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I only have one open slot and now have 2 colonists from which to choose who occupies it......El Guapo wrote:So Remus is up for colonist placing, then it's his action choice, then a new turn phase.
Are there more than 2 VP left?Grundbegriff wrote:The game hasn't ended; there are a few more chits. If lunchtime allows, I'll review the shipments.
There are at least two face-down vp chits.Remus West wrote:Are there more than 2 VP left?Grundbegriff wrote:The game hasn't ended; there are a few more chits. If lunchtime allows, I'll review the shipments.
I guess you're unclear about whether you want to win the game or whether you want Moliere to win the game? I can't see any reason why you would pick Craftsman if you want to win, since you'd never get the chance to use the goods produced.Remus West wrote:I really want to craftsman but it is just setting Moliere up for another big haul.
Sigh.
Unsure.
I thought it continued through the end of the round in which the VP are depleted or the building space filled. Is that not the case with the Nobles expansion?Grundbegriff wrote:Let me clarify the ending conditions:
Running out of VP doesn't end the game; running out of VP during Captain ends the game.
Filling up the city tiles doesn't end the game; filling up the city tiles during Builder ends the game.
I mention this nuance because the second condition can only really be satisfied during Builder, but it's entirely possible to run out of VP through some non-Captain mechanism and then continue the game until someone triggers Captain.
Yes, that's right. What I'm saying is that the mere fact of running out of VP chits is insufficient to end the game. Instead, the game ends with the last turn of a round in which Captain is triggered and cannot be satisfied due to the lack of chits.Remus West wrote:I thought it continued through the end of the round in which the VP are depleted or the building space filled. Is that not the case with the Nobles expansion?Grundbegriff wrote:Let me clarify the ending conditions:
Running out of VP doesn't end the game; running out of VP during Captain ends the game.
Filling up the city tiles doesn't end the game; filling up the city tiles during Builder ends the game.
I mention this nuance because the second condition can only really be satisfied during Builder, but it's entirely possible to run out of VP through some non-Captain mechanism and then continue the game until someone triggers Captain.
Ugh. Forgot the #8 boat is nearly full already.El Guapo wrote:I guess you're unclear about whether you want to win the game or whether you want Moliere to win the game? I can't see any reason why you would pick Craftsman if you want to win, since you'd never get the chance to use the goods produced.Remus West wrote:I really want to craftsman but it is just setting Moliere up for another big haul.
Sigh.
Unsure.
ftfyGrundbegriff wrote:6 and 7 are empty. 8 has room for 1 corn. Trading house is empty.
Does running out of chits during the captain phase immediately end the accumulation of VP? Suppose there are 5 VP chits left. Some jerk (let's call him ereiloM) picks Captain and ships goods for 5 VPs. The next player (who happens to be ruggedly handsome) has goods to ship and there's an empty boat. Does he get VPs that phase, or can he not get VPs during the final captain phase because the supply of VP chits ran out during the first player's shipment?Grundbegriff wrote:Yes, that's right. What I'm saying is that the mere fact of running out of VP chits is insufficient to end the game. Instead, the game ends with the last turn of a round in which Captain is triggered and cannot be satisfied due to the lack of chits.Remus West wrote:I thought it continued through the end of the round in which the VP are depleted or the building space filled. Is that not the case with the Nobles expansion?Grundbegriff wrote:Let me clarify the ending conditions:
Running out of VP doesn't end the game; running out of VP during Captain ends the game.
Filling up the city tiles doesn't end the game; filling up the city tiles during Builder ends the game.
I mention this nuance because the second condition can only really be satisfied during Builder, but it's entirely possible to run out of VP through some non-Captain mechanism and then continue the game until someone triggers Captain.
In other words, if you run out of VP (say, via the Church during Builder or Chapel during Craftsman) and nobody in the round selects Captain, then the next round starts.
VPs get tallied on paper if the chits run out. Paper tallied chits count exactly the same as actual chits.El Guapo wrote:Does running out of chits during the captain phase immediately end the accumulation of VP? Suppose there are 5 VP chits left. Some jerk (let's call him ereiloM) picks Captain and ships goods for 5 VPs. The next player (who happens to be ruggedly handsome) has goods to ship and there's an empty boat. Does he get VPs that phase, or can he not get VPs during the final captain phase because the supply of VP chits ran out during the first player's shipment?
This is correct. If this happens, then at game's end you have to get your chits together.Remus West wrote:VPs get tallied on paper if the chits run out. Paper tallied chits count exactly the same as actual chits.
El Guapo wrote:Does running out of chits during the captain phase immediately end the accumulation of VP? Suppose there are 5 VP chits left. Some jerk (let's call him ereiloM) picks Captain and ships goods for 5 VPs. The next player (who happens to be ruggedly handsome) has goods to ship and there's an empty boat. Does he get VPs that phase, or can he not get VPs during the final captain phase because the supply of VP chits ran out during the first player's shipment?
You need to pick a plantation, ereiloM.Moliere wrote:El Guapo wrote:Does running out of chits during the captain phase immediately end the accumulation of VP? Suppose there are 5 VP chits left. Some jerk (let's call him ereiloM) picks Captain and ships goods for 5 VPs. The next player (who happens to be ruggedly handsome) has goods to ship and there's an empty boat. Does he get VPs that phase, or can he not get VPs during the final captain phase because the supply of VP chits ran out during the first player's shipment?
I like how El Guapo continues to fly under the radar in this game making it appear like I will win. My late surge won't be enough to catch his army of Nobles and Captain shipments. And since he is playing this like a ww game I say
El Guapo
Let the fur swing!
Thanks!Vorret wrote:Waste indigo
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Plantations and workers:
[indigo farm_________c] [coffee______________c] [quarry______________c] [coffee______________c]
[quarry______________c] [sugar_______________c] [quarry______________c] [corn________________c]
[coffee______________c] [indigo farm_________c] [indigo farm_________c] [_____________________]
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[hospice_____________c] [sm sugar mill_______c] [wharf_______________c] [_____________________]
[lg indigo plant___ccc] [coffee roaster_____cc] [lg market___________c] [_____________________]
[land office_________c] [harbor______________c] [_____________________] [_____________________]
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Plantations and workers:
[indigo farm_________c] [tobacco farm________c] [sugar farm__________c] [sugar_______________0]
[tobacco farm________c] [quarry______________c] [tobacco farm________c] [_____________________]
[indigo farm_________c] [corn farm___________c] [sugar farm__________c] [_____________________]
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[tobacco storage___ccN] [villa_______________N] [storehouse__________N] [_____________________]
[sm indigo plant_____c] [chapel______________N] [harbor______________N] [_____________________]
[lg market___________c] [lg sugar mill_____NNc] [royal supplier______N] [_____________________]
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[indigo farm_________c] [corn farm___________c] [corn farm___________c] [_____________________]
[sugar farm__________c] [indigo farm_________c] [coffee______________N] [_____________________]
[indigo farm_________c] [indigo farm_________c] [_____________________] [_____________________]
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[sm sugar mill_______c] [specialty factory___N] [CUSTOMS______________] [_____________________]
[lg indigo plant___ccc] [royal supplier______c] [HOUSE_______________c] [_____________________]
[sm indigo plant_____N] [hunting lodge_______c] [_____________________] [_____________________]
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[corn farm___________c] [sugar farm__________c] [quarry______________c] [sugar farm__________c]
[coffee______________c] [quarry______________N] [sugar farm__________c] [_____________________]
[quarry______________c] [quarry______________c] [coffee______________c] [_____________________]
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[chapel______________N] [sm sugar mill_______c] [lg sugar mill_____ccc] [_____________________]
[construction hut____0] [hospice_____________c] [FORT_________________] [_____________________]
[small market________c] [coffee roaster_____Nc] [RESS________________c] [_____________________]
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[corn farm___________c] [corn farm___________c] [corn farm___________c] [coffee______________N]
[sugar farm__________c] [tobacco farm________c] [tobacco farm________c] [sugar farm__________c]
[indigo farm_________c] [corn farm___________c] [tobacco farm________c] [indigo farm_________N]
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Buildings and workers:
[land office_________N] [tobacco storage___cNc] [_____________________] [_____________________]
[lg indigo plant___cc0] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]
[small market________N] [_____________________] [_____________________] [_____________________]
Coffee roaster is a large production building. The large ones are the ones that don't explicitly say "small".NickAragua wrote:For the purposes of the Guild Hall, does the 'coffee roaster' count as a small or large production building?