Official Octopus Overlords Election Game Day Thread (tm)

Gromit · Post by **Gromit** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:56 pm

The Mad Hatter wrote:Say it slowly now, with me - Bush has been re-elected President of the United States.

For those of us in the military, that's a very good thing.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:57 pm

Nade wrote:Daschle and Thune neck and neck

The FL and PA senate races are neck and neck as well. Hope the Dems don't lose seats there...

(goes to fill glass with more wine)

Coskesh · Post by **Coskesh** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:59 pm

Man, I expected Bush to win, and I thought I would really be fine with it, but I'm feeling really bummed right now.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:59 pm

CBS gave CA to Kerry (of course):
KY (Race 2004) Bush 8
IN (Race 2004) Bush 11
GA (NBC) Bush 15
WV (BBC) Bush 5
AL (CNN) Bush 9
OK (CNN) Bush 7
TN (CNN) Bush 11
SC (FOX) Bush 8
NC (FOX) Bush 15
VA (CBS) Bush 13
MS (CBS) Bush 6
TX (CBS) Bush 34
KS (NBC) Bush 6
NE (NBC) Bush 5
ND (NBC) Bush 3
SD (NBC) Bush 3
WY (NBC) Bush 3
LA (CBS) Bush 9
UT (CBS) Bush 5
MT (CBS) Bush 3
AR (CBS) Bush 6
MO (BBC) Bush 11
AZ (NBC) Bush 10
VT (NBC) Kerry 3
NJ (FOX) Kerry 15
CT (CNN) Kerry 7
DE (CNN) Kerry 3
DC (CNN) Kerry 3
IL (CNN) Kerry 21
ME (CNN) Kerry 3
MD (CNN) Kerry 10
MA (CNN) Kerry 12
NY (CBS) Kerry 31
RI (NBC) Kerry 4
PA (CBS) Kerry 21
CA (CBS) Kerry 55
Total: Bush 206, Kerry 188

~Neal

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:59 pm

NBC:
California, Washington to Kerry
Idaho for Bush

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:00 am

The Mad Hatter wrote: Bush is up by 280,000 votes in Florida with 88% of precincts reporting. If there really are 1.6 million absentee ballots left, Kerry would have to win more than two thirds of them.

~58%, actually.

Not likely, though.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:01 am

CBS: WA to Kerry, ID & CO

to Bush:

KY (Race 2004) Bush 8
IN (Race 2004) Bush 11
GA (NBC) Bush 15
WV (BBC) Bush 5
AL (CNN) Bush 9
OK (CNN) Bush 7
TN (CNN) Bush 11
SC (FOX) Bush 8
NC (FOX) Bush 15
VA (CBS) Bush 13
MS (CBS) Bush 6
TX (CBS) Bush 34
KS (NBC) Bush 6
NE (NBC) Bush 5
ND (NBC) Bush 3
SD (NBC) Bush 3
WY (NBC) Bush 3
LA (CBS) Bush 9
UT (CBS) Bush 5
MT (CBS) Bush 3
AR (CBS) Bush 6
MO (BBC) Bush 11
AZ (NBC) Bush 10
ID (CBS) Bush 4
CO (CBS) Bush 9
VT (NBC) Kerry 3
NJ (FOX) Kerry 15
CT (CNN) Kerry 7
DE (CNN) Kerry 3
DC (CNN) Kerry 3
IL (CNN) Kerry 21
ME (CNN) Kerry 3
MD (CNN) Kerry 10
MA (CNN) Kerry 12
NY (CBS) Kerry 31
RI (NBC) Kerry 4
PA (CBS) Kerry 21
CA (CBS) Kerry 55
WA (CBS) Kerry 11
Total: Bush 219, Kerry 199

~Neal

Rincewind · Post by **Rincewind** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:01 am

Early projections, but too early to call, very encouraging for Kerry in:

Iowa
Minnesota
Michigan

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:01 am

Coskesh wrote:Man, I expected Bush to win, and I thought I would really be fine with it, but I'm feeling really bummed right now.

Come on guys, you aren't losing your spirit already are you. Why is it whenever I'm on the winning side the other guys seem to give up in the 3rd quarter. Kerry could still win! I hope he doesn't be it could happen.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:02 am

Interesting. MI looked...bad for Kerry.

Wayne County (Detroit, right Meal?) with 4% counted had Bush with a 2,000 vote lead.

Wayne just upped their report to 37%. Now Kerry nearly up by 100,000 in the state.

Some hope left, I guess.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:04 am

Yeah, Wayne Co. is Motown, sugah.

Macomb and Oakland are pretty much Detroit, too:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/ ... 0/map.html

~Neal

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:05 am

What's in Washtenaw Co?

Heavily voting Kerry, but very preliminary there.

Padre · Post by **Padre** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:06 am

What's taking New Hampshire so long?

Can Kerry still win if he loses both Ohio and Florida? What would he need to do it?

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:07 am

Pennsylvania Votes for Kerry, Networks Say

Yahoo.com

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:07 am

Ever hear of a little college called the University of Michigan? A^2 is Washtenaw County.

~Neal

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:08 am

C-SPAN shows a big jump in MI for Kerry- 55-44

Ale

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:08 am

[quote="Padre"]What's taking New Hampshire so long?[quote]

There's a difference of only 6,000 votes in NH with 40% of the precincts to go. Could still go either way, I guess.

Beergut · Post by **Beergut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:10 am

I think Kerry supporters have reason for optimism.
Everything I hear about Ohio leads me to believe that Kerry will absolutely win that state.
That, along with Kerry's victory in Pennsylvania, would put Bush in a very tenuous position.

Watch Ohio!!

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:11 am

No way does Kerry win anything if he doesn't win either Ohio or FL.

Apparently the hold on declaring FL is the huge percentage of absentee ballots from Broward, Dade, and Palm Beach Counties. People were taking them because they wanted to vote with a paper-trail ballot.

IHateMorrowind · Post by **IHateMorrowind** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:12 am

It just seems that Bush's lead has been holding at 100000 ish for a long time now in Ohio...does anyone know where in Ohio hasn't reported yet?

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:15 am

CBS: Republicans control the house

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:15 am

IHateMorrowind wrote:It just seems that Bush's lead has been holding at 100000 ish for a long time now in Ohio...does anyone know where in Ohio hasn't reported yet?

Ohio is a mess. There are people that have waited in line for 9 hours (MSNBC). The courts have ruled they can fill out pieces of paper while in line and hand them in.

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:15 am

Cuyahoga county has been at 41% for a while.

Summit County (Cleveland suburbs, I'm guessing) at 49%.

Lucas County (I'm thinking that's Toledo) at 46%.

Stark County, your "bellwether county" is currently Kerry 52, Bush 48 with 38% reporting.

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:16 am

CBS:
Reason for delay in Florida: Southern part of the state not yet counted + absentee ballots not yet counted and don't want to be burned (again)

triggercut · Post by **triggercut** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:16 am

...and then there are the "provisional ballots" that noxiousdog mentions. Those may not be certified to be counted for days and days.

The Meal · Post by **The Meal** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:16 am

How Ohio looks:
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004//pages ... 0/map.html

~Neal

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:17 am

Beergut wrote:Watch Ohio!!

50% of the precincts logged, and it's Bush 52%, Kerry 46%.

Surprisingly strong showing by Michael Anthony Peroutka, who's outpolling Ralph Nader and almost beating Badnarik. Go Constitution Party!

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:19 am

Tareeq wrote:
Beergut wrote:Watch Ohio!!
50% of the precincts logged, and it's Bush 52%, Kerry 46%.

Surprisingly strong showing by Michael Anthony Peroutka, who's outpolling Ralph Nader and almost beating Badnarik. Go Constitution Party!

Was Nader even on the ballot in Ohio?

Rincewind · Post by **Rincewind** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:20 am

Trig man, whats up with your pessimism tonight dude? dont be so quick to jump off the bandwagon man, it doesnt reflect well! Besides, there is still a chance. CNN just reported that there are tons of absentees from the primarily democratic counties. I agree with you though, Florida does not look good.

So, it looks like Ohio eh? Kerry has trailed for a logn time, but people keep saying that he is due for a big bump at some point...interesting.

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:24 am

Nade wrote:Was Nader even on the ballot in Ohio?

No but neither is Peroutka, who's listed as WI. Either that means he's from Wisconsin or a Write-In.

Nader's not showing up at all on the OH Sec State's page. He may not have qualified even as a write-in.

Anyway, don't be such a downer Edan. The Constitution Party deserves to celebrate its big day!

MHS · Post by **MHS** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:26 am

Nader was on the ballot here under the "Colorado Reform" party.

hido · Post by **hido** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:27 am

Trig's using the ol' "expect the worst and then be pleasantly surprised when things work out better than expected" philosophy. It's common among restaurant folk. It's also known as "I'm not a cynic, I'm a realist". Makes things a lot easier.

flycatcher · Post by **flycatcher** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:28 am

If Kerry loses both florida and ohio, very possible, he can force a tie if he wins NH and Nevada and wins the rest of the gore states

hido · Post by **hido** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:29 am

Except a tie is still a loss for Kerry.

Little Raven · Post by **Little Raven** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:30 am

flycatcher wrote:If Kerry loses both florida and ohio, very possible, he can force a tie if he wins NH and Nevada and wins the rest of the gore states

I fail to see how that helps him much. Do we really expect the House to vote against Bush?

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:30 am

flycatcher wrote:If Kerry loses both florida and ohio, very possible, he can force a tie if he wins NH and Nevada and wins the rest of the gore states

he'd also have to win all of maine's potentially split electoral votes

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:30 am

Beergut wrote: Watch Ohio!!

All I can picture is the Yatta video with Colin Mochrie's head screaming:

"OHIO!"

It's driving me nuts. Who knew the Yatta guys were onto something way back in 2001?

hido · Post by **hido** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:32 am

Looking like Zogby was WAY off. Damn.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:35 am

Bush is now up by 320,000 in FL, with 97% reporting in. Assuming that figure holds, Kerry would have to win about 60% of the absentees' votes to take the state. Starting to look like FL is shrub's...

Crabbs · Post by **Crabbs** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 12:35 am

Last I heard was that Ohio will possibly not finish VOTING until 12 or 12:30. Because the lines were so long in The cities.