The Votes
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- msduncan
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The Votes
Thought it might be interesting to list your votes. Everyone knows the Presidential votes, but list some of you state initatives and races and the candidate's party affiliation
My votes:
President: George W. Bush (R)
Senate: Johnny Iassacson (R)
House: Max Burns (my college professor!) (R)
Defining marriage as only between a man and a woman: No
Allowing the Georgia Supreme Court advise federal courts on Georgia Law: Yes.
My votes:
President: George W. Bush (R)
Senate: Johnny Iassacson (R)
House: Max Burns (my college professor!) (R)
Defining marriage as only between a man and a woman: No
Allowing the Georgia Supreme Court advise federal courts on Georgia Law: Yes.
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Voting was pretty easy this time in NJ. No initiatives to vote on.
President: George W. Bush (R)
House: Scott Garrett (R)
I don't even think there were any Democrats running for any of the local offices, so I didn't bother to vote for those spots.
President: George W. Bush (R)
House: Scott Garrett (R)
I don't even think there were any Democrats running for any of the local offices, so I didn't bother to vote for those spots.
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
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President: George W. Bush
Governor: Patrick Ballantine (even though he'll lose - NC loves their Democratic governors)
House: Richard Burr (running against a guy named ERSKINE BOWLES. Seriously, could you vote for someone named ERSKINE BOWLES???)
Only addendum of any note is one to allow local municipalities to issue bonds for public works without voter consent in order to attract developers. Umm...I don't think so! I don't know what the party stances are on it, but I don't see how taking away my right to vote on where my local tax money goes could possibly be a good idea.
The rest of the positions I don't know anything about so I'll likely just vote a Republican ticket.
Governor: Patrick Ballantine (even though he'll lose - NC loves their Democratic governors)
House: Richard Burr (running against a guy named ERSKINE BOWLES. Seriously, could you vote for someone named ERSKINE BOWLES???)
Only addendum of any note is one to allow local municipalities to issue bonds for public works without voter consent in order to attract developers. Umm...I don't think so! I don't know what the party stances are on it, but I don't see how taking away my right to vote on where my local tax money goes could possibly be a good idea.
The rest of the positions I don't know anything about so I'll likely just vote a Republican ticket.
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The wife's votes mirror YK's. I do hope Ballantine wins. Tax-Hike Mike Easley has not been good for NC manufacturing.YellowKing wrote:President: George W. Bush
Governor: Patrick Ballantine (even though he'll lose - NC loves their Democratic governors)
House: Richard Burr (running against a guy named ERSKINE BOWLES. Seriously, could you vote for someone named ERSKINE BOWLES???)
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President: John Kerry (D)
Senate: Barack Obama (D)
House: Melissa Bean (D)
I think Kerry would win Illinois regardless of me, and unless every Illinoisian gets spontaneous brain damage, Obama should beat Alan Keyes by 50 points or more.
The House race is going to be a tight one, though. Phil Crane has been in office for 30+ years, and I have a personal problem with any politician keeping an elected office for that long. Plus, he's been running ads highlighting the fact that Bean doesn't live in the district, but he had his district rezoned to specifically exclude the neighborhoods of his would-be competitors. That strikes me as an exceptionally sleazy and petty political trick.
Senate: Barack Obama (D)
House: Melissa Bean (D)
I think Kerry would win Illinois regardless of me, and unless every Illinoisian gets spontaneous brain damage, Obama should beat Alan Keyes by 50 points or more.
The House race is going to be a tight one, though. Phil Crane has been in office for 30+ years, and I have a personal problem with any politician keeping an elected office for that long. Plus, he's been running ads highlighting the fact that Bean doesn't live in the district, but he had his district rezoned to specifically exclude the neighborhoods of his would-be competitors. That strikes me as an exceptionally sleazy and petty political trick.
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Great thread MSD!!!
I voted for Kerry for President
Bill Jenkins (R) for Congressman (against token opposition)
Ron Ramsey (R) for State Senate (I know the man, and he is one of the good guys)
and Jason Mumpower (R) for Tennessee House of Representatives (not really a fan of his, but his Democrat opponent is a nut, and one of those guys that runs every year, for every thing.
Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat, but this years crop of Dem's for "local" races, werent good candidates, and left alot to be desired.
I voted for Kerry for President
Bill Jenkins (R) for Congressman (against token opposition)
Ron Ramsey (R) for State Senate (I know the man, and he is one of the good guys)
and Jason Mumpower (R) for Tennessee House of Representatives (not really a fan of his, but his Democrat opponent is a nut, and one of those guys that runs every year, for every thing.
Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat, but this years crop of Dem's for "local" races, werent good candidates, and left alot to be desired.
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If not very amusing for the people that don't live there (like me).Grievous Angel wrote:That strikes me as an exceptionally sleazy and petty political trick.
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
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jblank wrote:Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat
And in banks across the world
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
Christians, Moslems, Hindus, Jews
And every other race, creed, colour, tint or hue
Get down on their knees and pray
The raccoon and the groundhog neatly
Make up bags of change
But the monkey in the corner
Well he's slowly drifting out of range
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Seriously? I thought you were libertarian. When did you switch?jblank wrote:Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat, but this years crop of Dem's for "local" races, werent good candidates, and left alot to be desired.
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"To wield Grond, the mighty hammer of the Federal Government, is to be intoxicated with power beyond what you and I can reckon (though I figure we can ball park it pretty good with computers and maths). Need to tunnel through a mountain? Grond. Kill a mighty ogre? Grond. Hangnail? Grond. Spider? Grond (actually, that's a legit use, moreso than the rest)." - Peacedog
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Here in rainy-ass Seattle, I haven't voted yet. But here's my ballot
President: Kerry
Senate: Patty Murray (D). I can't believe that milquetoast Nethercutt thinks he can win this one.
House: Jim McDermott (D). Yep, that same McDermott that showed up in Farenheit 9/11. His GOP opponent is a real loon.
Governor: Christine Gregoire (D). This was a toughie. I was giving the libertarian candidate a real hard look. I like Locke but frankly he didn't really do much as Governor (that probably wrecked any outside chance he had to be president). but Dino Rossi scares the shit out of me. And if he gets elected, Gay marriage is dead in WA. Screw that.
Oh and I will vote for the Green Party candidate for state rep. I basically voted the Democrat party line, to ensure that gay marriage goes through in WA.
President: Kerry
Senate: Patty Murray (D). I can't believe that milquetoast Nethercutt thinks he can win this one.
House: Jim McDermott (D). Yep, that same McDermott that showed up in Farenheit 9/11. His GOP opponent is a real loon.
Governor: Christine Gregoire (D). This was a toughie. I was giving the libertarian candidate a real hard look. I like Locke but frankly he didn't really do much as Governor (that probably wrecked any outside chance he had to be president). but Dino Rossi scares the shit out of me. And if he gets elected, Gay marriage is dead in WA. Screw that.
Oh and I will vote for the Green Party candidate for state rep. I basically voted the Democrat party line, to ensure that gay marriage goes through in WA.
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I'll bite, why the question mark? I have said since probably July that I was supporting Kerry, no longer having anything to do with the LP, or its candidates, and am leaning towards the Democratic Party. Where is the confusion? Tell me you arent going to start questioning my political affiliation again.RunningMn9 wrote:jblank wrote:Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat
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I gave up on the LP back around the time of their convention, and switched to supporting Kerry. At this point, I find myself agreeing more with what is coming out of the Democratic Party, so thats the direction I am heading towards, even though I did support Republicans in 3 of 4 races I voted in today.noxiousdog wrote:Seriously? I thought you were libertarian. When did you switch?jblank wrote:Still a Moderate to Conservative Democrat, but this years crop of Dem's for "local" races, werent good candidates, and left alot to be desired.
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This surprises me.triggercut wrote:President: George W. Bush (R)
House of Reps: James Wolf (R)
They had more signs up on the little road to my polling place and it convinced me.
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Thats gotta be a joke.godhugh wrote:This surprises me.triggercut wrote:President: George W. Bush (R)
House of Reps: James Wolf (R)
They had more signs up on the little road to my polling place and it convinced me.
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Uh, trig's making a joke out of yard signs and their effectivenss (something I've often wondered why folks bother -- do they think they're making a difference, or are they after the *appearances* of trying?).godhugh wrote:This surprises me.triggercut wrote:President: George W. Bush (R)
House of Reps: James Wolf (R)
They had more signs up on the little road to my polling place and it convinced me.
~Neal
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President : George W. Bush (R)
House : Frank Wolf (R)
NO - Should Loudoun County contract a $15,000,000.00 debt to construct and equip the Franklin Park Performing Arts Center, Dulles South Multi-Purpose Facility, and renovation of and addition to the Loudoun Valley Community Center, and purchase land for Lovettsville Park.
YES - Should Loudoun County contract a $92,605,000.00 debt for Brambleton Area Elementary School, Ashburn/Dulles Middle School, and renovation to existing middle schools, renovation of and addition to Loudoun County High School, and purchase land to build 2 future elementary schools and two middle schools.
House : Frank Wolf (R)
NO - Should Loudoun County contract a $15,000,000.00 debt to construct and equip the Franklin Park Performing Arts Center, Dulles South Multi-Purpose Facility, and renovation of and addition to the Loudoun Valley Community Center, and purchase land for Lovettsville Park.
YES - Should Loudoun County contract a $92,605,000.00 debt for Brambleton Area Elementary School, Ashburn/Dulles Middle School, and renovation to existing middle schools, renovation of and addition to Loudoun County High School, and purchase land to build 2 future elementary schools and two middle schools.
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I haven't voted yet either (waiting for the after-work rush, woo!), but I'll go as follows
Pres: Kerry
And since there's no significant other offices up for grabs (not that I've been paying real close attention), that's about it.
Oh, and NO on the tax cap, and YES on the banning of bear trapping and baiting, but I doubt anyone else here is from Maine.
Pres: Kerry
And since there's no significant other offices up for grabs (not that I've been paying real close attention), that's about it.
Oh, and NO on the tax cap, and YES on the banning of bear trapping and baiting, but I doubt anyone else here is from Maine.
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Actually, things like yard signs and bumper stickers do increase the candidates likelyhood of getting votes. In the mid 90's, I worked for a Virginia State Senator during his campaign, and I remember one study, from a seminar he sent me to, talking about for every 50 bumper stickers they got on cars, they estimated that got 30 undecided voters. Now, I have no idea how they arrived at this conclusion, but it seems to be true that "getting and keeping the name out" can in fact increase the attractiveness of that candidate, and may somehow garner a few votes.The Meal wrote:Uh, trig's making a joke out of yard signs and their effectivenss (something I've often wondered why folks bother -- do they think they're making a difference, or are they after the *appearances* of trying?).godhugh wrote:This surprises me.triggercut wrote:President: George W. Bush (R)
House of Reps: James Wolf (R)
They had more signs up on the little road to my polling place and it convinced me.
~Neal
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No Koz, I love hearing about local and state referendums. That and amendments, bonds, etc, have always interested me. I am glad some of you are listing the local/state issues, its interesting to read.Koz wrote:I haven't voted yet either (waiting for the after-work rush, woo!), but I'll go as follows
Pres: Kerry
And since there's no significant other offices up for grabs (not that I've been paying real close attention), that's about it.
Oh, and NO on the tax cap, and YES on the banning of bear trapping and baiting, but I doubt anyone else here is from Maine.
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Probably true Neal, that in fact was for a state Senate race, not a Federal one. Still, I think, and have always thought, that signs and stickers are more a "badge" of support if you will.The Meal wrote:jblank, I believe that for local issues and candidates, but I doubt that 50 "W" bumper stickers will translate into 30 votes for Bush.
~Neal
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I agree. That must only hold true for local candidates. In fact... I'd imagine that it REALLY holds true for local elections where name matters more than party.... and then the non partisan races especially.The Meal wrote:jblank, I believe that for local issues and candidates, but I doubt that 50 "W" bumper stickers will translate into 30 votes for Bush.
~Neal
BTW -- jblank's avatar is awesome -- who is it?
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I have no idea how they come up with their conclusions, but a friend who campaigns for a friend of hers who spends a good deal of time studying the election process tells me that signs are important like they would be in advertising. They are important for name recognition. You are likely to vote for the name you remember if you otherwise are not tied to a party or "know" who you are going to vote for. You want your name remembered and you want to it to be simple and easy to pronounce. You therefore need to get your name out and people used to saying and hearing it.Actually, things like yard signs and bumper stickers do increase the candidates likelyhood of getting votes. In the mid 90's, I worked for a Virginia State Senator during his campaign, and I remember one study talking about for every 50 bumper stickers they got on cars, they estimated that got 30 undecided voters. Now, I have no idea how they arrived at this conclusion, but it seems to be true that "getting and keeping the name out" can in fact increase the attractiveness of that candidate, and may somehow garner a few votes.
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She is Aurora Snow, my fav Pron Star. Its the only "suitable" pic I had of her, so for this week, she's the avatar.msduncan wrote:I agree. That must only hold true for local candidates. In fact... I'd imagine that it REALLY holds true for local elections where name matters more than party.... and then the non partisan races especially.The Meal wrote:jblank, I believe that for local issues and candidates, but I doubt that 50 "W" bumper stickers will translate into 30 votes for Bush.
~Neal
BTW -- jblank's avatar is awesome -- who is it?
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If I remember right, their science for their conclusion was pretty sound, but it was 1995, so the specifics are a bit foggy. Hope I didnt imply that bumper stickers would help a national candidate all that much, but reading what I posted, it may have come off that way.LordMortis wrote:I have no idea how they come up with their conclusions, but a friend who campaigns for a friend of hers who spends a good deal of time studying the election process tells me that signs are important like they would be in advertising. They are important for name recognition. You are likely to vote for the name you remember if you otherwise are not tied to a party or "know" who you are going to vote for. You want your name remembered and you want to it to be simple and easy to pronounce. You therefore need to get your name out and people used to saying and hearing it.Actually, things like yard signs and bumper stickers do increase the candidates likelyhood of getting votes. In the mid 90's, I worked for a Virginia State Senator during his campaign, and I remember one study talking about for every 50 bumper stickers they got on cars, they estimated that got 30 undecided voters. Now, I have no idea how they arrived at this conclusion, but it seems to be true that "getting and keeping the name out" can in fact increase the attractiveness of that candidate, and may somehow garner a few votes.
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As the OctO resident pornography joke-maker, I'm well versed in the many genres... as well as the actresses who 'specialize' in said genres.jblank wrote:She is Aurora Snow, my fav Pron Star. Its the only "suitable" pic I had of her, so for this week, she's the avatar.msduncan wrote:I agree. That must only hold true for local candidates. In fact... I'd imagine that it REALLY holds true for local elections where name matters more than party.... and then the non partisan races especially.The Meal wrote:jblank, I believe that for local issues and candidates, but I doubt that 50 "W" bumper stickers will translate into 30 votes for Bush.
~Neal
BTW -- jblank's avatar is awesome -- who is it?
That said I am very concerned.
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Ron Paul was so my candidate for Pres in 88. I even did an interview with him for my local radio station which never aired. He is a very likable guy, though he does get a bit extreme at time. I thought the things he was extreme on were a good way to shake things up though. He wrote a fantastic book that he published during his run for presidency. The US Constitution after 200 years If you can find it, I recommend it.
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President: John F. Kerry
32nd House District: Martin Frost (D)
State House: Malcolm Dade (D)
State Senate: Unopposed Republican incumbent, so I didn't vote
Voted "yes" to increasing pension pay or something like that for municipal workers.
Generally, I voted for every Democrat on the ballot. In races with no Democrat, I voted Libertarian over Republican. In races with just Republicans, I did not vote.
32nd House District: Martin Frost (D)
State House: Malcolm Dade (D)
State Senate: Unopposed Republican incumbent, so I didn't vote
Voted "yes" to increasing pension pay or something like that for municipal workers.
Generally, I voted for every Democrat on the ballot. In races with no Democrat, I voted Libertarian over Republican. In races with just Republicans, I did not vote.
Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:17 am
Zarathud: The sad thing is that Barak Obama is a very intelligent and articulate person, even when you disagree with his views it's clear that he's very thoughtful. I would have loved to see Obama in a real debate.
Me: Wait 12 years, when he runs for president. :-)
Zarathud: The sad thing is that Barak Obama is a very intelligent and articulate person, even when you disagree with his views it's clear that he's very thoughtful. I would have loved to see Obama in a real debate.
Me: Wait 12 years, when he runs for president. :-)
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Eh, my local offices weren't all that exciting.
Pres: Kerry
House: Broomfield
Senate: Nancy Farmer (I think it's time Kit Bond took a break)
The exciting one was a local question. This is a serious, actually printed on the ballot, question up for voting:
Pres: Kerry
House: Broomfield
Senate: Nancy Farmer (I think it's time Kit Bond took a break)
The exciting one was a local question. This is a serious, actually printed on the ballot, question up for voting:
hmmm .... what would you have said? Personally I said ... hunh? ... No.QUESTION NO.1
Should the Charter of Kansas City be amended by repealing various sections and enacting new sections to read as provided in Second Committee Substitute for Ordinance No. 040924, As Amended, to remove certain operational mandates and to permit the City Council to adopt ordinances to regulate these areas?
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President: Kerry
Senator: Salazar
Amendment 37: Amendment 37 would require certain Colorado utilities to produce or buy a growing portion of their energy from renewable sources such as wind, solar and geothermal. Proponents argue the goals are achievable and won't produce higher bills for ratepayers. Opponents reply that the measure is needlessly inflexible and could very well result in higher bills.
Voted yes.
Senator: Salazar
Amendment 37: Amendment 37 would require certain Colorado utilities to produce or buy a growing portion of their energy from renewable sources such as wind, solar and geothermal. Proponents argue the goals are achievable and won't produce higher bills for ratepayers. Opponents reply that the measure is needlessly inflexible and could very well result in higher bills.
Voted yes.