Octopus Overlords

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:35 pm**

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:27 pm
Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 2:12 pm give a man a fish...
Stop it with your brevity and efficiency!

It's rare for me.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:21 pm**

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:17 pm
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:05 pm
Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:31 am but why 6x8=48.

I still don't know the answer to this. IS there an answer to this?!

I think the usual answer is that mathematics is a self-contained, self-referential language whose rules are defined only in relation to other mathematical concepts. Because it ultimately doesn't refer to anything outside of mathematics, it's not subject to the changes and interpretations that other-referential systems (such as all human languages) must deal with. Thus, 2+2=4 is always true (given base 10, etc) in a way that "warfare is politics by other means" can never be.

We casually assume that we use mathematics to talk about the world ("Johnny has two apples and Jackie has two apples..."). In fact, when we appeal to mathematics for answers about the real world, we are not translating math into the world but translating the world into math. Thus, the potentially complex question is not "what is 2?" but "what is one apple?"

I'm sure I'm drastically simplifying, but, hey, Humanities guy here.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:19 pm**

Holman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:21 pm We casually assume that we use mathematics to talk about the world ("Johnny has two apples and Jackie has two apples..."). In fact, when we appeal to mathematics for answers about the real world, we are not translating math into the world but translating the world into math. Thus, the potentially complex question is not "what is 2?" but "what is one apple?"

I'm sure I'm drastically simplifying, but, hey, Humanities guy here.

Drastically simplifying, he says, as he finishes writing a paragraph that sounds like a mystic trying to describe the inner workings of the astral plane.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:26 pm**

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:31 am but why 6x8=48.

Wait until they learn that this is only true for really large values of 6 and 8.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:35 pm**

The angles of a triangle are only 180 degrees if your spacetime is not curved.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:17 pm**

Smoove_B wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 5:26 pm
Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:31 am but why 6x8=48.
Wait until they learn that this is only true for really large values of 6 and 8.

They've both graduated. If they haven't learned it by now, they're not going to.

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:52 pm**

Holman wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 4:21 pm
Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 5:17 pm
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 3:05 pm
Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Nov 03, 2023 10:31 am but why 6x8=48.

I still don't know the answer to this. IS there an answer to this?!
I think the usual answer is that mathematics is a self-contained, self-referential language whose rules are defined only in relation to other mathematical concepts. Because it ultimately doesn't refer to anything outside of mathematics, it's not subject to the changes and interpretations that other-referential systems (such as all human languages) must deal with. Thus, 2+2=4 is always true (given base 10, etc) in a way that "warfare is politics by other means" can never be.

We casually assume that we use mathematics to talk about the world ("Johnny has two apples and Jackie has two apples..."). In fact, when we appeal to mathematics for answers about the real world, we are not translating math into the world but translating the world into math. Thus, the potentially complex question is not "what is 2?" but "what is one apple?"

I'm sure I'm drastically simplifying, but, hey, Humanities guy here.

Excellent! Thanks, ChatGPHolman!

Posted: **Sat Nov 04, 2023 8:10 pm**

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sat Nov 04, 2023 6:52 pm Excellent! Thanks, ChatGPHolman!

You wound me, sir!

Posted: **Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:50 pm**

And this is what qualifies as a sensible Republican these days, if I understand that correctly.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 11:44 am**

Tucker Carlson invited to speak in Alberta. And interview and discussion with premier Danielle Smith to follow.

Calgary Herald

Asked about it, the premier's press secretary shrugged it off as just another meeting with a journalist.

“Obviously, she does not subscribe to every view of every interviewer or reporter she speaks with whether that’s the CBC, the Toronto Star, or Tucker Carlson.

So that's hilarious. I'm sure there are more than a few Albertans who think Carlson is the bees knees, but some of the tweets I've seen are hilariously anti-Carlson.

Paraphrasing one I saw "Thank god the province has figured out a way to spend our money that doesn't include healthcare, economy, or *somethingsomethingIcantremember*".

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm**

Is Alberta the Alabama of Canada, or something?

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:23 pm**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm Is Alberta the Alabama of Canada, or something?

Spoiler:

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:12 pm**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm Is Alberta the Alabama of Canada, or something?

I think they fancy themselves Texas. Oil, guns, pickup trucks, religion, conservative, angry at the rest of us.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:22 pm**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm Is Alberta the Alabama of Canada, or something?

It's the pretty much the most Conservative area. As mentioned it's oil country. Edmonton and Calgary all trade in shale oil and have a frontier spirit. I was just there a few months ago and they weren't overtly all that political compared to say MAGA land. Calgary feels a little bit like Austin to me to be honest.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 2:17 pm**

Maybe if the Texans all move to Montana, they can get together with Alberta and form their own nation.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:31 pm**

Saskatchewan would probably want in on that action. They seem to be trying to out-Alberta Alberta these days. I tend to think of them as Canada's Florida, while Alberta is traditionally Canada's Texas.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:35 pm**

As an aside, do all of Canada's financial fraudsters live in Vancouver?

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:51 pm**

malchior wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 1:22 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:19 pm Is Alberta the Alabama of Canada, or something?
It's the pretty much the most Conservative area. As mentioned it's oil country. Edmonton and Calgary all trade in shale oil and have a frontier spirit. I was just there a few months ago and they weren't overtly all that political compared to say MAGA land. Calgary feels a little bit like Austin to me to be honest.

Eew.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:37 pm**

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:35 pm As an aside, do all of Canada's financial fraudsters live in Vancouver?

Yes.

I have somewhat racist views on that based on zero evidence, so no more comment. Hah. It's not as bad as that sounds.

edit: Unless you include politicians, in which case Ontario does just fine.

Posted: **Wed Nov 08, 2023 4:39 pm**

Max Peck wrote: ↑Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:31 pm Saskatchewan would probably want in on that action. They seem to be trying to out-Alberta Alberta these days. I tend to think of them as Canada's Florida, while Alberta is traditionally Canada's Texas.

Saskatchewan is hit or miss (imo), but Alberta is always role playing as Texas.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 3:37 pm**

Behold the grandeur of their deliberation!

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:14 pm**

Look at that fucking guy (Alabama senator) grinning his ass off while he puts hundreds of people's careers on hold and cripples the military's ability to function.

There should be a professional slapper slapping his face every time he opens his mouth.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 6:43 pm**

NYC mayor Eric Adams is under suspicion of campaign funding violations, including acceptance of secret payments from Turkey.

Last night he was approached by FBI agents who immediately seized his phones.

Adams is such a weird guy. Turkey? Really?

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:18 pm**

...well, it IS almost Thanksgiving!

...

...yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'll go now.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:25 pm**

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:18 pm ...well, it IS almost Thanksgiving!

...

...yeah, I'm sorry about that. I'll go now.

I was working on a WKRP joke (something about "that'll never fly..."), but you saved me the shame.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:48 pm**

Richard Adjacent strikes again.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:16 pm**

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:48 pm Richard Adjacent strikes again.

Please. SIR Richard Adjacent....The Third.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:24 pm**

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 8:16 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 7:48 pm Richard Adjacent strikes again.
Please. SIR Richard Adjacent....The Third.

He's in several medical journals.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:20 pm**

Jesus, whatever you do, don’t bring up medical oddities around carpet. He’s got images that can scar you for life, and he’s not afraid to use them.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:19 pm**

hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 9:20 pm Jesus, whatever you do, don’t bring up medical oddities around carpet. He’s got images that can scar you for life, and he’s not afraid to use them.

You refer to the reverse thigh pics, yes? LOL...those are from my "Category 1" pic library level...i.e. "safe for all viewers", and "will not possibly cause scarring". Category 3 is where things get interesting, and have been known to cause teeth gnashing and hair pulling. Don't tempt me.

Posted: **Fri Nov 10, 2023 10:27 pm**

Well, I do have a rather large indentation behind one of my clavicles that's a little hard to describe, and my neck is asymmetrical, with the right side wider than the left...

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:07 pm**

Holman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 10:45 am Weird development out of Argentina:

They recently had an election where extremist Libertarian "mini-Trump" Javier Milei was considered the favorite. In the final tally, he came in second to a center-left candidate, so now there will be a run-off.

But in an interview last night, well... You don't even have to speak Spanish to get the gist.

Today is the day. Milei is slightly favored.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:24 pm**

says not found on my end..I see nothing.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 4:26 pm**

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 10, 2023 4:14 pm Look at that fucking guy (Alabama senator) grinning his ass off while he puts hundreds of people's careers on hold and cripples the military's ability to function.

There should be a professional slapper slapping his face every time he opens his mouth.

This....and hard.

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 9:57 pm**

And Milei wins handily-

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... l-concedes

Posted: **Sun Nov 19, 2023 11:59 pm**

The political establishment in Argentina uniting behind the finance Minister when inflation is running 140% seemed like a solid plan. How did it go wrong!?

Posted: **Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:01 pm**

It's going to be nuts. I assume there will be calls for his resignation within 6 months.

The question will be whether the military sides with him.

Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:11 am**

The man had a VERY awkward and disturbing paranoid (schizophrenic?) episode during an interview that aired on TV. Not sure if it was this thread, but somewhere I called it that that ended his political career, it was so bad.

I would say I can't possibly understand how anyone would vote for him after that, but we have our own little special example...and to be clear, I'm talking about Trump, here.

Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:14 pm**

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2023 1:11 am The man had a VERY awkward and disturbing paranoid (schizophrenic?) episode during an interview that aired on TV. Not sure if it was this thread, but somewhere I called it that that ended his political career, it was so bad.

I would say I can't possibly understand how anyone would vote for him after that, but we have our own little special example...and to be clear, I'm talking about Trump, here.

This is a case of Argentina being willing to try *anything* but the status quo.

They've got inflation over %140 and a history of of swapping back and forth between dictatorships and elected leaders within living memory. I believe they've made a huge mistake here, but it's not one that's impossible to explain.

Posted: **Wed Nov 22, 2023 3:36 pm**

So is Milei's big plan just austerity?

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