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Kraken wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:56 pm The Chinese would like to negotiate with a different administration
Wouldn't we all...
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gilraen wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:09 pm
malchior wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:41 pm What this race showed was that Trump had no upside or slightly negative impact on the turnout despite throwing one of his 'white power' rallies and focusing on this election.
Actually, if anything, Trump had a positive impact on the Democrat turnout in this election. Last time Kentucky voted for Bevin in 2015, the turnout was about 30%, and this time around, it was 42%. Democrats ultimately benefit from increased turnout, so if these trends are any indication of things to come in 2020, that's very bad news for the GOP.
Yesterday's election in Philadelphia was a standard-issue off-off-year municipal ballot: the mayor, city council, judges.

There were no controversial issues driving the race (the mayor cruised to re-election with 80%, for example), but it was record-breaking turnout nevertheless, far surpassing 2015 and 2011.

Democrats are fired up about voting.
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Holman wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:57 pm
gilraen wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:09 pm
malchior wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 2:41 pm What this race showed was that Trump had no upside or slightly negative impact on the turnout despite throwing one of his 'white power' rallies and focusing on this election.
Actually, if anything, Trump had a positive impact on the Democrat turnout in this election. Last time Kentucky voted for Bevin in 2015, the turnout was about 30%, and this time around, it was 42%. Democrats ultimately benefit from increased turnout, so if these trends are any indication of things to come in 2020, that's very bad news for the GOP.
Yesterday's election in Philadelphia was a standard-issue off-off-year municipal ballot: the mayor, city council, judges.

There were no controversial issues driving the race (the mayor cruised to re-election with 80%, for example), but it was record-breaking turnout nevertheless, far surpassing 2015 and 2011.

Democrats are fired up about voting.
Even our town election drew 33%, with no state or national races. Typical turnout in local elections is closer to 20%. 33% is still pretty dismal, but it's 50% higher than normal.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:01 pm
Kraken wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 4:56 pm The Chinese would like to negotiate with a different administration
Wouldn't we all...
Indeed.

All I'm saying is that Trump has one anti-recession arrow in his quiver, and he'll use it by next fall if he can give the markets an orgasm and flog growth for another quarter or two.
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Kraken wrote: Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:58 pm All I'm saying is that Trump has one anti-recession arrow in his quiver, and he'll use it by next fall if he can give the markets an orgasm and flog growth for another quarter or two.
He has three. Using his weight to foster Quantitative Easing and interest rate cuts and tax cuts. He been at work doing the two former to make up for his tax breaks from before. We'll see how that well looks in 10 months. Tariffs aren't an arrow. They're fuel to the flame.

Funny thing about the interest rates and QE, he was extremely opposed to them when the economy was on the verge of collapse but he is their champoin under "the greatest economy in the history of America."
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Democratic Governor John Bel Edwards won the Louisiana governor's election Saturday evening, the Associated Press reports.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/louisiana- ... eelection/
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Well, how about that. Having Trump on your side may not be such a great thing after all.
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What's crazy is that Edwards got over 90% of the vote in New Orleans. Sure, urban areas lean Democratic as a rule, but still...90%+ is a crazy percentage to get anywhere.
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I didn't dig deep into the LA race, but it sounds like it was an interesting recipe for Deep South Dem victory:

1) The Democrat was already an incumbent and had pretty good favorables.

2) He ran almost as an Independent, presenting himself on the basis of his Louisiana bona fides (family, military service, etc) rather than as a member of Nancy Pelosi's Posse.

3) The Republican, while perhaps not a pedophile like Roy Moore or a slithering asshole like Matt Bevin, campaigned on his deep and total allegiance to Donald Trump.

Maybe the most interesting result was that the GOP failed to win a supermajority, something that was definitely thought to be within reach. This suggests something larger than just the race between two Gubernatorial personalities.
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