Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 2:13 am
I'm thinking of this. Longer ago than I thought (2010). I guess she must have switched back to being Republican in subsequent elections?
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Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
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Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:59 pm
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Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:54 pm
The Tennessee legislator who introduced the chemtrails legislation also introduced this humdinger-
https://ifapray.org/blog/tennessee-reso ... d-fasting/
https://ifapray.org/blog/tennessee-reso ... d-fasting/
Rep. Monty Fritts, of District 32 in Tennessee, has sponsored a bill calling on the entire state to cry out to God for mercy and healing.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 12:56 pm
Your link is not.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
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Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 7:08 am
So Trump proves their point:
Trump attacks resigning GOP Reps as ‘cowards and weaklings’ as majority thins
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4566 ... thins/amp/
Trump attacks resigning GOP Reps as ‘cowards and weaklings’ as majority thins
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4566 ... thins/amp/
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:00 am
Cowards for not standing up to him and the threats of violence from his supporters for not being his kind of "republican?"
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:17 am
Cowards and weaklings for not bowing to Trump’s pressure to block aid to Ukraine. As Agent Orange.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 11:12 pm
Cowards because Trump's a bully, and it was the first insult he thought of.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:16 am
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:24 am
Had to look up who he is and what Article III project is. The first hit I can't read from the NYT states
It's all about the Supreme Court. It continues to be all about the Supreme Court.
So yeah, this reinforces my bias that I will vote for 0 GOP candidates (short of a truly despicable opponent and a demonstrably shining virtuous GOP ) at any level until the Supreme Court no longer reflects TFGs time in office. That may mean never again in my lifetime.May 18, 2019 — Justice Gorsuch privately called Mr. Davis “the general” of his confirmation while Justice Kavanaugh referred to the former Senate aide as “a ...
It's all about the Supreme Court. It continues to be all about the Supreme Court.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 2:28 pm
One thing we're seeing increasingly as a definition of the 21st Century GOP - an embrace of violence against Americans who oppose them.
Merely the latest example:
Merely the latest example:
A day after encouraging members of the public to “take matters into their own hands” to deal with peaceful protesters, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) is doubling down on his endorsement of mob violence.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 6:52 am
The don wants his share:
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:43 am
Weird use of tithe since it literally means "a tenth" 
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:05 pm
Headline should have been: Trump Decimates GOP Campaign Donations Across AmericaCarpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:43 am Weird use of tithe since it literally means "a tenth"
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:12 pm
I hope by the time they wake up and realize Trump would destroy the party for his own benefit that it's too late to save the party.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:20 pm
I feel like that's already happened. Almost like receiving a fatal dose of radiation, they're dead but just don't know it yet.
Of course all bets are off if Americans elect enough GOP members into power.
Of course all bets are off if Americans elect enough GOP members into power.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
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Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:48 pm
They're almost surely going to take the Senate, they have a 50/50 shot at the White House, they own SCOTUS, and they control the House, if "control" is the right word for that clown show. They also dominate more than half of the states. Dysfunction is already winning.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:34 pm
The best hope we have is that they tear themselves apart. We’ve already seen inklings of this. The GOP is at war with everyone….including themselves.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 8:57 pm
Yeah, I feel like the damage done (to the country) will be based on how long it takes for them to self-destruct, not on how bad they get... so I hope I'm willing to endure some of this crazy shit as long as it exposes them to voters and breaks them apart from the inside.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 12:15 am
The self destruction is happening regardless. It's more of a question of whether they manage to make the idea of 'party' irrelevant before they implode. If they manage to take the WH and both chambers, their ability to function as a party probably won't matter much anymore.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:12 am
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:15 am
I've had the hope of GOP and specifically the vengeful religious and pseudo libertarian GOP implosion for a long time. That hope seems to founded in fantasy. While I assumed exposure was the key to a painfully quick boom. It's been anything but quick, and the size of support has grown like a weed ever since 2008...
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Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2024 1:15 pm
As if someone worse doesn’t exist? Careful!
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 2:32 pm
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:55 pm
Sure, they only care about her being an uninformed nutjob when she's dragging the party down. If the polls were behind her they'd be lapping up her insanity with a spoon.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:07 pm
That's true, but at the end of the day the main thing I care about is that they reject her, rather than why they reject her.YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:55 pm Sure, they only care about her being an uninformed nutjob when she's dragging the party down. If the polls were behind her they'd be lapping up her insanity with a spoon.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:10 pm
I'm not sure Thom Tillis is the most accurate canary in the coalmine for the Republican party rejecting extremists, as he has a history of working with moderates and even supporting some progressive causes. However, I agree that any movement is good movement.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Fri Apr 26, 2024 2:49 pm
All well known and documented in this thread, but worth repeating:
The interesting bit:In general, conservative legal theory over the last two generations has been marked by a few big ideas:
That originalism and the text of the Constitution matters.
That judges should not make policy or legislate from the bench.
That courts should issue decisions as narrowly as possible, so as to leave the field open for both future legal maneuver and legislative action.
That when possible, courts should defer to the will of voters.
Am I generalizing here? Yes. Are there distinctions between schools of conservative legal thought? Sure.1 Let’s grant all of those distinctions and caveats.
Even so, from the 35,000-foot level everyone understands what was meant over the last 40 years when people talked about “conservative legal theory.”
Stuart Stevens wrote a book called It Was All a Lie.
His thesis was that the dogma conservatives had professed for 60 years—the love of small government and free trade; the desire for robust foreign policy; the belief that character and accountability mattered—turned out not to be values but rationalizations.
In Stuart’s view, conservatives had a bunch of groups they disfavored and then worked backwards to concoct an ideological framework to support these prejudices. No, not all conservatives. And maybe not on every single issue. But enough so that the generalization was generally fair.
When Stuart first published his book I thought it was an interesting idea. The preponderance of evidence that has emerged since 2020 has buttressed his case.
Yesterday the Supreme Court hinted that maybe conservative legal theory was always a lie, too.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:47 am
I just don’t know what to say to say to this:
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:48 am
My posting of this was not about anyone rejecting extremists, I just thought it was a funny quote about the Republican village idiot.YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2024 4:10 pm I'm not sure Thom Tillis is the most accurate canary in the coalmine for the Republican party rejecting extremists, as he has a history of working with moderates and even supporting some progressive causes. However, I agree that any movement is good movement.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 8:50 am
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:39 am
Sadly he's just a representation of millions of Americans who would vote for anything with an (R) rather than admit to themselves that the party they've been groomed to despise is the better option.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 10:11 am
YepYellowKing wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 9:39 am Sadly he's just a representation of millions of Americans who would vote for anything with an (R) rather than admit to themselves that the party they've been groomed to despise is the better option.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2024 12:28 pm
Yeah, this man is just - just unfathomable. Among so many others. And yet there they are - plain as day.
Can you imagine (I can't) what possible inner narrative/logic his mind is or isn't going through? I honestly can't understand it, minus some massive payout or briberly-like or extorsion-like situation.
BTW, this post really should have gone in the 2024 election thread, where you shared Trump's post insulting Barr for endorsing him - since these two posts really are so in need to be seen together.
Re: Defining the 21st Century Republican Party?
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 10:49 pm