BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Game over
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
remove grund
round and round it goes...where will newcastle's vote go!?!
round and round it goes...where will newcastle's vote go!?!
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Lassr, you have Archinerd voting for himself.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Yeah, I don't get two votes and if I did I wouldn't waste one on myself. That should be Stessier instead of me.Holman wrote:Lassr, you have Archinerd voting for himself.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Where are threat lists?
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I think I would like to vote for scoop and I can't wait to see his posts in the evil forum, but since I just realized that he hooked me up with some free stuff a few months back, I'll hold off, so I am sticking with my Stessier vote, especially now that it looks like his voting chip is glitching out...
I may be persuaded to switch my vote, but my gut says no for now.
I may be persuaded to switch my vote, but my gut says no for now.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Players ------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- tru1cy
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- Archinerd
12 Newcastle-----
13 Stessier-------- Archinerd
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( tru1cy---------- 1 )--- Chaoraven --
( Stessier-------- 3 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West ---
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( Archinerd----- 2 )--- tru1cy --- stessier
( Grundbegriff-- 4 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- tru1cy
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- Archinerd
12 Newcastle-----
13 Stessier-------- Archinerd
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( tru1cy---------- 1 )--- Chaoraven --
( Stessier-------- 3 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West ---
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( Archinerd----- 2 )--- tru1cy --- stessier
( Grundbegriff-- 4 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Black Lives Matter
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Sorry Stessier
kind of feel like a jerk by doing this, since well...hadn't played in a while...but can't shake the feeling youre a toaster.
kind of feel like a jerk by doing this, since well...hadn't played in a while...but can't shake the feeling youre a toaster.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Neck and neck as
stessier
takes the lead
stessier
takes the lead
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"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Well geez louise this back and forth just ain't ending!
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His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Players ------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- Archinerd
12 Newcastle----- stessier
13 Stessier-------- Archinerd
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Newcastle --- Chaosraven
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( Archinerd----- 2 )--- tru1cy --- stessier
( Grundbegriff-- 4 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi ---
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- Archinerd
12 Newcastle----- stessier
13 Stessier-------- Archinerd
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Newcastle --- Chaosraven
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( Archinerd----- 2 )--- tru1cy --- stessier
( Grundbegriff-- 4 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi ---
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Black Lives Matter
Black Lives Matter
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Just checking in, I have no new insights or suspicions.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Grundbegriff
Slowest reader evar.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I came back to read on the weekend and the forum was gone!
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Grundbegriff wrote:I came back to read on the weekend and the forum was gone!
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
2050
As the votes flew back and forth, everyone was startled when the emergency lighting went out. Small flashlights pierced the deep darkness as they worked to get emergency lighting back up. But it was no use. It had fallen victim to the virus. Portable torches were brought in to provide temporary lighting to the conference room.
The day two decision was turning out to be much more difficult than the first day.
As the votes flew back and forth, everyone was startled when the emergency lighting went out. Small flashlights pierced the deep darkness as they worked to get emergency lighting back up. But it was no use. It had fallen victim to the virus. Portable torches were brought in to provide temporary lighting to the conference room.
The day two decision was turning out to be much more difficult than the first day.
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Black Lives Matter
Black Lives Matter
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I'm fine with sticking with Grund for now, at least pending whatever mind blowing revelations he is planning on dropping on us.
After that, Scoop's also giving me sort of a weird vibe, so I could be persuaded to vote for him. He might even be into that, it seems like.
I'm not opposed to lynching stessier or tru1cy, but I'm not getting a wolfy vibe from either, so neither would be my first choice. Which, of course, means that they're both wolves.
After that, Scoop's also giving me sort of a weird vibe, so I could be persuaded to vote for him. He might even be into that, it seems like.
I'm not opposed to lynching stessier or tru1cy, but I'm not getting a wolfy vibe from either, so neither would be my first choice. Which, of course, means that they're both wolves.
Black Lives Matter.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Grundbegriff
want to see how this plays out
want to see how this plays out
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Players ------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- grundbegriff
12 Newcastle----- stessier
13 Stessier-------- grundbegriff
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Newcastle --- Chaosraven
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( )--- ---
( Grundbegriff-- 6 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi --- stessier --- tru1cy
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
1 Vorret---------- Scoop
2 El Guapo------- grundbegriff
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- grundbegriff
12 Newcastle----- stessier
13 Stessier-------- grundbegriff
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Newcastle --- Chaosraven
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 2 )--- Holman --- Vorret
( )--- ---
( Grundbegriff-- 6 )--- El Guapo --- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi --- stessier --- tru1cy
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Black Lives Matter
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
WD Scoop
Stessier
make it fair.
Stessier
make it fair.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
withdraw Grundbegriff
I'd like to (hopefully) hear more from Grund before he possibly walks the space plank.
I'd like to (hopefully) hear more from Grund before he possibly walks the space plank.
Black Lives Matter.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Grund's already claimed Space Pope so it will be interesting to see if he abdicates that throne.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
This makes things easy for us!Lassr wrote:2050
As the votes flew back and forth, everyone was startled when the emergency lighting went out. Small flashlights pierced the deep darkness as they worked to get emergency lighting back up. But it was no use. It had fallen victim to the virus. Portable torches were brought in to provide temporary lighting to the conference room.
The day two decision was turning out to be much more difficult than the first day.
All we need to do now is wait until people have sex and look for the glow!
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
remove stessier
accuse grundmuffin (no idea why saying his name this way amuses me, but it does....
accuse grundbegriff (to be clear)
while i think stessier is a toaster...at least he's playing....something that grund is not doing
N-1 WARNING
accuse grundmuffin (no idea why saying his name this way amuses me, but it does....
accuse grundbegriff (to be clear)
while i think stessier is a toaster...at least he's playing....something that grund is not doing
N-1 WARNING
Bayraktar!!!!
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Sooo...do you think that Grund is more likely to be a toaster than stessier?Newcastle wrote: remove stessier
accuse grundmuffin (no idea why saying his name this way amuses me, but it does....
accuse grundbegriff (to be clear)
while i think stessier is a toaster...at least he's playing....something that grund is not doing
N-1 WARNING
Black Lives Matter.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Probably not its a lower probability in my eyes. But it would seem if Grund was good whatever role he would play whether special or normal, he'd make some further attempt to help the situation. He hasn't. He's dropped in and said hi, but that's about it.El Guapo wrote:Sooo...do you think that Grund is more likely to be a toaster than stessier?Newcastle wrote: remove stessier
accuse grundmuffin (no idea why saying his name this way amuses me, but it does....
accuse grundbegriff (to be clear)
while i think stessier is a toaster...at least he's playing....something that grund is not doing
N-1 WARNING
Bayraktar!!!!
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Players ------- Voted For:
1 Vorret---------- stessier
2 El Guapo-------
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- grundbegriff
12 Newcastle----- grundbegriff
13 Stessier-------- grundbegriff
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Chaosraven --- vorret
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 1 )--- Holman ---
( )--- ---
( Grundbegriff-- 6 )--- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi --- stessier --- tru1cy --- Newcastle
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
1 Vorret---------- stessier
2 El Guapo-------
3 Remus West-- stessier
4 Punisher------ stessier
5 Unagi---------- grundbegriff
6 Archinerd----- grundbegriff
7 Holman-------- Scoop
8 Chaosraven--- stessier
9 Scoop---------- grundbegriff
10 Grundbegriff-- stessier
11 tru1cy---------- grundbegriff
12 Newcastle----- grundbegriff
13 Stessier-------- grundbegriff
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.
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Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- --
( Stessier-------- 5 )--- Punisher --- Grundbegriff --- Remus West --- Chaosraven --- vorret
( )--- ---
( Scoop---------- 1 )--- Holman ---
( )--- ---
( Grundbegriff-- 6 )--- Scoop --- Archinerd --- Unagi --- stessier --- tru1cy --- Newcastle
Deaths
Moliere-------- Injected
BB2112--------- Saw the light
Majority = 7
Deadline is: May 10th: 6 PM Central
The only reason people get lost in thought is because it's unfamiliar territory.
Black Lives Matter
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I don't think Grund is evil but eh, he's silent so in itself it's not a *terrible* vote. I still prefer my vote on Stessier though.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I don't know If he is Evil or not, but he's definitely not playing and he's just going to be a distraction going forward. I'm fine risking a miss if it clears up things for tomorrow.
I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
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I'm torn because while I tend to agree with this logic it can easily be used by a bad guy to justify this vote. Also, he has already become a distraction so that part seems to be simply regurgitating the "party line" that folks always say regarding voting for silents.stessier wrote:I don't know If he is Evil or not, but he's definitely not playing and he's just going to be a distraction going forward. I'm fine risking a miss if it clears up things for tomorrow.
Anyway, I'm not going to kill him until he gets a final say.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I thought Grund's M.O. was to say little until after a couple of nights and then come in with pretty careful analysis. I think that (if that's what's coming) would be worth waiting for.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Could be. Could also be a lot of misdirection if he is a bad guy so waiting on that is usually a lot less than helpful.Holman wrote:I thought Grund's M.O. was to say little until after a couple of nights and then come in with pretty careful analysis. I think that (if that's what's coming) would be worth waiting for.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
What am I - chopped liver?Holman wrote:I thought Grund's M.O. was to say little until after a couple of nights and then come in with pretty careful analysis. I think that (if that's what's coming) would be worth waiting for.
I require a reminder as to why raining arcane destruction is not an appropriate response to all of life's indignities. - Vaarsuvius
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Give up the goods! What's your read?stessier wrote:What am I - chopped liver?Holman wrote:I thought Grund's M.O. was to say little until after a couple of nights and then come in with pretty careful analysis. I think that (if that's what's coming) would be worth waiting for.
Much prefer my Nazis Nuremberged.
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Nope. You're faulty circuit boards.stessier wrote:What am I - chopped liver?Holman wrote:I thought Grund's M.O. was to say little until after a couple of nights and then come in with pretty careful analysis. I think that (if that's what's coming) would be worth waiting for.
“As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.” - H.L. Mencken
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I'm a meat popsicle.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Unexpectedly busy week. I'd be able to catch up tonight, if you'd like my analysis.
Withdraw a couple of votes, and I'll do that.
Otherwise, just know that I'm an unpowered midshipman.
Withdraw a couple of votes, and I'll do that.
Otherwise, just know that I'm an unpowered midshipman.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
I'm not sure why the number of votes matters...the deadline is in 14 hours.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
It doesn't matter. He has made his claim and asking us to wait until closer to the deadline just snacks of evil.
We either off him this morning or we move on to another target. Waiting for an unpowered Grundy gains trouble at the deadline.
My vote stays on Grund. I'm sure he has a cozy resurrection chamber waiting.
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We either off him this morning or we move on to another target. Waiting for an unpowered Grundy gains trouble at the deadline.
My vote stays on Grund. I'm sure he has a cozy resurrection chamber waiting.
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Re: BSG XI-Amduatey Virus-Day 2
Unless you are Special Grund (which you claim you are not), how much analysis can you really have at this point?