES" and who voted "NO". That's one of the signals in this game.

The sole purpose of running the votes privately through me is to achieve simultaneous revelation so one vote cannot influence another. From da Rulez Post:

As soon the moderator has received a vote from every player, the moderator will post a list, in seating order, of the players and their votes.

Anyone who has already voted and who would like to change that vote in light of this clarification may do so (just this once).

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:55 pm

Vote early vote often!

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:56 pm

I voted for myself.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:04 am

Scoop20906 wrote:I voted for myself.

Then you got at least 2 votes.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:09 am

Update: I have received 7/9 votes.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 11:43 am

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:27 pm

Moliere wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I voted for myself.
Then you got at least 2 votes.

Hey, you are not supposed to know I voted for Scoop! Did you use your secret Hitler powers?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:49 pm

bb2112 wrote:
Moliere wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I voted for myself.
Then you got at least 2 votes.
Hey, you are not supposed to know I voted for Scoop! Did you use your secret Hitler powers?

I am very liberal in my praise of Scoop20906.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 1:00 pm

Moliere wrote:
bb2112 wrote:
Moliere wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:I voted for myself.
Then you got at least 2 votes.
Hey, you are not supposed to know I voted for Scoop! Did you use your secret Hitler powers?
I am very liberal in my praise of Scoop20906.

As you should be.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:37 pm

I can just vote for the 9th guy. I mean, I can't imagine anyone voting against me anyway.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:06 pm

OK....

First, there was a straggler but in the course of moving from work to home (for the Big Storm), I misremembered who it was and prompted the wrong person. Sorry.

Once prompted, the straggler voted.

Election results:
Everyone: YES

President Vorret will now draw three cards from the shuffled Policy Deck. (I have shuffled the deck with Random.org. I will PM the top 3 cards to Vorret).
Vorret will privately discard one card and pass two to Chancellor El Guapo. (Vorret will PM me the two he wishes to pass, and I'll PM them to El Guapo).
Chancellor El Guapo will then choose one of those two policy cards and announce his selection in-thread (notionally "discarding" the other-- I'll keep track of the state of the deck).

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:10 pm

NOTE: Neither the President nor the Chancellor may post until the Chancellor has officially enacted a policy!

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:12 pm

So Vorret will know 3 cards, El Guapo will know 2 and we will be told 1 and then they can tell us whatever they was about the other cards.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:19 pm

I vow that the Guapo administration will be nothing but honest.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:19 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:NOTE: Neither the President nor the Chancellor may post until the Chancellor has officially enacted a policy!

Whoops! Starting...now.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:20 pm

stessier wrote:So Vorret will know 3 cards, El Guapo will know 2 and we will be told 1 and then they can tell us whatever they was about the other cards.

So if it comes out as a fascist policy we know who to blame.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:37 pm

stessier wrote:So Vorret will know 3 cards, El Guapo will know 2 and we will be told 1 and then they can tell us whatever they was about the other cards.

Correct. They can tell us whatever they was.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 3:38 pm

Everyone stare at Vorret.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:17 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:18 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:20 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:21 pm

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:33 pm

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 4:34 pm

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:39 pm

Now everyone stare at El Guapo...

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:44 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:45 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:45 pm

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:47 pm

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:47 pm

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 5:57 pm

Normally we'd wait for the Chancellor to post his selection in-thread. But since he notified me privately, I'll take the liberty of announcing his choice so we can move forward.

El Guapo enacts a LIBERAL POLICY!

Here's where we stand:

Final Roster

bb2112 <----- The new Presidential Nominee
Chaosraven
El Guapo
Holman
Molière
Remus West
Scoop20906
stessier
Vorret

9 players:

5 Liberals
3 normal Fascists
1 Hitler Fascist

The Liberal Policy Track

Policies passed: 1
Elections whiffed: 0

The Fascist Policy Track

1st Policy Passed (President investigates another's identity)? No
2nd Policy Passed (President investigates another's identity)? No
3rd Policy Passed (President selects the next Presidential candidate)? No
4th Policy Passed (President orders an assassination)? No
5th Policy Passed (President orders an assassination)? No
6th Policy Passed (Fascist Victory)? No

Deck contains: 11 Fascist Policies and 6 Liberal Policies, shuffled.
Deck count:14
Discard count: 2

Action on bb2112: please nominate a Chancellor. The nominee may not be a member of the set {Vorret, El Guapo}.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:22 pm

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:24 pm

I would like to hear from our government.

Vorret: What cards did you draw?

El Guapo: What cards were passed to you?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:32 pm

I'm interested too, but I don't think we need to wait for that info before nominating someone.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:33 pm

Chaos is the next president and El Guapo can't be nominated. Would it make sense to nominate Holman?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:42 pm

stessier wrote:Chaos is the next president and El Guapo can't be nominated. Would it make sense to nominate Holman?

Grundbegriff wrote:[*]bb2112 <----- The new Presidential Nominee

Are you thinking to nominate the next in line (Chaosraven) for Chancellor?

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:43 pm

Holman wrote:I would like to hear from our government.

Vorret: What cards did you draw?

El Guapo: What cards were passed to you?

Who wants to volunteer to manage the chart showing who was on the ticket when various policies were nominated?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:45 pm

No, I think we skip Chaos.

Odds are El Guapo did not have two Liberal policies to choose from, so it's likely he is a Liberal. Chaos is next. If we choose him Chancellor now and he is a Fascist, he will have two consecutive turns to screw us. If, however, we choose Holman now, then we can choose El Guapo on Chaos' turn, then on El Guapo's turn, he can choose Holman again if we like what happens this turn, or avoid him and choose someone else.

I don't know, maybe that won't work at all, but worth a shot.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:48 pm

Something like this?

...Admin...	...President...	...Chancellor...	...Enacted...
...Vorret / El Guapo...	X Lib / Y Fas	X Lib / Y Fas	...Liberal...

Administration = President / Chancellor
President = Options President declares he had
Chancellor = Options Chancellor declares he had
Enacted = Policy chosen

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:55 pm

stessier wrote:No, I think we skip Chaos.

Odds are El Guapo did not have two Liberal policies to choose from, so it's likely he is a Liberal. Chaos is next. If we choose him Chancellor now and he is a Fascist, he will have two consecutive turns to screw us. If, however, we choose Holman now, then we can choose El Guapo on Chaos' turn, then on El Guapo's turn, he can choose Holman again if we like what happens this turn, or avoid him and choose someone else.

I don't know, maybe that won't work at all, but worth a shot.

Unless they get unlucky cards. It's quite likely that liberals are going to get stuck with fascist only policy cards and be made to look bad. Or lie about the cards they had to play with. This could especially be true of 2 fascists are paired together and conspire about which cards they had to choose from.