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One Night Ultimate Werewolf - Game over
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.
btw, I'm Insomniac.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Well? Share some info with us...Archinerd wrote:Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
I thought the insomniac just *knew* his role.
Where all of us could have been jumbled.
Where all of us could have been jumbled.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Interesting now that I have thought on it for a bit.Holman wrote:OK, this game won't take long. I can't think of a reason to wait on this:
I have had back-to-back dumb luck in recent sessions. Last time I shot the Alien on Day One. This time I am the Seer, and I scanned Vorret because of the running joke that we should lynch Vorret.
Well guess what? Vorret is a werewolf.
This is a bad idea. We need to hear from the Robber and Troublemaker - either of whom could have altered the role card after your scan.String him up! I've already voted.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
So, steps 1, 2, 3 are the various players being told their 'original' role and who their partners are (or were).stessier wrote:Night Activities
- Roles are randomly assigned leaving three roles unassigned (Grave A, B and C)
- After all roles are received, orders are sent into the Moderator and resolved in the following order:
- Werewolves are told who their partner is (if any)
- Minion is told who the Werewolves are (if any)
- Masons are told who their partner is (if any)
- Seer has a Vision
- Robber may choose to swap Roles with the Target.
- Troublemaker may choose to switch the cards of two other players.
- Drunk must choose a Grave to swap Roles with.
- Insomniac verifies what Role they have.
Assuming Holman is (or at least was) the seer here...
Step 4. The seer. We assume at this point the Seer scans a living player (Vorret, in this case) and is told Vorret is a wolf. If Holman REALLY is the Seer, then Vorret REALLY is or was a werewolf in Steps 1,2,3.
Step 5. The Robber. If he switched places with the Seer, the Seer doesn't know it, and the Robber should tell The Seer and all of us about this... if he Switched with the wolf - he would just let the wolf (Vorret in this story) get lynched and keep quiet.
Step 6. The Troublemaker. This guy could have switched the cards of Vorret and Holman - and since he is on Team Good - he should announce this (or any other Switch) so that we can act on 'the real wolf'
Step 7. The Drunk. He changed roles with one of the Graves, and has no clue what role that is. No help.
Step 8. The Insomniac is told in the morning "You are still the Insomniac" or "You are now a ______ " . Which may be relevant.
Or Holman came out with a bold lie (as the Tanner or a wolf hoping to be seen as the Tanner), but Holman isn't playing this like maybe he is a liar, and Moliere pretty much is seemingly playing it that way.
I agree with Remus in that the Robber and Troublemaker are next to step up with anything they feel can help here.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Uh... is there some kind of special rulez where you have to mention your role twice.Archinerd wrote:Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.
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Yeah, whats the deal with this?Holman wrote:Vorret wrote:It's so bright in here.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
It's ... day ?Scoop20906 wrote:Yeah, whats the deal with this?Holman wrote:Vorret wrote:It's so bright in here.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
hehRemus West wrote:Werewolves are told who their partner is (if any) - they will probably not tell us
Minion is told who the Werewolves are (if any) - he will probably not tell us
Masons are told who their partner is (if any) - they who are not appearing in this game
Seer has a Vision - should tell us
Robber may choose to swap Roles with the Target. - should tell us who he swapped with as that person is not a wolf.
Troublemaker may choose to switch the cards of two other players. - should have done so and should tell us who he swapped so they can tell us what the other person now is.
Drunk must choose a Grave to swap Roles with.
Insomniac verifies what Role they have. - should verify to us what he now is.
sorry... you basically already said everything I said above ages ago.
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I'm the drunk, or at least I was at a the beginning of the night. I swapped with grave number two and have no idea who I am now. Sorry, very little help.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Grave number 2?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
So one guy doesn't vote and we have 4-4, or we threeway the vote 3-3-3Moliere wrote:With 9 players a tie vote is unlikely. You See too much.Holman wrote:We win if we kill a Wolf. If the Tanner also dies, we still win--but the secret vote makes this difficult because the only way to get two deaths is to engineer a tie. It's going to be hard to make a secret ballot turn out accurately. (My understanding is that if we kill the Tanner but fail to kill a Wolf, *only* the Tanner wins.)
Not the Seer, btw
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
He's obviously drunk can't believe a word out of his mouth
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
There are more roles than players. Those not allocated to players are in "graves," but some roles can swap with them.Scoop20906 wrote:Grave number 2?
(Remember that this is a card game. The grave roles are cards not assigned to players.)
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf
At 11:00AM
At 11:22AM
Holman wrote:I think I'm still trying to get my head around this.
The whole game is one lynch vote, right? There is no wolf kill, and there are no deaths other than (a) the victim (or victims if tied) of the lynch and possibly (b) the hunter's chosen target if he is lynched. Is that correct?
At 11:22AM
At 1:59PMMoliere wrote:Not it!bb2112 wrote:Camp RosterIn Captain Obvious fashion I am going to assume if you checked in you are not the seer.
- bb2112 - Checked in - Not Seer
- Vorret - Checked in - Not Seer
- Holman
- Unagi - Checked in - Not Seer
- Remus West - Checked in - Not Seer
- Archinerd - Checked in - Not Seer
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At 2:07PMHolman wrote:OK, this game won't take long. I can't think of a reason to wait on this:
I have had back-to-back dumb luck in recent sessions. Last time I shot the Alien on Day One. This time I am the Seer, and I scanned Vorret because of the running joke that we should lynch Vorret.
Well guess what? Vorret is a werewolf.
String him up! I've already voted.
Moliere wrote:Dumb luck for me since you're actually a wolf and I scanned you last night.Holman wrote:OK, this game won't take long. I can't think of a reason to wait on this:
I have had back-to-back dumb luck in recent sessions. Last time I shot the Alien on Day One. This time I am the Seer, and I scanned Vorret because of the running joke that we should lynch Vorret.
Well guess what? Vorret is a werewolf.
String him up! I've already voted.
Holman
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
BB if now our official timekeeper
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
but he's drunk!
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Hmmm... Seems pretty obvious Moliere is lying. He had a chance to come forward as the seer and chose not to.
I agree with RW and Unagi, we have some more people that need to step forward and tell us their roles and what actions (particularly card swaps) they have taken.
I agree with RW and Unagi, we have some more people that need to step forward and tell us their roles and what actions (particularly card swaps) they have taken.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
I have a gut feeling Moliere is lying as well
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
he's the Tanner or a wolf that wants to look like the Tanner, it seems.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Well if he is, he can always come right out and say it.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
That's no reason to cry. One cries because one is sad. For example, I cry because others are stupid, and that makes me sad.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
While you could be right, it's also pretty in your face and hence avoidable and makes me think of the second layer, if you follow.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
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If Moliere is lying then his isn't the only one.
I'm just not sure why do many people are lying right now.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Is this going to be a Role Call?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Nope. Sorry, I'm just having weird issues with double posts lately. Happened in the last game too.Scoop20906 wrote:Uh... is there some kind of special rulez where you have to mention your role twice.Archinerd wrote:Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.
Another possibility is he is the Hunter. It's possible he's using himself as bait to somehow reveal a wolf then take one down with him when he goes.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
Tanner is probably a safer bet though.
Trouble maker needs to speak up for sure. Robber would be nice but he may not have any real incentive to do so.Remus West wrote:This is a bad idea. We need to hear from the Robber and Troublemaker - either of whom could have altered the role card after your scan.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Right. But I think he stepped into that stance weirdly as well.Unagi wrote:While you could be right, it's also pretty in your face and hence avoidable and makes me think of the second layer, if you follow.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
1) Moliere says he's not the seer,
2) I claim seer and accuse Vorret of lycanthropy,
3) Moliere counter-claims seer and conveniently accuses me,
4) I suggest that Moliere could be the second wolf protecting Vorret,
5) Moliere says that we should kill both Vorret and him.
What role fits this pattern? Not the Minion since the Minion loses if wolf Vorret dies.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
I guess you and I are just approaching the iocane argument from different angles really, I wont belabor it.
To answer your question - I don't know what is going on really with his counter claim at this point at all. He's not even really expanded on it.
maybe he's roleplaying the troublemaker.
To answer your question - I don't know what is going on really with his counter claim at this point at all. He's not even really expanded on it.
maybe he's roleplaying the troublemaker.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
As the Troublemaker why would I make the switches public? You will find out soon enough.Archinerd wrote:Nope. Sorry, I'm just having weird issues with double posts lately. Happened in the last game too.Scoop20906 wrote:Uh... is there some kind of special rulez where you have to mention your role twice.Archinerd wrote:Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.Another possibility is he is the Hunter. It's possible he's using himself as bait to somehow reveal a wolf then take one down with him when he goes.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
Tanner is probably a safer bet though.
Trouble maker needs to speak up for sure. Robber would be nice but he may not have any real incentive to do so.Remus West wrote:This is a bad idea. We need to hear from the Robber and Troublemaker - either of whom could have altered the role card after your scan.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Does anyone want to claim villager?
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Wait... you claimed seer and now troublemaker?Moliere wrote:As the Troublemaker why would I make the switches public? You will find out soon enough.Archinerd wrote:Nope. Sorry, I'm just having weird issues with double posts lately. Happened in the last game too.Scoop20906 wrote:Uh... is there some kind of special rulez where you have to mention your role twice.Archinerd wrote:Any other "seers" want to come forward with their scan to make this a 3-way?
btw, I'm Insomniac.Another possibility is he is the Hunter. It's possible he's using himself as bait to somehow reveal a wolf then take one down with him when he goes.Holman wrote:That's why I think Moliere is the Tanner. He's trying to get killed by looking weird and suspicious.
Tanner is probably a safer bet though.
Trouble maker needs to speak up for sure. Robber would be nice but he may not have any real incentive to do so.Remus West wrote:This is a bad idea. We need to hear from the Robber and Troublemaker - either of whom could have altered the role card after your scan.
Isgrimnur wrote:
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
I'm starting to feel that if the Troublemaker doesn't speak up, I'm going to assume he's in a grave.
And I'm pretty sure that just exposes us to a Robber who may have taken the wolf role from Vorret.
Not sure what to make of Moliere.
And I'm pretty sure that just exposes us to a Robber who may have taken the wolf role from Vorret.
Not sure what to make of Moliere.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf
Here's where I'm at right now.
Camp Roster
Camp Roster
- bb2112 - Drunk?
- Vorret - "scanned" Werewolf
- Holman - Claims Seer
- Unagi - ?
- Remus West - Claims Villager (or am I misremembering? I need to look back in the thread.)
- Archinerd - Insomniac
- Chaosraven - ?
- Scoop20906 - ?
- Moliere - Claims Seer & Troublemaker -- Probably Tanner
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
No, we are 'garanteed' a seer (and 2 wolves). I checked that earlier. I assume stessier's comment that they 'will be in the game' means that they are not in the Graves.
I was given a Villager card at the start of the game.
Holman is uncontested and there is no reason in this game not to immediately contest someone that claims your role, I would think.
We should expect (if he isn't in a Grave) an honest report from the troublemaker, as he is on 'Team Good'.
The more I think about The Robber, we can't really trust what he says (as we should the Troublemaker).
I'm not remotely about to trust a Moliere Troublemaker claim at this point though. FWIW. I think that 'claim' was because I said what I said, and he's just actually being a maker of trouble.
I was given a Villager card at the start of the game.
Holman is uncontested and there is no reason in this game not to immediately contest someone that claims your role, I would think.
We should expect (if he isn't in a Grave) an honest report from the troublemaker, as he is on 'Team Good'.
The more I think about The Robber, we can't really trust what he says (as we should the Troublemaker).
I'm not remotely about to trust a Moliere Troublemaker claim at this point though. FWIW. I think that 'claim' was because I said what I said, and he's just actually being a maker of trouble.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Sorry, no. It means they were in the pile of potential roles only. Same with the wolves (as noted in the rules where the only way the Village can win in a no wolf situation is to lynch no one).Unagi wrote:No, we are 'garanteed' a seer (and 2 wolves). I checked that earlier. I assume stessier's comment that they 'will be in the game' means that they are not in the Graves.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
Unagi wrote:No, we are 'garanteed' a seer (and 2 wolves). I checked that earlier. I assume stessier's comment that they 'will be in the game' means that they are not in the Graves..
Stessier, can you confirm that the Seer is guaranteed to not start in a Grave?
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Nvm. Thanks.
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So it's possible there is only 1 wolf (or very unlikely, none) in the game too.
That means our town drunk (bb) may have turned into a wolf unknowingly as well. Not likely but the possibility does exist.
What makes the most sense to me right now is;
Holman is the Seer then and he scanned Vorret as a wolf, then Moliere might also be the Minion trying to draw fire or is a Tanner trying to get himself killed.
We kind of need some other special to come forward to shed some light on this, you can't all be sitting in Graves.
That means our town drunk (bb) may have turned into a wolf unknowingly as well. Not likely but the possibility does exist.
What makes the most sense to me right now is;
Holman is the Seer then and he scanned Vorret as a wolf, then Moliere might also be the Minion trying to draw fire or is a Tanner trying to get himself killed.
We kind of need some other special to come forward to shed some light on this, you can't all be sitting in Graves.
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So it's possible there is only 1 wolf (or very unlikely, none) in the game too.
That means our town drunk (bb) may have turned into a wolf unknowingly as well. Not likely but the possibility does exist.
What makes the most sense to me right now is;
Holman is the Seer then and he scanned Vorret as a wolf, then Moliere might also be the Minion trying to draw fire or is a Tanner trying to get himself killed.
We kind of need some other special to come forward to shed some light on this, you can't all be sitting in Graves.
That means our town drunk (bb) may have turned into a wolf unknowingly as well. Not likely but the possibility does exist.
What makes the most sense to me right now is;
Holman is the Seer then and he scanned Vorret as a wolf, then Moliere might also be the Minion trying to draw fire or is a Tanner trying to get himself killed.
We kind of need some other special to come forward to shed some light on this, you can't all be sitting in Graves.
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Re: One Night Ultimate Werewolf - It is Day
I did. Right away. Since Unagi has as well that means there are a lot of folks not sharing information.Scoop20906 wrote:Does anyone want to claim villager?
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