Secret Hitler
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- Moliere
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Re: Secret Hitler
You should nominate bb2112 so we can have another 7-2 rejected slate.Grundbegriff wrote:Action on El Guapo: Please nominate as chancellor someone not in the set {Vorret, Holman}.
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Re: Secret Hitler
We used to have cool elections with people selling their salad
The passion is gone, we need therapy!
The passion is gone, we need therapy!
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Hey Grund, here's my NO vote on anyone who isn't LordMortis as El Gestapos Chancellor.
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Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Scoop20906
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Re: Secret Hitler
Go card flip!!
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Re: Secret Hitler
PMs only so one vote does not influence another.Chaosraven wrote:Hey Grund, here's my NO vote on anyone who isn't LordMortis as El Gestapos Chancellor.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Great, another opportunity to be handed 2 F cards. Please vote NO.El Guapo wrote: Moliere
Is the people's chancellor.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Another opportunity for the Rheinvolk to prove their great worth.El Guapo wrote: Moliere
Is the people's chancellor.
What say ye? YES or NO (by PM) to the El Guapo/Moliere ticket?
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Re: Secret Hitler
I'm feeling a real groundswell here. 9-0 vote for El Guapo! And whomever else it was that he picked.
Black Lives Matter.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I need votes from Remus West, Scoop20906, and Vorret.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I checked with them, and they told me to tell you that they vote yes.Grundbegriff wrote:I need votes from Remus West, Scoop20906, and Vorret.
Black Lives Matter.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Good to hear you got the fascist forum up and running for this game.El Guapo wrote:I checked with them, and they told me to tell you that they vote yes.Grundbegriff wrote:I need votes from Remus West, Scoop20906, and Vorret.
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Re: Secret Hitler
The election of El Guapo/Moliere fails on a vote of 7 to 2.
bb2112 YES
Chaosraven NO
El Guapo YES
Holman NO
Molière NO
Remus West NO
Scoop20906 NO
stessier NO
Vorret NO
The failed election counter moves to 3. Random.org enacts the following policy:
FASCIST POLICY
The failed election counter moves to 0.
Veto power is unlocked.
Here's where we stand:
Final Roster
Deck 2 contained: 8 Fascist Policies and 4 Liberal Policies, shuffled.
Talon count: 4
Discard count: 4
Enacted count: 9 (4 LIBERAL, 5 FASCIST)
Electoral History So Far:
Action on Holman: Please nominate as chancellor anyone you wish. Everyone is eligible because of the auto-enactment.
bb2112 YES
Chaosraven NO
El Guapo YES
Holman NO
Molière NO
Remus West NO
Scoop20906 NO
stessier NO
Vorret NO
The failed election counter moves to 3. Random.org enacts the following policy:
FASCIST POLICY
The failed election counter moves to 0.
Veto power is unlocked.
Here's where we stand:
Final Roster
- bb2112
- Chaosraven
- El Guapo
- Holman <----- The new Presidential Nominee
- Molière
- Remus West
- Scoop20906
- stessier
- Vorret
- 5 Liberals
- 3 normal Fascists
- 1 Hitler Fascist
- Elections whiffed: 0
- 1st Policy Passed? Yes
- 2nd Policy Passed? Yes
- 3rd Policy Passed? Yes
- 4th Policy Passed? Yes
- 5th Policy Passed? No
- 1st Policy Passed (Chaosraven investigated bb2112's identity)? Yes
- 2nd Policy Passed (Holman investigated Chaosraven's identity)? Yes
- 3rd Policy Passed (Moliere selects as the next Presidential candidate)? Yes
- 4th Policy Passed (Assassination obviated by popular uprising)? Yes
- 5th Policy Passed (Assassination obviated by popular uprising)? Yes
- 6th Policy Passed (Fascist Victory)? No
Deck 2 contained: 8 Fascist Policies and 4 Liberal Policies, shuffled.
Talon count: 4
Discard count: 4
Enacted count: 9 (4 LIBERAL, 5 FASCIST)
Electoral History So Far:
Code: Select all
1. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & El Guapo
2. LIBERAL POLICY, bb2112 & Holman
3. FASCIST POLICY, Chaosraven & El Guapo
4. rejected slate, El Guapo & Holman
5. FASCIST POLICY, Holman & Vorret
6. FASCIST POLICY, Moliere & Scoop20906
7. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & Holman
8. rejected slate, Remus West & Chaosraven
9. rejected slate, Scoop20906 & Chaosraven
10a. rejected slate, stessier & El Guapo
10b. FASCIST POLICY autoenacted.
11. LIBERAL POLICY, Vorret & Holman
12. rejected slate, bb2112 & Moliere
13. rejected slate, Chaosraven & Remus West
14a. rejected slate, El Guapo & Moliere
14b. FASCIST POLICY autoenacted.
Action on Holman: Please nominate as chancellor anyone you wish. Everyone is eligible because of the auto-enactment.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Of course.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I suppose a Liberal flip would have been anti-climax anyway.
OK, let's win this thing for the good guys.
Chaosraven
OK, let's win this thing for the good guys.
Chaosraven
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Re: Secret Hitler
Dude! Are you serious?
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Re: Secret Hitler
Presidential candidate Holman has nominated Chaosraven for chancellor. PM me your vote, whether YES or NO.
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Re: Secret Hitler
What do you mean? I scanned Chaosraven. He's Liberal.Scoop20906 wrote:Dude! Are you serious?
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Exactly and it's too obvious. No way I'm voting for this ticket.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Then you are a Fascist.
If Holman passes me a L we win.
If Holman passes me a L we win.
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
Sweet sweet meat come. -LordMortis
- Scoop20906
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Re: Secret Hitler
Or you could be hitler and we lose. No deal.Chaosraven wrote:Then you are a Fascist.
If Holman passes me a L we win.
Vorret was a safer choice.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I've been supporting Chaosraven for more than half the game, ever since I scanned him. Where have you been?Scoop20906 wrote:Exactly and it's too obvious. No way I'm voting for this ticket.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Vorret hasn't been Chancellor since the threshold any more than Chaosraven has. I've scanned CR, not Vorret.Scoop20906 wrote:Or you could be hitler and we lose. No deal.Chaosraven wrote:Then you are a Fascist.
If Holman passes me a L we win.
Vorret was a safer choice.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
- Scoop20906
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Re: Secret Hitler
Frankly Holman it's just your word and now we are up against the limit. I was hoping we won with the flip but of course we didn't.Holman wrote:Vorret hasn't been Chancellor since the threshold any more than Chaosraven has. I've scanned CR, not Vorret.Scoop20906 wrote:Or you could be hitler and we lose. No deal.Chaosraven wrote:Then you are a Fascist.
If Holman passes me a L we win.
Vorret was a safer choice.
I made it clear that I don't trust your word about chaosraven. It's too convenient.
I'd feel better about this ticket if you hadn't made your proclamation about him.
As it us it feels like a set up. I made it clear I thought vorret was the safer choice so my vote is now. I hope the others see we can't this risk at the very end of the fame.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Autocorrect hates me.
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Re: Secret Hitler
All of your drama here at the end reads Bad Guy to me, but it doesn't matter. We'll win this turn.
I've been pushing Chaosraven as my ally from the 5th round of the game, when I got my scan (which clarified him, bb2112, and El Guapo all at once). It's now the 12th round.
Vorret has been acting reliably Liberal, and I have little doubt that he is so. But he *could* still be Hitler playing a brilliant game. (The fact that he has never pushed for his own Chancellorship as we moved towards the present round is further evidence that he is good.) He's almost certainly Liberal, but I know 100% that Chaosraven is.
Consider this: if I'm a bad guy, isn't it likely that Vorret (my regular administrative partner) has been bad as well? If you don't trust me, you can't trust him. Why would you?
I've been pushing Chaosraven as my ally from the 5th round of the game, when I got my scan (which clarified him, bb2112, and El Guapo all at once). It's now the 12th round.
Vorret has been acting reliably Liberal, and I have little doubt that he is so. But he *could* still be Hitler playing a brilliant game. (The fact that he has never pushed for his own Chancellorship as we moved towards the present round is further evidence that he is good.) He's almost certainly Liberal, but I know 100% that Chaosraven is.
Consider this: if I'm a bad guy, isn't it likely that Vorret (my regular administrative partner) has been bad as well? If you don't trust me, you can't trust him. Why would you?
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- Scoop20906
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Re: Secret Hitler
Yeah I can't figure out your game. It doesn't make sense to me. I am confused.
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Re: Secret Hitler
15th.Holman wrote:It's now the 12th round.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I've been 100% consistent: this game is straightforward when you're a Liberal and you've had a scan.Scoop20906 wrote:Yeah I can't figure out your game. It doesn't make sense to me. I am confused.
What doesn't make sense?
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Re: Secret Hitler
Oops. Something double digitty anyway.Grundbegriff wrote:15th.Holman wrote:It's now the 12th round.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: Secret Hitler
You consistently refuse to acknowledge my concern. You have been working very hard to portray Chaosraven and yourself as a liberal so you can choose him as hitler.
I don't care what you say you scan him as.
You and Vorret have been successful over and over but now you choose a different partner at s crucial point in the game.
Of course you make good points. It doesn't change that this was the wrong move and it makes me very uncomfortable.
I don't care what you say you scan him as.
You and Vorret have been successful over and over but now you choose a different partner at s crucial point in the game.
Of course you make good points. It doesn't change that this was the wrong move and it makes me very uncomfortable.
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Re: Secret Hitler
So, Scoop, if you vote no here are you intending to go to another flip or are you intending to vote for my ticket (since you proclaimed Moliete Fascist)?
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Re: Secret Hitler
I chose the safest possible partner: the one I've scanned. I was under the impression that other players expected this move, which is why your "concern" baffles me. (Except it doesn't, as I believe you're just blowing smoke appropriate to your role.)Scoop20906 wrote:You consistently refuse to acknowledge my concern. You have been working very hard to portray Chaosraven and yourself as a liberal so you can choose him as hitler.
I don't care what you say you scan him as.
You and Vorret have been successful over and over but now you choose a different partner at s crucial point in the game.
Of course you make good points. It doesn't change that this was the wrong move and it makes me very uncomfortable.
Remember, Scoop's trust in Vorret is based on my success with him, just as his trust in me is based on Vorret's success with me. It's nonsensical for him to doubt me because I didn't pick Vorret instead of the player I've been pushing as 100% Liberal for most of the game.: if he doubts me now, he should doubt Vorret now.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: Secret Hitler
I don't know yet. Holman surprised me with his selection. I thought we were going to make the safer/smarter choice.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Vorret, if you are a fascist you HAD to play a liberal game if you wanted to protect your scan of chaos. Why do you discount this? You must have a reason too.Holman wrote:I chose the safest possible partner: the one I've scanned. I was under the impression that other players expected this move, which is why your "concern" baffles me. (Except it doesn't, as I believe you're just blowing smoke appropriate to your role.)Scoop20906 wrote:You consistently refuse to acknowledge my concern. You have been working very hard to portray Chaosraven and yourself as a liberal so you can choose him as hitler.
I don't care what you say you scan him as.
You and Vorret have been successful over and over but now you choose a different partner at s crucial point in the game.
Of course you make good points. It doesn't change that this was the wrong move and it makes me very uncomfortable.
Remember, Scoop's trust in Vorret is based on my success with him, just as his trust in me is based on Vorret's success with me. It's nonsensical for him to doubt me because I didn't pick Vorret instead of the player I've been pushing as 100% Liberal for most of the game.: if he doubts me now, he should doubt Vorret now.
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Re: Secret Hitler
Do you feel comfortable with this ticket?Remus West wrote:So, Scoop, if you vote no here are you intending to go to another flip or are you intending to vote for my ticket (since you proclaimed Moliete Fascist)?
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Re: Secret Hitler
Which is exactly what he has told you he did. Vorret could be Hitler since he has not been Chancellor since the reset.Scoop20906 wrote:I don't know yet. Holman surprised me with his selection. I thought we were going to make the safer/smarter choice.
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Re: Secret Hitler
[I assume you're talking to me and not Vorret.] It doesn't even occur to me as something to worry about. I'm Liberal, CR is Liberal.Scoop20906 wrote: Vorret, if you are a fascist you HAD to play a liberal game if you wanted to protect your scan of chaos. Why do you discount this? You must have a reason too.
Surely you can see that if I'm a Liberal then CR is the only safe choice for me--no Liberal in my position (as I am) would make a different choice. From where I sit, Vorret has been a great help but is not 100% known. I could lose the game by picking him.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.