Anybody try CBD?

[Daehawk]

Ok Ive been testing smoking full flower hemp for about a week now and thought Id update this thread for you guys in case you wanted some info.

I bought 2 different strains of 1 oz each and it was $15. There were Wife and the other Cherry Kush. They are both hybrids which means sativa and indica combined..more indica I believe ...which is what Id use for actual weed if it was legal. I didn't noticed a different in the two at all much so I combined them both into one container.

I smoke a bowl at a time which is a good sized pinch. It takes me about 15 min to do it and I cant smoke it faster or more because it irritates my throat and lungs too much.

Remember this is hemp.....no bloodshot eyes, no dry mouth, no snack hunger. Sorry to say not much of anything for me. It looks like good weed. It smells like good weed. It smokes like weed. But Im not seeing enough effects to justify the price and harsh lungs,.

I wanted it to replace my opiates for my problems. Pain, sleep, stress/anxiety. Lets compare it to a perfect opiate relief medicine if one existed. If my pain meds were a 10 then the hemp is......1-10 10 as best.....

sleep - 2
mood - 2
pain - 3

Alone if Id never had pain meds then Id guess

sleep 3
mood 2
pain 5

I wish weed was legal so it would help. Oh well. I dont see me buying more unless I try one more type. I asked the sales girl for just those things...mood then pain then sleep and this is what I got. I will look up more and if I do get some more sometime Ill know more what I want instead of random. But I dont see it being any different right now. Weed is weed and helpful...hemp is fabric and rope making weed I was expecting too much going in.

[LawBeefaroni]

Did you ever get a diagnosis of the cause of your back pain?

[morlac]

IMO you really need THC + CBD's to cause enough pain relief to ween off opiates. My Dad went from 4-6 pain pills a day to none for about 7 of the last 8 months he lived, only going back to the pain meds for the last month or so but never as much as he was on prior. It made a huge difference in his quality of life for the last year or so. Huge. My sister and Brother in law are now fully Pro THC/CBD after being fairly strong against it prior to this experience.

Oh and Fuck Cancer.

[Alefroth]

How far are you from Illinois? Might be worth a road trip.

[Daehawk]

Did you ever get a diagnosis of the cause of your back pain?

Its degenerative disk disease with scoliosis, arthritis, and bone spurs. It hurts all the time from a 4-10 on a scale and slips out all the time if I stand up or sit down or sneeze just right. Then Im not walking or I walk bent over like Professor Farnsworth on Futurama. Mine started when I was 14 or 15 in high school. Sat down for study hall and couldn't stand up again.

IMO you really need THC + CBD's to cause enough pain relief to ween off opiates. My Dad went from 4-6 pain pills a day to none for about 7 of the last 8 months he lived, only going back to the pain meds for the last month or so but never as much as he was on prior. It made a huge difference in his quality of life for the last year or so. Huge. My sister and Brother in law are now fully Pro THC/CBD after being fairly strong against it prior to this experience.

Oh Im not using it to ween off. After 8 years I simply cold turkey walked away. Haven't had a pill in a year. I was just looking for something to help. I was taking Tylenol and Ibuprofen. They weren't doing anything at all for my back but were helping my hands I fell on. The left one aches all the time, is weak, and just not right. But they started upsetting my stomach to where I had puked lately. So wanted to get off them. Now I am but without something else Im up hurt creek. I guess Ill have to live this way until weed is legal or something else is done.

[Smoove_B]

Not a doctor (but I did cut lawns professionally for two summers), but there isn't a pill you could take or a bowl of weed big enough for you to smoke that is going to help with a degenerative spine condition. The best you could hope for would be that either would put you into a drug coma and you don't care about the intense pain you're in. IMHO your energy should be focused on meeting with doctors/specialists that can come up with a better plan. Numbing yourself out to the point of uselessness isn't addressing the core issue here. The energy being spent to find the right blend of magic herbs should be refocused on meeting with a doctor that specializes in your condition.

[LawBeefaroni]

Not a doctor (but I did cut lawns professionally for two summers), but there isn't a pill you could take or a bowl of weed big enough for you to smoke that is going to help with a degenerative spine condition. The best you could hope for would be that either would put you into a drug coma and you don't care about the intense pain you're in. IMHO your energy should be focused on meeting with doctors/specialists that can come up with a better plan. Numbing yourself out to the point of uselessness isn't addressing the core issue here. The energy being spent to find the right blend of magic herbs should be refocused on meeting with a doctor that specializes in your condition.

This. And that's why I asked because drugging the pain isn't always the answer for pain.

[Alefroth]

And some people are recommending magic herbs because they know what is realistic.

[Z-Corn]

Dae, pretty sure you got grams of flowers and not ounces for $15. Sorry, I'm a stickler for accuracy!

I've experimented this new year with several strains from several farms and some are definitely better than others. Like any agricultural product there will be a lot of variability.

[Z-Corn]

How far are you from Illinois? Might be worth a road trip.

Very cost prohibitive, sadly. Plus the whole crossing state lines thing...

Better off finding a local plug.

[Daehawk]

Yes grams sorry. 2 grams total seems to be about 7 or so smokes.

[morlac]

Not a doctor (but I did cut lawns professionally for two summers), but there isn't a pill you could take or a bowl of weed big enough for you to smoke that is going to help with a degenerative spine condition. The best you could hope for would be that either would put you into a drug coma and you don't care about the intense pain you're in. IMHO your energy should be focused on meeting with doctors/specialists that can come up with a better plan. Numbing yourself out to the point of uselessness isn't addressing the core issue here. The energy being spent to find the right blend of magic herbs should be refocused on meeting with a doctor that specializes in your condition.

This for sure but there is nothing wrong with discussing pain management options outside of that as it's going to part of any new plan they put together. Plus he has already decided that a plan involving shoving opiates down his throat won't work for him. That does not mean he shouldn't be consulting them on occupational therapy, steroid injections, etc. To be clear though, there isn't a "fix" for this condition that won't involve pain mgmt.

[LawBeefaroni]

Not a doctor (but I did cut lawns professionally for two summers), but there isn't a pill you could take or a bowl of weed big enough for you to smoke that is going to help with a degenerative spine condition. The best you could hope for would be that either would put you into a drug coma and you don't care about the intense pain you're in. IMHO your energy should be focused on meeting with doctors/specialists that can come up with a better plan. Numbing yourself out to the point of uselessness isn't addressing the core issue here. The energy being spent to find the right blend of magic herbs should be refocused on meeting with a doctor that specializes in your condition.

This for sure but there is nothing wrong with discussing pain management options outside of that as it's going to part of any new plan they put together. Plus he has already decided that a plan involving shoving opiates down his throat won't work for him. That does not mean he shouldn't be consulting them on occupational therapy, steroid injections, etc. To be clear though, there isn't a "fix" for this condition that won't involve pain mgmt.

Ignoring invasive surgical procedures (which may help but let's ignore those for now), there are exercise and physical therapy treatments that can help and that can be coordinated with drugs. Point is that shooting in the dark with herbal suppliments and/or unprescribed controlled substances is probably the least effective solution. Seek professional help for a professional solution.


And I know it's a bitch. My mom has been dealing with and chasing down treatment for degenerative spine and back issues for a few decades now. She makes incremental progress but it is no picnic and is a constant battle. She has looked at CBD and will probably try some THC next time she's here but always with input from her doctors.

[dbt1949]

In my latest craze, I have some serious nerve problems that occurs every month or two and I'm taking another homeopathic med called Benfotiamine. Too early to see if it's gonna work.

[Daehawk]

Dont you love modern medicines? They tell you take this but it wont work for at least a month. Then if it does or not its hell to come off off due to terrible withdrawal stuff and will take another month to get out of your system and more time to get over the withdrawal. Or they give you something for something simple and the side effect is pain or death. "Here take this for asthma but you may die from an asthma attack"...umm isn't asthma why you take it? "Here take this for a hangnail but it may can anal leakage"...weeee. Medicine is a rabbit hole. Modern healthcare is SO primitive.

[dbt1949]

Well, I have talked to my VA doctor but he don't know what to do. So he does nothing.

[Smoove_B]

Modern healthcare is SO primitive.

Part of the problem is that people aren't truthful with their doctors when asked questions and/or they try to figure things out on their own. Doctors are not perfect and they should be questioned. When my mom was going through cancer treatments last year she was lying to the doctors about taking certain medications and the symptoms she was having. So they switched meds and made things worse. And then she continued to lie about taking them and that's how she eventually ended up in the hospital. Magically when she had no control over what to takeg because they were giving her medication via IV her symptoms and problems went away. This confused the doctors because all they were doing was giving her medication via IV that she was allegedly taking in pill form.

Regardless, it's primitive, but it's also only as good as the information that's being shared. If people aren't telling their doctor what's happening, the doctor is just guessing.

[Daehawk]

the doctor is just guessing

Basically sums up medicine.

[Smoove_B]

Not all guesses are equal though. Some are well informed. But when a patient isn't accurately communicating back with them, that's a problem. There's also really bad doctors that don't ask or don't trust patients to give them information and so they rely too heavily on whatever tests or tools they have access too. It can be a nightmare. It doesn't have to be.

[LordMortis]

"Here take this for asthma but you may die from an asthma attack"

I concur with the headmed withdraw stuff and side effects being worse than intended effects and that doctors and pharmaceuticals aren't necessarily as right as they'd have you believe. (Though I think genetic screening will start making that better, where drug interactions based studying your genetics will become more common and less expensive) I reject this one though. It's not so much that these inhalers are killing people formoterol etc... are what people grab when they are having an attack, so when the med doesn't work like a rescue inhaler much less an epipen, people associate it with actually being the problem, rather than not being the solution. Kinda like how head trauma went up dramatically after soldiers started wearing helmets.