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stessier wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:20 pm I just finished the series and liked it. I didn't trust Netflix to let them finish the story. Should I start by reading the first book, or skip to the second? I've seen several people say they had trouble getting through the first one.
I had just read Michio Kaku's book, Quantum Supremacy, and that made this book more understandable as it does deal with quantum theory. I highly recommend going this route.
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stessier wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 2:20 pm I just finished the series and liked it. I didn't trust Netflix to let them finish the story. Should I start by reading the first book, or skip to the second? I've seen several people say they had trouble getting through the first one.
not only do they blow through the first book (in record time) in this first series, they get a good start on the second and include a portion of the third...
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i don't think the second book is going to endear you to this series. i'm also of the opinion that aside from a few interesting ideas, the story itself was not interesting, the characterization one-dimensional (if that) and the dialog horrific. yeah, was not a fan. so i figured this adaptation couldn't do worse...
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Jeff V wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:35 pm I just finished the first book and thought it was amazing. Is this a series or a movie? I might just get a temporary Netflix sub to see this.
A series, but since it is on netflix, better wait until they completed the whole series before start watching. They're known to cancel fantasy/sci-fi series after 1-2 seasons.
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Victoria Raverna wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 12:50 am
Jeff V wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:35 pm I just finished the first book and thought it was amazing. Is this a series or a movie? I might just get a temporary Netflix sub to see this.
A series, but since it is on netflix, better wait until they completed the whole series before start watching. They're known to cancel fantasy/sci-fi series after 1-2 seasons.
related to my post above: but if all one cares about is the first book (and i know a number of people that read the first one and not the rest of the series), then that's already been covered and completed in this first season.

if one wants the excruciatingly long adaptation, go with the Chinese TV series
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Just finished this last night and really enjoyed it. Didn't read the books and had no idea what it was about. Didn't have any problems following the story or the premise, though it did require full attention given some of the subtle elements or discussions that explained what was happening. I don't know if I'll read the books, but I definitely want to see more of this show.
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 10:12 am Just finished this last night and really enjoyed it. Didn't read the books and had no idea what it was about. Didn't have any problems following the story or the premise, though it did require full attention given some of the subtle elements or discussions that explained what was happening. I don't know if I'll read the books, but I definitely want to see more of this show.
We're two episodes from the end and enjoying it a lot. Smartly written, creative take on an old sf trope. It took me a while to draw the lines between the 1970s characters and their current selves, but I did sort it out. I'm often slow in that regard.
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I had given up on it after two episodes because a few folks seemed to say it wasn't worth it. But it sounds like I should give it a go after all.
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hepcat wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 10:47 am I had given up on it after two episodes because a few folks seemed to say it wasn't worth it. But it sounds like I should give it a go after all.
Mildly worth staying to the end, but often seems like a plot in search of a movie.
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One of the best hard sci-fi on TV right now.
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Victoria Raverna wrote: Tue May 07, 2024 12:50 am
Jeff V wrote: Sun May 05, 2024 10:35 pm I just finished the first book and thought it was amazing. Is this a series or a movie? I might just get a temporary Netflix sub to see this.
A series, but since it is on netflix, better wait until they completed the whole series before start watching. They're known to cancel fantasy/sci-fi series after 1-2 seasons.
Netflix added a line to the menu screen saying it's officially renewed for a second season.
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Rumpy wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 1:16 pm One of the best hard sci-fi on TV right now.
I'd say so, yeah. Plus it does have a rather spiritual/religious element to it as well (sorta) - which I thought made sense. Overall I thought it felt plausible, in terms of what might happen.
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...and just to make sure, no Wahlberg, right? Cause you got me when you lied and said he wasn't in Fallout.
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Jaymann wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 11:46 am
hepcat wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 10:47 am I had given up on it after two episodes because a few folks seemed to say it wasn't worth it. But it sounds like I should give it a go after all.
Mildly worth staying to the end, but often seems like a plot in search of a movie.
This was more or less my take. I maybe thought there was a little more payoff than you, Jaymann, but I was more in the “liked it” than the “loved it” camp. Still, looking forward to see what they do with Season 2. I’ll definitely give it a shot!
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hepcat wrote: Mon May 20, 2024 2:01 pm ...and just to make sure, no Wahlberg, right? Cause you got me when you lied and said he wasn't in Fallout.
No Wahlberg. It does have a fairly sizable number of actors from Game of Thrones, however. Fun to see them in different roles.

I'll put it this way. If you like hard sci-fi in general, including something imaginative, you'll likely be in for a good time. It's something that manages to feel fresh.
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i even watched it on my own, which is hard to accomplish. several of the latter episodes were pretty ok. they depicted the horror of [end of episode 5] in a way that i felt the book completely lacked, and [one of the main characters] actually reacted appropriately towards. (the book actually seemed
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sociopathic with absolutely no regard for the mass murder of everyone on board
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hitbyambulance wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 2:18 pm i even watched it on my own, which is hard to accomplish. several of the latter episodes were pretty ok. they depicted the horror of [end of episode 5] in a way that i felt the book completely lacked, and [one of the main characters] actually reacted appropriately towards. (the book actually seemed
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sociopathic with absolutely no regard for the mass murder of everyone on board
, if i remember correctly)
That scene left me scratching my head. I just didn’t get it. How on earth was that the best possible way for them to address that situation? Seemed absurd, and, honestly, the series kind of lost me there.
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Kurth wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 7:14 pm That scene left me scratching my head. I just didn’t get it. How on earth was that the best possible way for them to address that situation? Seemed absurd, and, honestly, the series kind of lost me there.
I had the same initial reaction, but then thought about it some more.
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Remember, these people are essentially like religious zealots at this point - helping the enemy. They wanted the data/intelligence to further the defense effort, but recognized sending anyone in to try and retrieve it would put those people in danger - and nothing was stopping them from destroying the information once they realized they were being boarded on the ship. The nano-wires are unconventional and require zero loss of life on the part of the planetary defense crew. The likelihood that all of the "cultists" would die was just a bonus. The only part that had me questioning things was that they were sure the wires wouldn't slice through the intelligence (books, hard drives) that they were looking to find, rendering them useless.

I guess when you think about what they were trying to do filtered through a zero risk to them mentality, it makes sense.

It was one hell of a scene, regardless.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 7:20 pm
Kurth wrote: Tue May 21, 2024 7:14 pm That scene left me scratching my head. I just didn’t get it. How on earth was that the best possible way for them to address that situation? Seemed absurd, and, honestly, the series kind of lost me there.
I had the same initial reaction, but then thought about it some more.
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Remember, these people are essentially like religious zealots at this point - helping the enemy. They wanted the data/intelligence to further the defense effort, but recognized sending anyone in to try and retrieve it would put those people in danger - and nothing was stopping them from destroying the information once they realized they were being boarded on the ship. The nano-wires are unconventional and require zero loss of life on the part of the planetary defense crew. The likelihood that all of the "cultists" would die was just a bonus. The only part that had me questioning things was that they were sure the wires wouldn't slice through the intelligence (books, hard drives) that they were looking to find, rendering them useless.

I guess when you think about what they were trying to do filtered through a zero risk to them mentality, it makes sense.

It was one hell of a scene, regardless.
Setting aside the loss of innocent lives, the part that had you questioning things was the same part that had me questioning things. There was no way they could hope that the goal of the operation would actually survive the operation! Seemed like a huge plot hole to me. Maybe it was addressed in the books (which I haven’t read).
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Kurth wrote: Wed May 22, 2024 2:29 am There was no way they could hope that the goal of the operation would actually survive the operation! Seemed like a huge plot hole to me. Maybe it was addressed in the books (which I haven’t read).
the answer to your speculative question is 'not at all'
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