Political Randomness

[Dogstar]

Conservative state rep tries to stir up trouble over busses… and then rightfully gets dunked on by the internet.

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[LordMortis]

What an ass

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/28/politics ... index.html

Hundreds of social media users quickly disputed Maddock’s post on Wednesday, but Maddock refused to concede. He replied to one of the many people who pointed out the plane and buses were likely for NCAA basketball teams: “Sure kommie. Good talking point.”

Maddock continued to dig in on Thursday morning. He wrote a new post saying, “We know this is happening” and that hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants are “pouring into our country.” He added: “Since we can’t trust the #FakeNews to investigate, citizens will. The process of investigating these issues takes time.”

And his constituency will still vote for his election denying, reality denying, law breaking, fake elector promoting, lying, "considering" treason ass.

[Alefroth]

Ignoring the racism, why would illegal invaders have police escort?

[Daehawk]

All this stupid shit is happening and I cant even afford a hotdog for another week at the least. Great country leadership.

[Zarathud]

Ignoring the racism, why would illegal invaders have police escort?

Blame Texas.

[Alefroth]

Good advice any time.

[Blackhawk]

Time's have changed
Invaders cross the moat
They won't obey the cops
They just want to rape and vote

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the fake news on TV?

No, blame Texas, yeah, blame Texas, yeah
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full of lies

No, blame Texas yeah, blame Texas, yeah
We need to form a full assault
It's all Texas's fault

[Jaymann]

Time's have changed
Invaders cross the moat
They won't obey the cops
They just want to rape and vote

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the fake news on TV?

No, blame Texas, yeah, blame Texas, yeah
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full of lies

No, blame Texas yeah, blame Texas, yeah
We need to form a full assault
It's all Texas's fault

Set to Suno AI music (punk):
https://app.suno.ai/song/1379fd5b-f2c2- ... afe95c8d58

[Isgrimnur]

US changes how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity. It’s the first revision in 27 years

For the first time in 27 years, the U.S. government is changing how it categorizes people by race and ethnicity, an effort that federal officials believe will more accurately count residents who identify as Hispanic and of Middle Eastern and North African heritage.

The revisions to the minimum categories on race and ethnicity, announced Thursday by the Office of Management and Budget, are the latest effort to label and define the people of the United States. This evolving process often reflects changes in social attitudes and immigration, as well as a wish for people in an increasingly diverse society to see themselves in the numbers produced by the federal government.

“You can’t underestimate the emotional impact this has on people,” said Meeta Anand, senior director for Census & Data Equity at The Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. “It’s how we conceive ourselves as a society. ... You are seeing a desire for people to want to self-identify and be reflected in data so they can tell their own stories.”

Under the revisions, questions about race and ethnicity that previously were asked separately on forms will be combined into a single question. That will give respondents the option to pick multiple categories at the same time, such as “Black,” “American Indian” and “Hispanic.” Research has shown that large numbers of Hispanic people aren’t sure how to answer the race question when that question is asked separately because they understand race and ethnicity to be similar and they often pick “some other race” or do not answer the question.

A Middle Eastern and North African category will be added to the choices available for questions about race and ethnicity. People descended from places such as Lebanon, Iran, Egypt and Syria had been encouraged to identify as white, but now will have the option of identifying themselves in the new group. Results from the 2020 census, which asked respondents to elaborate on their backgrounds, suggest that 3.5 million residents identify as Middle Eastern and North African.

[Blackhawk]

Time's have changed
Invaders cross the moat
They won't obey the cops
They just want to rape and vote

Should we blame the government?
Or blame society?
Or should we blame the fake news on TV?

No, blame Texas, yeah, blame Texas, yeah
With all their beady little eyes
And flappin' heads so full of lies

No, blame Texas yeah, blame Texas, yeah
We need to form a full assault
It's all Texas's fault

Set to Suno AI music (punk):
https://app.suno.ai/song/1379fd5b-f2c2- ... afe95c8d58

Nice.

But it really is more of a show tune.

[LawBeefaroni]

Ignoring the racism, why would illegal invaders have police escort?

Because the deep state is using migrants as the tip of the sword. They're importing them, arming them, giving them police jobs, and dispersing them throughout the US to be ready to fight on their behalf when the 2024 election fraud attempts to unseat Trump from his rightful place as president. A police escort is just proof that they have the backing of deep state [if you believe this nonsense], which is why Maddock is pointing it out.

And no, I'm not joking. This is a fairly common theme on the far right. It's a continuation/evolution of the George-Soros-is-funding-migrants to destabilize the US conspiracy theory from a few years ago.

[Kraken]

Huh. I had no idea but it all checks out. thanks.

[Punisher]

Can someone please explain exactly what deep staye means? I see it a lot but don't actually know what it's supposed to mean.

[Kraken]

Can someone please explain exactly what deep staye means? I see it a lot but don't actually know what it's supposed to mean.

Basically, the civil service. All the government employees who weren't elected and just show up every day to do their jobs.

[Punisher]

Can someone please explain exactly what deep staye means? I see it a lot but don't actually know what it's supposed to mean.

Basically, the civil service. All the government employees who weren't elected and just show up every day to do their jobs.

Like police, firefighters, ems, DPW, etc?

[Alefroth]

Yep. The same people who shut down the FSK bridge in 4 minutes saving numerous lives.

[Punisher]

Ahh. So short version sounds like if someone complains about the deep staye taking over chances are they are a nutter.
I've personally been a part of 2 of those, EMS and law enforcement, and never heard any of my compatriots discuss taking anything over...well except the local diner after a long shift...
Granted its a small data point but I'd still say it's very unlikely to happen.

[Blackhawk]

Traditionally it referred to a secret government. Highly placed members of the government, industry leaders, financial big-wigs, members of the CIA and other alphabet agencies, and whoever else the current theory assigns - think the Illuminati and that sort of thing.

The Trumpian usage applies it to anybody who works for the government who doesn't have a set term (IE - permanent members of the government), from the top on down. In practice, it more commonly means people in the government that Trump doesn't control and/or are not supportive of Trump. It's a sort of dismissive term used as a counter to whatever argument is being used against Trumpians. Trump lost? Deep state. Trump facing charges? Deep state. A governor refused to back a Trump claim? Member of the deep state. Someone on Fox said that fewer people received political fliers from Republicans? Clearly it's because the Post Office is an arm of the deep state. It means whatever the idiots using it need it to mean.

[Smoove_B]

It means whatever the idiots using it need it to mean.

Like Antifa.

[Blackhawk]

Oh, there's the snowflake groomer!

[LordMortis]

Can someone please explain exactly what deep staye means? I see it a lot but don't actually know what it's supposed to mean.

Basically, the civil service. All the government employees who weren't elected and just show up every day to do their jobs.

Like TFG... No. Wait. He never did his job...

[Punisher]

new question.
I've seen that TFG a lot.. I'm assuming it's referring to Trump, but what does it stand for? It's not his initials...

[LordMortis]

Consensus is "The Former Guy" as stated by Biden. To me, it reads as That Fuckin' Guy . Grown out of "Don't be that guy" from decades ago. Always has and always will.

[Unagi]

I always say "That Florida Guy" in my head

[Alefroth]

Tha fuckin' gawd.

[Pyperkub]

India seems like it could well be our future...

The basic premise of the book is that India is broken. How so?

Indian elites who live first-world lives and their international counterparts tell a very upbeat story about India, relying on whacky techno-optimism and using superficial indicators.

I have long felt that that upbeat story is completely divorced from the lived reality of the vast majority of Indians. I wanted to write a book about that lived reality, about jobs, education, healthcare, the cities Indians live in, the justice system they encounter, the air they breathe, the water they drink. And when you look at India through that lens of that reality, the progress is halting at best and far removed from the aspirations of people and what might have been.

India is broken in the sense that for hundreds of millions of Indians, jobs are hard to get, and education and health care are poor. The justice system is coercive and brutal. The air quality remains extraordinarily poor. The rivers are dying. And it's not clear that things are going to get better.

Underlying that brokenness, social norms and public accountability have eroded to a point where India seems to be in a catch-22: Unaccountable politicians do not impose accountability on themselves; therefore, no one has an incentive to impose accountability for policy priorities that might benefit large numbers of people. The elite are happy in their gated first-world communities. They shrug their shoulders and say, “What exactly is the problem?”

I do fear that this is the future the US is hurtling towards as well. At least on the GOP side.

[Isgrimnur]

I look forward to living in the AT&T domed city.

[stessier]

I read that as "doomed" city, and got a chuckle.

[Blackhawk]

new question.
I've seen that TFG a lot.. I'm assuming it's referring to Trump, but what does it stand for? It's not his initials...

The origin.



It was picked up on by a reporter as a 'clean' nickname for getting under Trump's skin.

[GreenGoo]

Traditionally it referred to a secret government. Highly placed members of the government, industry leaders, financial big-wigs, members of the CIA and other alphabet agencies, and whoever else the current theory assigns - think the Illuminati and that sort of thing.

This is the traditional meaning as I understand it. However now, for political reasons, anyone in the government is part of the deep state if they disagree with you. Anyone high up that wasn't elected to their position is particularly susceptible to the claim, especially if they have remained in their position through multiple presidencies.

[hepcat]

Consensus is "The Former Guy" as stated by Biden. To me, it reads as That Fuckin' Guy . Grown out of "Don't be that guy" from decades ago. Always has and always will.

I always read it as "This Fucking Guy" and thought it was just a quote from Nandor on What We Do in the Shadows that people used for Trump.

[Brian]

Mark me in the "That Fuckin' Guy" column.

[Jaymann]

Although "Ten Fledgling Giants" could fit many applications.

[Blackhawk]

At least this thread made me research it. Now I can quit thinking that Task Force Games is responsible for our current woes.

[Jaymann]

It's like the game company Terminate and Stay Resident.

[LawBeefaroni]

India seems like it could well be our future...

The basic premise of the book is that India is broken. How so?

Indian elites who live first-world lives and their international counterparts tell a very upbeat story about India, relying on whacky techno-optimism and using superficial indicators.

I have long felt that that upbeat story is completely divorced from the lived reality of the vast majority of Indians. I wanted to write a book about that lived reality, about jobs, education, healthcare, the cities Indians live in, the justice system they encounter, the air they breathe, the water they drink. And when you look at India through that lens of that reality, the progress is halting at best and far removed from the aspirations of people and what might have been.

India is broken in the sense that for hundreds of millions of Indians, jobs are hard to get, and education and health care are poor. The justice system is coercive and brutal. The air quality remains extraordinarily poor. The rivers are dying. And it's not clear that things are going to get better.

Underlying that brokenness, social norms and public accountability have eroded to a point where India seems to be in a catch-22: Unaccountable politicians do not impose accountability on themselves; therefore, no one has an incentive to impose accountability for policy priorities that might benefit large numbers of people. The elite are happy in their gated first-world communities. They shrug their shoulders and say, “What exactly is the problem?”

I do fear that this is the future the US is hurtling towards as well. At least on the GOP side.

The major difference between India and the US, at least as far as what the author is talikg about is that they have a population density of 1,130/Sq mile and a per capita income of $2,400. The US has a density of 91 and income of $76,000.

The US has increasing social stratification, sure, but with far fewer resource pressures.

[Pyperkub]

No doubt there are some significant differences, but the attitudes (and monopoly power/policies) wearing down the middle class definitely seem to have us on the trend line - the "unaccountable" politicians seems to be a feature which accelerates this deterioration.

[LawBeefaroni]

Yeah, well get there by politics rather than by runaway population growth and climate change. By choice rather than by force.

[waitingtoconnect]

India seems like it could well be our future...

The basic premise of the book is that India is broken. How so?

Indian elites who live first-world lives and their international counterparts tell a very upbeat story about India, relying on whacky techno-optimism and using superficial indicators.

I have long felt that that upbeat story is completely divorced from the lived reality of the vast majority of Indians. I wanted to write a book about that lived reality, about jobs, education, healthcare, the cities Indians live in, the justice system they encounter, the air they breathe, the water they drink. And when you look at India through that lens of that reality, the progress is halting at best and far removed from the aspirations of people and what might have been.

India is broken in the sense that for hundreds of millions of Indians, jobs are hard to get, and education and health care are poor. The justice system is coercive and brutal. The air quality remains extraordinarily poor. The rivers are dying. And it's not clear that things are going to get better.

Underlying that brokenness, social norms and public accountability have eroded to a point where India seems to be in a catch-22: Unaccountable politicians do not impose accountability on themselves; therefore, no one has an incentive to impose accountability for policy priorities that might benefit large numbers of people. The elite are happy in their gated first-world communities. They shrug their shoulders and say, “What exactly is the problem?”

I do fear that this is the future the US is hurtling towards as well. At least on the GOP side.

India is more complicated than the United States. It is a federation of fundamentally different peoples united by the vision of one man, Gandhi. In many ways it’s as if the Germans, French and British united as one country after world war 2. They are that different.

If you’ve ever hung around the mega rich then the ideas of India’s rich is no different to ours. The poverty annd wealth divide is extreme but it’s always been that way. We worked our way up from that so if we lose it that’s a much bigger shame.

Politically however the nationalist tactics employed by Modi are used by Republicans and how they run India by using agencies to go after political opponents and media outlets is how Trump will run things.

[Blackhawk]

India is more complicated than the United States. It is a federation of fundamentally different peoples united by the vision of one man, Gandhi. In many ways it’s as if the Germans, French and British united as one country after world war 2. They are that different.

Actually, that sounds exactly like the US.

People need to let go of the myth that we're a single, unified culture. We're a collection of fundamentally different cultures united by some common, and relatively recent, history.