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Kasey Chang wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:57 am IMHO, this is going to split the Republicans in half. A good portion of Republicans would never vote for Trump again, and feel betrayed by the GOP leaders for picking Trump in the first place. Either they defect or they don't turn out.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:52 pmOr they just swallow the Crazy down like Lindsey Fucking Graham did. Whatever it takes to make it OK in your head (which is not much, since basic human behavior tells us we HATES admitting we were wrong about something, especially something Big and Important and Serious).

malchior wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:57 am That's a good point. I have to wonder if it is an act or not. In 2014, they were saying his willingness to be serious and compromise were going to earn him a tea party challenge. Here we are 7 years later and he has suddenly sprouted nearly all of Trump's worst traits and adopted his policy positions. My opinion? He is another cynical power hungry POS.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:46 am I cant believe so many people support Mitch even when he stands up and preaches not giving Americans free money. Never mind not supporting good bills and supporting stuff that hurts lower and middle class but supports the rich. Common sense says someone like that is instantly voted out quick as possible. But nope.

Octavious wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 9:26 am I've yet to met a Republican that is not in Trump's side. The idea they are splitting is just wishful thinking. Our only hope is that he choaks to death on one of his steaks.

"I don't take any responsibility at all."
— Trump on March 13, 2020

"How dare you not give me all credit."
— Trump on March 13, 2021

Modern GOP in a nutshell.

k Times

The Republican Party in the era following Donald J. Trump’s presidency is comprised of five “tribes” that have ranging affinity for the former president and different desires when it comes to seeing him continue to lead the party, according to a new survey by Mr. Trump’s former pollster.

The survey of 1,264 voters, who are registered Republicans or identify as Republicans, is the first comprehensive one conducted about G.O.P. voter sentiment since Mr. Trump left office, and as he considers running again in 2024. It was conducted by the Republican polling firm Fabrizio and Lee — which worked for Mr. Trump in his 2020 campaign but does not any longer.

The former president “still wields tremendous influence over the party, yet it is not universal or homogeneous,” the pollsters wrote in their summary. “We found that there are clear and distinct ‘tribes’ of Trump supporters within the G.O.P. and, not surprisingly, a small Never Trump group.”

Those “tribes” were identified as “Trump Boosters,” “Die-hard Trumpers,” “Post-Trump G.O.P.,” “Never Trump,” and “Infowars G.O.P.” The latter group, among other things, was described as viewing QAnon conspiracy theories favorably and believing in many of them.

According to the data, some 57 percent of Republicans polled said they would support Mr. Trump in an election again. That’s a strong majority, but nowhere near the job approval that he enjoys among all Republicans polled, which was 88 percent.

Among the groups, according to the survey, there were some distinctions in terms of how they viewed Trump.

The group identified as “Die-hard Trumpers” — supporters of the former president who would back him in a hypothetical primary regardless of who else was running but who don’t believe in QAnon conspiracy theories — comprised 27 percent of the Republican voters surveyed. Another 28 percent comprised the “Trump Boosters,” Republicans who said they approve of how Mr. Trump did his job, but only a slight majority of them support him being the nominee again, and they are more supportive of the Republican Party than Mr. Trump personally.

The “Never Trump” Republicans comprised 15 percent of the Republicans surveyed. Another 20 percent were described as “Post-Trump G.O.P.,” who like Mr. Trump but want to see someone else as the party’s nominee.

The “Infowars G.O.P.” voters, named for the conspiracy-laden news outlet that was founded by Alex Jones, comprised 10 percent of the voters surveyed, far from a majority but a significant enough portion of voters that, in a multicandidate primary, could play a factor. Only 13 percent of all the voters surveyed believed in QAnon conspiracy theories, the poll showed, but 69 percent of the “Infowars G.O.P.” voters backed those theories.

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sun Mar 14, 2021 9:10 am They are absolutely going to deify him when he croaks and his kids are going to go on tour and spread the word of Trump. I 100% believe we're witnessing the origins of a new religion here.

Yahoo wrote: Explaining why he didn’t feel threatened during the Capitol riot, Johnson said the largely white pro-Trump crowd that stormed the Capitol were patriots and then claimed race as a reason for why he might have felt differently.

"Even though those thousands of people that were marching to the Capitol were trying to pressure people like me to vote the way they wanted me to vote, I knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break the law, and so I wasn't concerned," Johnson said on the conservative radio talk show.

"Now, had the tables been turned -- Joe, this could get me in trouble -- had the tables been turned, and President Trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of Black Lives Matter and Antifa protesters, I might have been a little concerned."

GOP argument is always:

1. It's illegitimate for Dems to do anything without at least some cooperation from us.
2. We're not gonna cooperate on shit.

The logic is that Dems can't ever do anything legitimate. And that is exactly the point.

12 members who voted against House bill to award the Congressional Gold Medal to Capitol Police & those who protected the Capitol on Jan 6
Sports medal


Massie
Harris
Gooden
Good
Gaetz
Cloud
Clyde
Steube
Biggs
Gohmert
Greene
Rose

Final Tally: 413-12

Alabama House has what promises to be a contentious calendar today. It includes bills banning on transgender youth playing sports of the sex with which they identify; a "born alive" abortion bill; legislation expanding rioting definitions & a ban on curbside voting.

Defiant wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:45 pm While we're defining the Republican Party, can we change it's nickname from GOP to GQP?

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:56 pm Matt Gaetz being investigated for possible sexual relationship with underage girl.

Zaxxon wrote: ↑Tue Mar 30, 2021 5:56 pm Matt Gaetz being investigated for possible sexual relationship with underage girl.

The three people said that the examination of Mr. Gaetz, 38, is part of a broader investigation into a political ally of his, a local official in Florida named Joel Greenberg, who was indicted last summer on an array of charges, including sex trafficking of a child and financially supporting people in exchange for sex, at least one of whom was an underage girl.

Mr. Greenberg, who has since resigned his post as tax collector in Seminole County, north of Orlando, visited the White House with Mr. Gaetz in 2019, according to a photograph that Mr. Greenberg posted on Twitter.