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Queen becomes the UK’s longest-serving monarch
WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
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WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
Doug Stanhope On Royalty
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Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.Moliere wrote:Queen becomes the UK’s longest-serving monarch
WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
Doug Stanhope On Royalty
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It gives the Brits something to cling to after their empire has crumbled.
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I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
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I dunno, where do they stand on gay marriage?hepcat wrote:I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
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We know Charles is loony about astrology and homeopathic medicine.Jaymann wrote:I dunno, where do they stand on gay marriage?
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So it's not right that someone should be born into a position of affluence but it's OK that they're born to be murdered?Drazzil wrote:Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.Moliere wrote:Queen becomes the UK’s longest-serving monarch
WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
Doug Stanhope On Royalty
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Some of their former colonies would beg to disagree. Just ask the Mau Mau from Kenya.hepcat wrote:I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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"Current" should have been included in my post. They're ceremonial nowadays. A national treasure more than anything else.
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More like a national embarrassment.hepcat wrote:A national treasure more than anything else.
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Being royalty gives you the right to opt out of FOIA requests, limiting the risk of exposing you as an alternative medicine supporter, one with access to the Prime Minister.
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The British seem to think otherwise.Moliere wrote:More like a national embarrassment.hepcat wrote:A national treasure more than anything else.
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.Isgrimnur wrote:Being royalty gives you the right to opt out of FOIA requests, limiting the risk of exposing you as an alternative medicine supporter, one with access to the Prime Minister.
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I have to admit, the queen is kinda cool.
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His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
His name makes me think of a small, burrowing rodent anyway.
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I sort of revel in the hatred expressed for the monarchy. It's funny.
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That's what her loyal subjects are supposed to say about their sovereign.Vorret wrote:I have to admit, the queen is kinda cool.
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I'm not sure that article says that we are required to have a specific opinion about the queen, but have at it.LawBeefaroni wrote:That's what her loyal subjects are supposed to say about their sovereign.Vorret wrote:I have to admit, the queen is kinda cool.
This isn't the first time you've pointed out that we are technically the Queen's subjects. I'm always confused as to your motives though. Are we supposed to be surprised? Embarrassed? Thrilled? Are you educating us (either Canadians or the forum in general)?
While it appears on paper that we are beholden to the Monarchy, the Queen doesn't even exert any power in her own government, let alone ours.
In any case, yes she is our Queen. I think she should have stepped down years ago, but she's freakin' stubborn.
Mostly I think the English keep the Royal family around because it's fun. Sure it costs a ton of money, but what the hell. Money's no good if you don't spend it. The truth of the matter is that the Monarchy exists due to the will of the people. The Queen is beholden to her subjects, not the other way around. She's basically a figurehead.
I think the current royal progeny understand that, and resent it, but not how you might think. They don't resent not being all powerful, they resent that their entire lives are planned out for them. They have almost zero freedom to do what they want, unless they want to be manikins propped up for public display, in which case they got lucky.
While there is a lot of privilege and wealth that goes with the Royal family, there is a lot of obligation, duty and structure too.
My kids have more freedom than the royal family does.
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If by treasure you mean a massive financial suck on the economy.hepcat wrote:"Current" should have been included in my post. They're ceremonial nowadays. A national treasure more than anything else.
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Costs
According to Buckingham Palace, sustaining the royal family costs Britons 53 pence, or about 81 cents, per person, per year. The total came to about 33.3 million pounds (about $51.1 million) for 2012-2013, according to the Palace, up from 32.4 million pounds the previous year.
However, the awesomely titled Sir Alan Reid, Keeper of the Privy Purse, noted that figure is actually down by 24 percent from 2008-2009, for what it's worth.
But some British republicans -- those who want to abolish the monarchy -- say the actual cost is much higher, once you factor in things like security detail and the cost of preparing for royal visits. Their figure is about 200 million pounds, or $307 million.
The group Republic broke it down to include things like 3.9 million pounds for travel, half a million pounds for Prince Charles and Camilla Parker-Bowles, and some 400,000 pounds for public relations.
The royal couple's bundle of joy will drive up that cost, of course, as babies tend to do. The price of delivery at the duchess's birthing suite in St. Mary's hospital reportedly costs 10,000 pounds, or about $15,300. "Of course, that doesn't include the reported pre-delivery yoga classes at Kensington Palace or visits to private birthing coaches," the Christian Science Monitor noted.
But there's an upside to shelling out for a tradition that some think should have gone the way of the penny-farthing or the Puffing Billy.
The British tourism agency has reported that the royal family generates close to 500 million pounds, or about $767 million, every year in tourism revenue, drawing visitors to historic royal sites like the Tower of London, Windsor Castle, and Buckingham Palace. The country's tourism agency says that of the 30 million foreign visitors who came to Britain in 2010, 5.8 million visited a castle .
Tourism is the third-biggest industry in the U.K., the tourism board claims, and supports about 2.6 million jobs -- or about one in 12.
Baby Cambridge is set to boost consumer spending even more, according to Britain's Center for Retail Research, to the tune of $383 million. (Commemorative tea cups or iPhone covers, anyone?) The chief U.K. economist at the consulting firm IHS Global Insight also predicts that the birth would have an "overwhelmingly positive" economic impact.
What's more, a British firm called Brand Finance, which evaluates "intangible assets," said the royal wedding alone boosted London's economy by 107 million pounds ($165 million) through "accommodation, travel, and nightlife," even while factoring in the economic drag of time off work.
Judging solely from those statistics (which obviously vary in their methodology), it does seem like the monarchy pays for itself, at least in the years that feature familial mega-events.
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I think their £1.832 trillion economy can handle it.Jeff V wrote:If by treasure you mean a massive financial suck on the economy.hepcat wrote:"Current" should have been included in my post. They're ceremonial nowadays. A national treasure more than anything else.
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Drazzil just wants their chair (throne).Drazzil wrote:Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
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It was a joke. Take it easy.GreenGoo wrote:I'm not sure that article says that we are required to have a specific opinion about the queen, but have at it.LawBeefaroni wrote:That's what her loyal subjects are supposed to say about their sovereign.Vorret wrote:I have to admit, the queen is kinda cool.
This isn't the first time you've pointed out that we are technically the Queen's subjects. I'm always confused as to your motives though. Are we supposed to be surprised? Embarrassed? Thrilled? Are you educating us (either Canadians or the forum in general)?
While it appears on paper that we are beholden to the Monarchy, the Queen doesn't even exert any power in her own government, let alone ours.
In any case, yes she is our Queen. I think she should have stepped down years ago, but she's freakin' stubborn.
You Canadians are so tetchy. (<----This is another joke.)
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Did the British royalty actively set policy for Kenya? Somehow, methinks not.
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Given their lack of transparency on issues such as this, the world may never know. Also, Elizabeth was in Kenya when she succeeded to the throne.
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So what you are saying is that you have no evidence for your assertion. Thanks for confirming that for meIsgrimnur wrote:Given their lack of transparency on issues such as this, the world may never know. Also, Elizabeth was in Kenya when she succeeded to the throne.
I'll also add that for many years now the role of English royalty has been largely ceremonial. They are advised by the govt of various actions but they don't really make policy. They are supposed to be above politics, not tied any program or party. It's been that way for a long time.
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LawBeefaroni wrote:It was a joke. Take it easy.
You Canadians are so tetchy. (<----This is another joke.)
No worries, although I don't understand the second joke. I assume it revolves around tetchy, but I don't get it. I'm not being intentionally obtuse just to ruin it either. It went over my head.
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Wishing death upon innocent people in a very specific manner. Nice.Drazzil wrote:Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.Moliere wrote:Queen becomes the UK’s longest-serving monarch
WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
Doug Stanhope On Royalty
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If their royal family substitutes for reality tv celebrities, that's a good tradeoff. Do the Brits and Canucks have anything akin to Kardassians?
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Because that worked out so well?Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
... I think the British royals are an embarrassing anachronism, but that's about it. Why in the world do you believe as you do? Do you think figurehead royalty is responsible for anything at this point? If you think they deserve cruel punishment, what for?
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Now that you mention it Prince Charles does remind me a little of Bruce Jenner......Kraken wrote:If their royal family substitutes for reality tv celebrities, that's a good tradeoff. Do the Brits and Canucks have anything akin to Kardassians?
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Forget it, Jake. It's Drazzil.TiLT wrote:Wishing death upon innocent people in a very specific manner. Nice.Drazzil wrote:Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.Moliere wrote:Queen becomes the UK’s longest-serving monarch
WTF do we still have people running around pretending like they were born special? She should abdicate and shut down the whole "royalty" system.
Doug Stanhope On Royalty
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It is a nice chair!Grifman wrote:Drazzil just wants their chair (throne).Drazzil wrote:Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
I think the monarchy helps to make the UK, the UK. The one last little place that nationalism is sort of ok with liberal elitists. We all know it's definitely not permitted in the USA.
Technically, he shouldn't be here.
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You make literally no sense.em2nought wrote:It is a nice chair!Grifman wrote:Drazzil just wants their chair (throne).Drazzil wrote:Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
I think the monarchy helps to make the UK, the UK. The one last little place that nationalism is sort of ok with liberal elitists. We all know it's definitely not permitted in the USA.
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Sorry, I thought you were talking about royalty in general. Actually the Brit royalty has been pretty good about things.hepcat wrote:I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
Daehawk wrote:Thats Drazzil's chair damnit.
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Canadians don't, I'm not sure about Brits.Kraken wrote:If their royal family substitutes for reality tv celebrities, that's a good tradeoff. Do the Brits and Canucks have anything akin to Kardassians?
Both countries love their reality tv though, just like Americans. So no, it's not a substitution.
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And I thought we were talking about Royalty in general, not the British monarchy specifically.hepcat wrote:I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
Daehawk wrote:Thats Drazzil's chair damnit.
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em2nought wrote:It is a nice chair!Grifman wrote:Drazzil just wants their chair (throne).Drazzil wrote:Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
I think the monarchy helps to make the UK, the UK. The one last little place that nationalism is sort of ok with liberal elitists. We all know it's definitely not permitted in the USA.
Daehawk wrote:Thats Drazzil's chair damnit.
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So... who? You think we should machine gun Leopold II? Richard III? King Friday?Drazzil wrote:And I thought we were talking about Royalty in general, not the British monarchy specifically.hepcat wrote:I'd hardly call the British royalty a tyrannical rule.Drazzil wrote: Sometimes, very rarely they can serve in leadership/national mascot roles. I am by and large in favor of handling royalty the way the Russians handled their royalty. Round them all up and machine gun them to death in their basements.
Is there somewhere in the world today where royalty deserves slaughter?
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