Scoop20906 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 20, 2024 9:55 am
I haven't had a chance to join anyone's game on here but thats mainly due to the fact that no one has been on when I get a few minutes to get a mission in. I will keep looking for you guys.
I wanted to pass on this great video about how patrol's spawn and how mission map heat is generated. It gave me some great ideas on how to tackle missions in the future. You don't get XP for kills but only for objectives. Check it out:
Yeah, I learned a lot about patrols while playing with Montag. And it makes a difference in gameplay when you play with a group that has a "kill em all" mindset and aggroing all the patrols versus ones that pretend they are a Ghost Recon team and avoiding patrols unless absolutely necessary. Also, I will point out that if you kill the patrol fast enough they don't get to send out an alarm and trigger a bug hole outbreak. Grenade launcher is prefect for this as two hits usually get all the patrol bugs pretty quickly.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 am
by waitingtoconnect
Yes you are basically commandos not regular infantry. So that means hit and run, hit and fade and use of artillery in a sensible manner.
Knocking out the bug legs or using a turret or orbital laser to hold off the enemy while you make good your escape is also invaluable. Had a good game with scoop earlier; looking forward to more games. Tragically we did not escape but we did ride a 500kg bomb for liberty like true patriots.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri Mar 22, 2024 10:20 am
by Scoop20906
waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2024 6:35 am
Tragically we did not escape but we did ride a 500kg bomb for liberty like true patriots.
LOL! Yeah we got mobbed at EVAC so I tossed a 500kg bomb thinking we had enough space. We did not. LOL.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat Mar 23, 2024 3:44 pm
by raydude
Had a great couple of games with random people today. One was with someone on challenging difficulty. He set the pace and we knocked out all the bug holes and cleared all the objectives on the map. I ran with my trusty grenade launcher and it closed up those bug holes pretty quick. We were coordinating even though we didn't speak over voice. He or I would get killed a few times and we were down to 4 reinforcements at the end but we made it.
Then another random game on medium with 3 other people. We also jelled there even though none of us were on voice. Truly memorable moment at the end when we stood behind the Pelican and gave each other hugs. And finally, that same group of people came with me on the 2nd mission - kill 225 bugs. We made it fine to the end when one of them got killed, Pelican was on the ground and an ion storm came up. In true "no man gets left behind" fashion, we waited for the storm to end, threw down a reinforcement, and got on the Pelican as a full 4 man squad. It was awesome.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2024 8:26 pm
by Daehawk
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat Mar 30, 2024 5:31 pm
by Daehawk
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:29 am
by naednek
picked up the game while on vacation, it's fun, but it's a bit repetitive.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:53 pm
by Scoop20906
naednek wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:29 am
picked up the game while on vacation, it's fun, but it's a bit repetitive.
Missions get more complex as you raise the difficulty. If you get into the meta you start to see the big picture and what each mission you succeed at leads to.
I suggest checking out https://helldivers.io/ to see what planets are currently in play and how that affect the current Major Order from the Earth Command. Also, the Super Earth Galactic War Data Archive does a daily or bi-daily update video that talks about the state of the war and the current Major Order. It helps me with the immersion into the live service part of the game.
For Super Earth!
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:39 am
by stessier
I really want to try this, but my computer is too old to play. Did the last Helldivers have legs? If it takes me a year before I can play, will the meta game still be there?
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 11:30 am
by Scoop20906
stessier wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:39 am
I really want to try this, but my computer is too old to play. Did the last Helldivers have legs? If it takes me a year before I can play, will the meta game still be there?
Truthfully, I don't see this game winding down a year from now. People will still be playing and you will probably have at least two new enemies to contest with as well.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:49 am
by naednek
So the developer introduced a stupid thing in today's patch where your character shows up covered in blood after returning to your ship from a mission.
While the game uses guns and is violent, I was able to compromise that the blood you saw before this change was from shooting up bugs and the automatons just sparked. Now this takes the game in a different direction. If it was green blood to continue the theme of killing bugs it probably be ok. But instead, it's portrayed as human blood and quite gory.
My son is 14 and I have to admit I was well into shooters back when I was his age. I'm more worried when the wife walks into my son's room when he is playing. We've managed to hold most of these types of games off because he mainly plays Roblox and Fortnite, as it's more cartoony than realistic in the setting.
It just sucks because the game out of the "box" didn't have this, and then I let him play, and now they changed without warning.
I checked the settings and couldn't find any options to turn it off. I wish that was an option.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 6:48 pm
by Scoop20906
naednek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:49 am
So the developer introduced a stupid thing in today's patch where your character shows up covered in blood after returning to your ship from a mission.
While the game uses guns and is violent, I was able to compromise that the blood you saw before this change was from shooting up bugs and the automatons just sparked. Now this takes the game in a different direction. If it was green blood to continue the theme of killing bugs it probably be ok. But instead, it's portrayed as human blood and quite gory.
My son is 14 and I have to admit I was well into shooters back when I was his age. I'm more worried when the wife walks into my son's room when he is playing. We've managed to hold most of these types of games off because he mainly plays Roblox and Fortnite, as it's more cartoony than realistic in the setting.
It just sucks because the game out of the "box" didn't have this, and then I let him play, and now they changed without warning.
I checked the settings and couldn't find any options to turn it off. I wish that was an option.
Dude, it is so jarring. I can understand people being like so what the game is bloody mayhem but when you in a battle and there is so much going on you barely notice all the blood but at the match end salutes and there is gobbs of blood everywhere and you wife happens in and WTF are you showing to our precious child you bastard. Yeah I get it.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2024 7:07 pm
by Scoop20906
For those interested in the space opera aspect of our game, a recent development has seen Super Earth successfully eliminate one of its factions, the Automatons. With this obstacle out of the way, High Command has ordered the Helldrivers to subjugate the remaining faction, the Terminids, and relocate them to open range farms where they can be used as a source of E170, a vital resource for our economy. While rumors of a potential third faction attacking Super Earth have surfaced, I remain skeptical. For now, it seems that Super Earth has emerged victorious.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 5:38 am
by Ibby
naednek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:49 am
So the developer introduced a stupid thing in today's patch where your character shows up covered in blood after returning to your ship from a mission.
While the game uses guns and is violent, I was able to compromise that the blood you saw before this change was from shooting up bugs and the automatons just sparked. Now this takes the game in a different direction. If it was green blood to continue the theme of killing bugs it probably be ok. But instead, it's portrayed as human blood and quite gory.
My son is 14 and I have to admit I was well into shooters back when I was his age. I'm more worried when the wife walks into my son's room when he is playing. We've managed to hold most of these types of games off because he mainly plays Roblox and Fortnite, as it's more cartoony than realistic in the setting.
It just sucks because the game out of the "box" didn't have this, and then I let him play, and now they changed without warning.
I checked the settings and couldn't find any options to turn it off. I wish that was an option.
I don't think it's an option yet, but seeing as how it's something added after release, you'd think they'd let you choose between clean or covered-in-gore.
Glad you could jump in the missions my son and I were doing tonight. Join in anytime.
naednek wrote: ↑Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:49 am
So the developer introduced a stupid thing in today's patch where your character shows up covered in blood after returning to your ship from a mission.
While the game uses guns and is violent, I was able to compromise that the blood you saw before this change was from shooting up bugs and the automatons just sparked. Now this takes the game in a different direction. If it was green blood to continue the theme of killing bugs it probably be ok. But instead, it's portrayed as human blood and quite gory.
My son is 14 and I have to admit I was well into shooters back when I was his age. I'm more worried when the wife walks into my son's room when he is playing. We've managed to hold most of these types of games off because he mainly plays Roblox and Fortnite, as it's more cartoony than realistic in the setting.
It just sucks because the game out of the "box" didn't have this, and then I let him play, and now they changed without warning.
I checked the settings and couldn't find any options to turn it off. I wish that was an option.
I don't think it's an option yet, but seeing as how it's something added after release, you'd think they'd let you choose between clean or covered-in-gore.
Glad you could jump in the missions my son and I were doing tonight. Join in anytime.
Ya having an option would have been great.
I had a lot of fun last night. So for calling the 2 air strikes on us I thought I was calling in my Stalward and that backpack accessory It was too late to warn when I realized what I had done.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:18 pm
by Zarathud
The friends feature is pretty clumsy, but I’m having fun. I’ve gone from following someone of a higher level to being able to coordinate with others. Now if I could just stop stepping in fire, getting hit by rockets or just jump away from spit….
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:52 pm
by Scoop20906
Zarathud wrote: ↑Tue Apr 09, 2024 1:18 pm
The friends feature is pretty clumsy, but I’m having fun. I’ve gone from following someone of a higher level to being able to coordinate with others. Now if I could just stop stepping in fire, getting hit by rockets or just jump away from spit….
OMG! Those firestorms on Hellmire are insane!!
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 4:24 pm
by Zarathud
Even just a little flame is too much with the last patch.
And not being able to swim is bullshit.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 am
by Zarathud
Still don't have a good handle on this adding friends the hard way in Helldivers. Sigh.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 10:27 am
by Montag
Zarathud wrote: ↑Wed Apr 10, 2024 12:27 am
Still don't have a good handle on this adding friends the hard way in Helldivers. Sigh.
Steam or PS5? Either way you can generate your friend code number in the Social area or I think enter a friend code. If Steam, then Steam friends should already be available.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 11:23 pm
by Ibby
Two thumbs up on the new Helm's Deep defense missions against the bots. My son and I did a bunch at difficulty 7, and just had a blast.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2024 12:30 am
by Scoop20906
This one gets me in the feels a few times now:
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:06 am
by waitingtoconnect
Just a reminder for newer players my friend code is 7456-3181
I’m gadget walrus on psn. It won’t accept Waitingtoconnect as it’s too long
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:17 am
by Unagi
waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:06 am
I’m gadget walrus on psn. It won’t accept Waitingtoconnect as it’s too long
Oh the irony. I assume you have than user name due to some origin story of not being able to connect to some game. (likely baud related)
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2024 12:23 pm
by Montag
So close to being fully upgraded. Less than 30 medals and less than 30 orange samples and everything is unlocked. Greatly enjoying this game. I have been able to play with my daughter, brother, and nephews. User name is Montag. I would be glad to help lower levels and take the lower levels on higher difficulty - no promise of success though I usally play lower levels to get the daily minor order.
waitingtoconnect wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2024 3:06 am
I’m gadget walrus on psn. It won’t accept Waitingtoconnect as it’s too long
Oh the irony. I assume you have than user name due to some origin story of not being able to connect to some game. (likely baud related)
Haha yes indeed I do - back in the old CS 1.6, Starfleet Command and Red Alert 2 days...
For some reason psn said you could have 16 character user names back in 2009 when I first got PSN, but didn't let me do it, waitingtoconnect being 16 characters and it said it was too long, so I had to settle on another choice. I've tried changing it when the option became available but again it says its not available.
Had a few good games with Montag; enjoying the game so far just don't have the hours to play that I want haha.
stessier wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 9:39 am
I really want to try this, but my computer is too old to play. Did the last Helldivers have legs? If it takes me a year before I can play, will the meta game still be there?
Truthfully, I don't see this game winding down a year from now. People will still be playing and you will probably have at least two new enemies to contest with as well.
Well.. I thought you were probably right, but unless they rollback the recent announcement that this game will REQUIRE a Playstation Network Account, it's going to soon be dead.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 9:47 pm
by hepcat
I stopped playing after a couple of English guys that got stuck with me in a quick match game called me “Bullocks Boy” and “Mayor of Wankerton” because I sucked.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:47 pm
by Blackhawk
Archinerd wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:43 pm
Well.. I thought you were probably right, but unless they rollback the recent announcement that this game will REQUIRE a Playstation Network Account, it's going to soon be dead.
From what I've read, it's not a new thing. It's always been that way, it's always been listed on the Steam page as being mandatory - they just hadn't been able to implement certain aspects of it until now for technical reason. There are tons of Steam games that require a third party account (like anything from Ubisoft.) This isn't the grand betrayal that people have been making it out to be.
People are review bombing the game and doomsaying because of a change... that isn't really a change.
/edit - also relevant is that this is not a developer decision, it's a publisher decision. I doubt that Sony is going to backtrack on people needing a Sony account to play a Sony game.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 10:58 pm
by hepcat
Considering that there a few countries that you can’t create a PSN account from, and that the option to link to a PSN account had a big skip button next to it since release, I can somewhat understand the consternation.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 11:06 pm
by Blackhawk
No question - I can absolutely get the frustration. But at the end of the day, it was a known factor that people hoped wouldn't come back to bite them. It did, and they're blaming the developer.
I'd be frustrated, too, but blame where blame is due.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:25 am
by hepcat
I think before enforcing this though, they should have worked out how to let people who bought the game but live in areas that don't allow PSN accounts play. On that I believe we can at least partially blame the developers.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 10:18 am
by waitingtoconnect
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri May 03, 2024 9:47 pm
I stopped playing after a couple of English guys that got stuck with me in a quick match game called me “Bullocks Boy” and “Mayor of Wankerton” because I sucked.
You should have added us as friends in game so we could have done that.
I feel ripped off.
Seriously though far better with friends… join us….
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 1:36 pm
by Blackhawk
hepcat wrote: ↑Sat May 04, 2024 9:25 am
I think before enforcing this though, they should have worked out how to let people who bought the game but live in areas that don't allow PSN accounts play. On that I believe we can at least partially blame the developers.
That I agree with. There are some problems and mistakes in play here, no doubt.
I just disagree with the over-the-top response.
And for what it's worth, this is from the company, after saying that people should change the review scores to negative:
“I want people to make their displeasure known in a place where it might actually make a difference, Steam reviews and refund requests will do that, angry posting in the Discord won’t. I’m not happy about this decision either.”
In other words, this was all Sony. Not the developers, not the game, Sony.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 8:25 pm
by hepcat
Arrowhead said yes at some point to this, Sony didn’t hide what was going to happen. so yeah….I think it’s fair to lay some blame on them.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sat May 04, 2024 9:38 pm
by Blackhawk
I was under the impression, based on what I've read (I've not played the game), that the developers always said that it was mandatory, written into the publishing contract from the beginning, and listed on the Steam page (which I went and confirmed - it was listed there from the beginning.) They just gave a temporary workaround ("skip") for a while. I've also gotten the impression that it was Sony who was responsible for how and when the workaround was removed, choosing not to make it clear in advance, or give them time to solve issues (like regional access) before the switch was flipped.
If people bought it from a page which features this:
Then they are, ultimately, the ones who carry the bulk of the blame.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 7:00 pm
by Archinerd
I pre-orderd this game, and I'm not sure if it was posted then or not.
But I still think it's still crap.
I also chose to stop listening to some podcasts I really liked when they decided to go spotify exclusive. I don't have spotify, I don't want spotify, and I don't care if I can get it for free. Eventually the my favorite of those podcasts did become widely available again... I'll review bomb this game and maybe Sony will back off on this whole PSN thing... if not.
Honestly though, if it takes a PSN account to keep playing, I probably will sign up. I still don't have to like it.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 8:02 pm
by Archinerd
I'd say they have a problem though. It went from overwhelmingly positive to negative overnight.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Sun May 05, 2024 8:11 pm
by Blackhawk
That's the problem with review bombing: It's not a reflection of the quality of the game, It's just mob mentality stemming from some slight, real or imagined. Usually imagined.
And they only have a problem if they choose to. Steam will roll back reviews when that happens. The company just needs to ask.
Re: Helldivers - Now on Steam
Posted: Mon May 06, 2024 1:39 am
by naednek
All for nothing. Sony backtracked and won't require PSN
I thought I was calling in my Stalward and that backpack accessory 
I usally play lower levels to get the daily minor order.
