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Whoever was protected will probably die the next night though as that person can't be protected anymore so it's a safe kill (unless said person is our lynch but I *think* at that point the protector should come forward... maybe... I'm not sure)

Remus West wrote:I stand the same place I did last time everyone was alive and there was a save. The protector should come forward.

The difference between then and now is that we tried to hang our protector with the first lynch vote.

So the protector definitely succeeded, right? I'm not missing any other way for no one to have died?

And since the protector can't protect the same person twice, there's no reason for the wolves to kill anyone other than whomever they targeted last night, right? Unless a special gets outed or something?

Seems like the protector should out themselves if they protected themselves, given the likely death and spoofing potential. Not sure why the protector should out themselves if they protected someone else.

/holds out finger

"Touch, touch...."

Vorret wrote:Whoever was protected will probably die the next night though as that person can't be protected anymore so it's a safe kill (unless said person is our lynch but I *think* at that point the protector should come forward... maybe... I'm not sure)

This is not unlike the start of the other game, where we wolves struck at Holman and he was protected and cost us our first night kill.

That game, we let him ride, because we wanted to get Specials -- but it only became apparent that Holman wasn't a special when we went after Scoop and he declared he was the protector and that he protected Holman, and Holman didn't care that he was likely unprotected...

Guess I am saying that I don't know that it's a sure thing that the protected is targeted again, but Yes, had we not been made to think that Holman wasn't a special - I think we would likely have killed Holman that next night, since we were without a kill and Holman was the only one we knew couldn't be protected.


The protector still can protect if he doesn't stick his neck out...
He can become 'a trusted' player if he come out now and actually declares who he protected... not sure if that's worth it... but - it may be worth it to direct the seer scan's elsewhere...
"Yo See, I am the protector - and I protected Bubba"
-- the Seer would then know not to scan Bubba nor the declared protector.


If the protector protected himself... I guess if I were him - I may declare that, since... well - actually maybe I'd sit on that too.

El Guapo wrote:So the protector definitely succeeded, right? I'm not missing any other way for no one to have died?

And since the protector can't protect the same person twice, there's no reason for the wolves to kill anyone other than whomever they targeted last night, right? Unless a special gets outed or something?

Seems like the protector should out themselves if they protected themselves, given the likely death and spoofing potential. Not sure why the protector should out themselves if they protected someone else.

More or less my point of view I think.

they also could 'now' know of a better target after last night, and hence not revisit their first miss... but unlikely.

I just thought of a Cool Power - for another game. Give the Protector a 1 time real-time PM that he can send via the moderator (like a note he can leave on someone's door).

First off, we shouldn't kill me because last time when I had a successful protection that didn't work out so well.

Secondly, as far as I know I'm the only player (in recent memory) to have a successful protection on night one so you have ask yourself do I want to take that chance. Well, do you punk?


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Scoop20906 wrote:First off, we shouldn't kill me because last time when I had a successful protection that didn't work out so well.

Secondly, as far as I know I'm the only player (in recent memory) to have a successful protection on night one so you have ask yourself do I want to take that chance. Well, do you punk?

Yes

 Scoop20906 
 

Wrong answer, punk. I am NOT the right vote for today. AT ALL.


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Scoop20906 wrote:First off, we shouldn't kill me because last time when I had a successful protection that didn't work out so well.

Secondly, as far as I know I'm the only player (in recent memory) to have a successful protection on night one so you have ask yourself do I want to take that chance. Well, do you punk?


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Are you seriously claiming Protector this game?

The world must be ending....

Scoop20906 wrote:Wrong answer, punk. I am NOT the right vote for today. AT ALL.


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"Touch...touch"

 scoop 
 

Not sure who I am voting for, but for the protector thing, it "might" be a good idea if he outs himself IF he protected himself. Just so there is no spoof down the road and unless the wolves have a better target, we may lose him tonight without knowing. Otherwise, I can't see a good reason to out him on Day 1...
On the other hand I do think it's a GREAT idea for the wolves to out themselves to prevent us from spoofing them down the road....

Newcastle wrote:

Scoop20906 wrote:Wrong answer, punk. I am NOT the right vote for today. AT ALL.


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"Touch...touch"

 scoop 
 

What's that mean? 'Touch touch' ?

Also, you and Moliere are so so so wrong in putting votes there.
He's unconstested , with no one dead.

If scoop isn't the protector, The protector should counter.
IMO
Today, scoop must share who he protected, right?

Wow, good job protector! Now maybe we can learn from our mistake last time and not lynch him. I don't think the protector should come out unless he protected himself. It is most likely the target fron last night will be tonight's target.

Um.
Scoop 'came out' with his first post , 2nd post, and then his 3rd post

Well Scoop says alot of things and I'd rather have him come out and say "Yes, I am X and I protected Y" than post cryptic messages.
Unless he's another special , that's also a possiblity.

Or he doesn't want to die, who knows, it's Scoop.

Unagi wrote:Um.
Scoop 'came out' with his first post , 2nd post, and then his 3rd post

Exactly. He's trying too hard to utilize what happened in a previous game.

And Unagi is trying way too hard to get the protector revealed.

SCOOP: if you're coming out at the Protector, say so. Another vague response will probably make me vote for you, and I really think playing around will look like spoofing.

PROTECTOR (if not Scoop): I think you shouldn't come out unless you protected yourself.

Yeah I'm not really sure whether Scoop is claiming the role or not. He really loves this vague posting stuff.

Holman wrote:And Unagi is trying way too hard to get the protector revealed..

Uhhh?
okay then. We will wait for Scoop the Reallly Reaallllly Realllly say it.

Holman wrote:PROTECTOR (if not Scoop): I think you shouldn't come out unless you protected yourself.

I SAID THE SAME THING!

Holman wrote:SCOOP: if you're coming out at the Protector, say so. Another vague response will probably make me vote for you, and I really think playing around will look like spoofing.

We are after the same truth here.
If Scoop is a good-guy faking Protector - he's playing with fire (the real Protector countering a villager)... So, I take it that he's either a wolf or the protector, and I can't see a wolf doing this 'now' - as I would hope the protector would be ready to counter that (although, I could see waiting a day, if I were "the real protector", right now)

Moliere wrote:

Unagi wrote:Um.
Scoop 'came out' with his first post , 2nd post, and then his 3rd post

Exactly. He's trying too hard to utilize what happened in a previous game.

Wait - a - minute.
You are actually making a vote that is based on something for real here? Who are you, and what have you done with Moliere?

I agree that Scoop needs to clarify. there is no reason for the vagueness.
Although, I don't see any reason that he would come out now. Yes he had some votes towards him, but nothing crazy close yet.

Unagi wrote:

Holman wrote:And Unagi is trying way too hard to get the protector revealed..

Uhhh?
okay then. We will wait for Scoop the Reallly Reaallllly Realllly say it.

Holman wrote:PROTECTOR (if not Scoop): I think you shouldn't come out unless you protected yourself.

I SAID THE SAME THING!

But you were suggesting the Protector come out before Scoop even said anything. It struck me as odd.

Is the Protector supposed to reveal himself just because he had one successful block?

Holman wrote:

Unagi wrote:

Holman wrote:And Unagi is trying way too hard to get the protector revealed..

Uhhh?
okay then. We will wait for Scoop the Reallly Reaallllly Realllly say it.

Holman wrote:PROTECTOR (if not Scoop): I think you shouldn't come out unless you protected yourself.

I SAID THE SAME THING!

But you were suggesting the Protector come out before Scoop even said anything. It struck me as odd.

Is the Protector supposed to reveal himself just because he had one successful block?

I think that the problem is Scoops vagueness... He never said.. I am the Protector... Just some vague posts... but Unagi is taking those posts as Scoop absolutely saying he is the protector, in which case, in Unagi's eyes, the protector has already come out.

I am ready to vote Scoop if things aren't cleared up.

Unagi wrote:You are actually making a vote that is based on something for real here? Who are you, and what have you done with Moliere?

Random voting didn't get me lynched so I thought if I contributed a bunch of analysis and helped the village then they would vote for me.

Moliere wrote:

Unagi wrote:You are actually making a vote that is based on something for real here? Who are you, and what have you done with Moliere?

Random voting didn't get me lynched so I thought if I contributed a bunch of analysis and helped the village then they would vote for me.

Random vote method told me to go with
 Grudbegriff 
 

Punisher wrote:
I think that the problem is Scoops vagueness... He never said.. I am the Protector... Just some vague posts... but Unagi is taking those posts as Scoop absolutely saying he is the protector, in which case, in Unagi's eyes, the protector has already come out.

I am ready to vote Scoop if things aren't cleared up.

I think Scoop is claiming Protector. It's a high risk move for a wolf right now so for the moment I'm in the "he's telling the truth" camp.

First off can we get over the fact that yet again no one died yet so I'm not spoofing anything, right?

Anddddd this game I can self-protection, right??

Sooooo don't vote for me, right?

The wolves know who they attacked so I'm pretty sure that since they missed last night they are going to attack again, right?

So I'm either dead tonight or someone else is, right??

Either way, I'm the wrong target today, right???


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Anyway, not really sure what Scoop's game is here, BUT.

I am the agent (protector). I nobly protected myself last night, hence I am outing myself in light of my most certain death, although I wanted to confirm that that made sense (and to see what interesting stuff people might say).

Tis a far far better thing that I do, than I have ever done. Tis a far far better place that I go to, than I have ever known.

This has nothing to do with this game but it came up when I did a google image search for "wrong", and it amuses me:

Oh well, I was hoping you bravely protected someone else and could keep quiet and I could draw some cover. It was worth a shot.

Also, nice job!


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But you sure waited long enough to announce.


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Scoop20906 wrote:But you sure waited long enough to announce.


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Ugh... You know this paints you in a bad light, right? Why spoof a role.... It only helps the wolves.

I am still not inclined to kill Scoop on day one.

Using my anyone from Michigan is bad, I am going to vote for

 BB2112 
 

El Guapo wrote:Anyway, not really sure what Scoop's game is here, BUT.

I am the agent (protector). I nobly protected myself last night, hence I am outing myself in light of my most certain death, although I wanted to confirm that that made sense (and to see what interesting stuff people might say).

Tis a far far better thing that I do, than I have ever done. Tis a far far better place that I go to, than I have ever known.

Where's your Scoop vote?

Moliere wrote:

El Guapo wrote:Anyway, not really sure what Scoop's game is here, BUT.

I am the agent (protector). I nobly protected myself last night, hence I am outing myself in light of my most certain death, although I wanted to confirm that that made sense (and to see what interesting stuff people might say).

Tis a far far better thing that I do, than I have ever done. Tis a far far better place that I go to, than I have ever known.

Where's your Scoop vote?

I am almost sure Scoop is not a wolf, he is just playing his game. The voices in his head tell him to do things, and he does them.

RMC wrote:I am almost sure Scoop is not a wolf, he is just playing his game. The voices in his head tell him to do things, and he does them.

I didn't realize you were such a Scoop sympathizer. #NeverScoop

Moliere wrote:

RMC wrote:I am almost sure Scoop is not a wolf, he is just playing his game. The voices in his head tell him to do things, and he does them.

I didn't realize you were such a Scoop sympathizer. #NeverScoop

heh. We go way back.

Just stating my opinion of his playstyle that is all.

Wow. A clusterfuck already.

Tell me again why we're not voting for Scoop then RMC? Because this is bizarre.