Sounds to me like your brain is working just fine.
There's one ideology which is looking for the benefit of the masses and another which is focused on selfishness.
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Sounds to me like your brain is working just fine.
And the Abraham Lincoln ideology that benefiting the masses is focusing on selfishness.
“Mr. Lincoln once remarked to a fellow-passenger on an old-time mud-catch that all men were prompted by selfishness in doing good. His fellow-passenger was antagonizing this position when they were passing over a corduroy bridge that spanned a slough. As they crossed this bridge they espied an old razorbacked sow on the bank making a terrible noise because her pigs had got into the slough and were in danger of drowning. As the old coach began to climb the hill, Mr. Lincoln called out, “Driver, can’t you stop just a moment?” Then Mr. Lincoln jumped out, ran back and lifted the little pigs out of the mud and water and placed them on the bank. When he returned, his companion remarked: “Now Abe, where does selfishness come in on this little episode?” “Why bless your soul, Ed, that was the very essence of selfishness. I should have had no peace of mind all day had I gone on and left that suffering old sow worrying over those pigs. I did it to get peace of mind, don’t you see?”
I think it's more of a reactionary resistance to *anything* the government suggests that we do.Punisher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm I just think it's the polite thing to do. Japan has been doung it since way begore Covid. Which gote thinkning. I winder if the mask issue in the US is really deeply rooted in the fact that the majority of us are actually just not intetested in being polite.
I wonder if those type of people took "question everything " as a personal challenge.Holman wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 9:12 amI think it's more of a reactionary resistance to *anything* the government suggests that we do.Punisher wrote: ↑Wed Sep 20, 2023 10:08 pm I just think it's the polite thing to do. Japan has been doung it since way begore Covid. Which gote thinkning. I winder if the mask issue in the US is really deeply rooted in the fact that the majority of us are actually just not intetested in being polite.
My dad had a friend in the 1970s who always cut the seatbelts out of a new car.
Also an example of someone that doesn't give a shit about how they affect other people.
My friend's dad cut the buckle off the strap and inserted it into the clip so he wouldn't even have to hear the dinging for a few seconds when he started the car (back when they would only ding for a few seconds and then stop altogether).
But not the kind of selfishness at odds with mutually beneficial upside. I’d claim they were different beasts entirely.LordMortis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 7:36 amAnd the Abraham Lincoln ideology that benefiting the masses is focusing on selfishness.
Is it over?These findings are from the latest quarterly update of Gallup’s COVID-19 tracking poll, based on interviews with over 5,000 U.S. adults and conducted Aug. 29-Sept. 5 via Gallup's probability-based web panel.
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Thirty percent of Americans now say the pandemic is getting worse. This is up sharply from 5% in Gallup’s prior measure in late May/early June, and 8% in February, and is the highest rate of pessimism about the pandemic measured in over a year, since July 2022. Pessimism still isn’t close to the overwhelmingly negative outlook seen in 2020, however, when as many as 73% said the pandemic was worsening.
As has been the case consistently since the start of 2022, the largest share of adults, currently 41%, believe the coronavirus situation is improving, while a steady 30% say it’s staying the same.
(it's not over)While fewer Americans today than last quarter believe the pandemic is over, the majority (53%) still say it is. This is down from 64% in May/June but remains slightly higher than the 49% recorded in February. All of these readings are higher than Gallup found in 2021 or 2022.
Masking:All party groups are more likely now than in May/June to say the coronavirus situation is getting worse, but Democrats have grown particularly negative about the trajectory. The percentage of Democrats who believe the situation is worsening has jumped 38 percentage points this quarter, from 6% in May/June to 44% in September. This contrasts with a 17-point increase among independents, to 22%, and a 13-point increase among Republicans, to 16%.
Reasoning for masking is all over the place.Slightly more than half of U.S. adults, 55%, report they never wear a mask outside the home, while 45% do so to some extent. Of the latter, just 6% say they always or very often wear one, and another 11% sometimes do, while 28% say it’s a rare occurrence.
This is a complete reversal from early on in the pandemic, in July 2020, before vaccines were developed, when the slight majority said they always wore a mask (53%) and another 31% wore them very often. Twelve percent wore them sometimes and 3% rarely, with less than 1% saying they never wore one.
While few adults, regardless of party, say they always wear a mask today, the percentage wearing one at least sometimes is much higher among Democrats (25%) than among independents (15%) or Republicans (6%).
Alabama lawmakers are taking the lead on an effort to defund security protection for Dr. Anthony Fauci, the retired director the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases who became a household name during the COVID pandemic.
U.S. Rep. Dale Strong, a Republican from the Huntsville area, introduced a bill Thursday in Congress that would eliminate federal money being used for Fauci’s security detail. The bill so far has three co-sponsors – two of which are among Strong’s Alabama colleagues in the House: Mike Rogers and Barry Moore.
Fauci’s received his security detail after death threats were made against him and his family with the onset of the COVID pandemic in March 2020.
I don't wear a mask when I'm outdoors, but I always wear a mask outside the home when I'm indoors. Where does that put me? And what if I went to my parents' for dinner and we all tested negative ahead of time so I didn't wear a mask then (hypothetical - haven't been to my parents' in ages for myriad reasons, but we've had them over in a scenario where all tested negative so we went unmasked).Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:42 pm Masking:
Slightly more than half of U.S. adults, 55%, report they never wear a mask outside the home, while 45% do so to some extent. Of the latter, just 6% say they always or very often wear one, and another 11% sometimes do, while 28% say it’s a rare occurrence.
As for me? Yes I believe they are lying. Why?
COVID positive is just an attribute. It is data. No one at the CDC is trying to establish a link between a broken leg and COVID. Instead, this is similar talk to dying with COVID vs. from COVID that was ginned up by the ghouls on the right. These ideas are largely driven by intentional misinformation narratives. Which unfortunately have wormed there way into the general conversation like this. It's intended to undermine trust in public health sources and build a victim culture for political power.I know for a fact that hospitals in my area were doing similar things during the height of covid.
Come in for one thing, trst positive with covid even eith no symptoms, get listed as a Covid pt.
I can understand the need to identify covid so you can keep those pts away from other non covid pts.
I dont think its right to mark them as being in the hospital as a covid pt as their primary reason for being there.
+1.LordMortis wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:41 am It's a valid distinction. However, liars do figure and my trust for the right with figures is complete zero. I mean, election tampering. <stop> <end> <mic drop>
6% + 11% + 28% = 45%ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:16 amI don't wear a mask when I'm outdoors, but I always wear a mask outside the home when I'm indoors. Where does that put me? And what if I went to my parents' for dinner and we all tested negative ahead of time so I didn't wear a mask then (hypothetical - haven't been to my parents' in ages for myriad reasons, but we've had them over in a scenario where all tested negative so we went unmasked).Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 21, 2023 8:42 pm Masking:
Slightly more than half of U.S. adults, 55%, report they never wear a mask outside the home, while 45% do so to some extent. Of the latter, just 6% say they always or very often wear one, and another 11% sometimes do, while 28% say it’s a rare occurrence.
Also, is that 6% of the 45% always masking, or 6% of the total? It reads like the former.
If the person wasn't pregnant then would they have had those symptoms?Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:59 am Ah, this old chestnut.
I know it won't come as a surprise to some of you, but the same argument has been used for decades with pregnant women. How? She didn't die because she was pregnant - she died because her blood pressure was so high or her kidneys failed.
Of course her blood pressure was so high and her kidneys failed because of the stress associated with being pregnant, but they want to make sure no one is trying to associate being pregnant with having a potentially life-threatening scenario develop for the mother - for reasons you can imagine.
Careful, that's a slippery slope.Punisher wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 2:15 pmIf the person wasn't pregnant then would they have had those symptoms?Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:59 am Ah, this old chestnut.
I know it won't come as a surprise to some of you, but the same argument has been used for decades with pregnant women. How? She didn't die because she was pregnant - she died because her blood pressure was so high or her kidneys failed.
Of course her blood pressure was so high and her kidneys failed because of the stress associated with being pregnant, but they want to make sure no one is trying to associate being pregnant with having a potentially life-threatening scenario develop for the mother - for reasons you can imagine.
I guess that would be the rhing with me. If pregnancy caused those symptoms why wouldn't be a significant factor. Yes she died because of kidney failure but did pregnancy cause the problem in the first place.
I could be wrong, but I dont think anyone actually died from covid. Covid cause other things like respiratory arrest which caused death but it could be arguied that mo covid meant no respiratory arrest.
List of Democrats that voted in favor:"This is a massive victory for personal freedom in this country," Vance said in a post-vote statement. "We saw countless abuses of authority throughout the COVID pandemic, and the American people were justifiably enraged by unscientific mask mandates.
"Today, the United States Senate took an emphatic step toward common sense and individual liberty. I'm proud of what we've accomplished here and look forward to continuing the fight."
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Vance said prior to the vote on the Senate floor that while COVID will unfortunately be with Americans for likely the rest of their lives, its presence should not constitute "public health panic" for a respiratory virus which is mostly unable to be stopped or controlled on a widespread level.
He alluded to altercations on flights between passengers and flight attendants during the height of the pandemic due to mask enforcement. Vance also mentioned the developmental delays to schoolchildren and division that resulted among American families.
"If people want to wear masks, of course they should be able to," he said. "But if people don't want to wear masks on airplanes, on transit, they should have that option as well, and that's all that my amendment does.
"It is narrowly scoped. It applies for the next 11 months and applies to transportation cases. And I think it is reasonable to not ask the American people to reenter the era of mask mandates."
Baldwin (D-WI)
Bennet (D-CO)
Brown (D-OH)
Kaine (D-VA)
Kelly (D-AZ)
Klobuchar (D-MN)
Manchin (D-WV)
Rosen (D-NV)
Shaheen (D-NH)
Tester (D-MT)
From the click through:he former Delta airlines pilot who is charged with threatening to shoot a flight captain previously made headlines for challenging the Air Force’s coronavirus vaccine mandate to the U.S. Supreme Court.
The pilot, Jonathan Dunn, previously served as a lieutenant colonel in the Air Force Reserve and refused to get the coronavirus vaccine, citing religious grounds, CBS News reported, which cited several sources familiar with the matter.
An airline pilot is accused of pulling a gun in the cockpit of a commercial flight and threatening to shoot the captain if he diverted the plane to help a passenger suffering a medical emergency, according to federal prosecutors
Jonathan J. Dunn was indicted on Oct. 18 by a Utah grand jury for the incident, which happened in August 2022.
The name of the airline and details of the flight were not publicly released.
Dunn was charged with interference with a flight crew, which is punishable by up to 20 years in prison.
Maybe, but at least for the passenger having the medical emergency, yeah. The rest would kind of depend on the regulations regarding medical emergency landings, IMHO (tho the fact that he has been indicted says a LOT about that, even if not spelled out in the articles).
Looking forward to a review on the United States.A former minister for health in England wrote to me that “The COVID-19 inquiry will make us the laughing stock in the eyes of the world.” But it is worse than that. The level of criminal incompetence exposed by recent witnesses to the UK COVID-19 Inquiry, chaired by Baroness Heather Hallett, has proven that many, if not most, of over 230 000 deaths were preventable. Amid the claims of extreme misogyny, profanity, and chaos that litter the evidence is a story of complete government breakdown.