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Rental van.

Nothing else known.

Driver in custody.

Motive/reason not clear.

Hopefully just a medical emergency.
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Possibly 5 dead.
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Being arrested. Without a shot fired.




This guy is trying af to get shot. Take draws his cell phone in a gun manner. Cop is chill. Wow.
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Seeing that the van fled/tried to flee the scene. If true, not likely a driver medical emergency.



Kind of a petty thought but Britons spell curb as "kerb?"
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WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 3:55 pm Being arrested. Without a shot fired.




This guy is trying af to get shot. Take draws his cell phone in a gun manner. Cop is chill. Wow.
The hell? People behind him just kind of walking by?

And yeah, he wanted to get shot, he kept "drawing" his phone. Can only guess that the cop recognized as a cell phone. Otherwise he was just damn lucky that it was.
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Yeah. Medical emergency is definitely not it.
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McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
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Black Lives definitely Matter Lorini!

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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
Seen here.
BBC Headline wrote: Toronto collision: Pedestrians injured after van mounts kerb
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LawBeefaroni wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
BBC Headline wrote: Toronto collision: Pedestrians injured after van mounts kerb
Yeah I was just giving more examples. Canadian English is closer to British English when written. Although we mostly use tire, they use tyre.

But yes, kerb.
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first time I've seen it spelled that way.

Sucks when it its close to home, such a cowardly act to kill innocent people going about their day like that. Very sad.
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
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Yep, looks like a suicide-by-cop attempt to me.

We had one here last night. A guy rode around on a moped shooting an airsoft gun at at least 4 cop cars. They arrested him when he crashed his moped into a car. He asked the cops to kill him.
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9 dead 16 injured.


Ugh
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Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
? As opposed to? Sorry blanking
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
? As opposed to? Sorry blanking
It would be spelled "plow" in Trump's USA.
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It's harder to get the long one on the back of a jacket

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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:52 pm 9 dead 16 injured.


Ugh
Oh crap! That's fucking awful.

Glad he didn't get the death he wanted and I hope it pains him every day of the rest of his life.
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Yeah, I don't mean to make light of the situation. This is terrible.
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Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
? As opposed to? Sorry blanking
It would be spelled "plow" in Trump's USA.
Ooooh right
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tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:40 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
? As opposed to? Sorry blanking
It would be spelled "plow" in Trump's USA.
Ooooh right
Oddly enough, it's been spelled "plow" for as long as I can remember, which is very significantly longer than Trump has been a public figure of any sort. Odd, that, almost like Trump has absolutely nothing to do with this situation at all. Who would have thought?
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DD* wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:50 pm
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:40 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:53 pm
Z-Corn wrote:
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:00 pm
McNutt wrote:WTF? They spell it "kerb?"
Kerb.
Tyre.
Colour.

all kinds of crazy! Hehe
plough
? As opposed to? Sorry blanking
It would be spelled "plow" in Trump's USA.
Ooooh right
Oddly enough, it's been spelled "plow" for as long as I can remember, which is very significantly longer than Trump has been a public figure of any sort. Odd, that, almost like Trump has absolutely nothing to do with this situation at all. Who would have thought?
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 5:06 pm
tjg_marantz wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 4:52 pm 9 dead 16 injured.


Ugh
Oh crap! That's fucking awful.

Glad he didn't get the death he wanted and I hope it pains him every day of the rest of his life.
I'm glad my tax dollars are not paying for this guy's room and board for the next 40-50 years.
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Suspect named. I used to live there...kind of surreal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/p ... -1.4631564
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Take it to R&P, Moliere. You've obviously got an axe to grind today.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:20 pm Take it to R&P, Moliere. You've obviously got an axe to grind today.
So someone is allowed to rejoice about him spending a lot of time in jail and I'm not allowed to comment on that? I didn't make my comment in a vacuum. And if you're referencing my posts with Enough in the Earth Day thread then you obviously missed that I was making light of the internet.

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Moliere wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:25 pm
Isgrimnur wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 7:20 pm Take it to R&P, Moliere. You've obviously got an axe to grind today.
So someone is allowed to rejoice about him spending a lot of time in jail and I'm not allowed to comment on that? I didn't make my comment in a vacuum. And if you're referencing my posts with Enough in the Earth Day thread then you obviously missed that I was making light of the internet.

Take your advice somewhere else.
I was commenting on the fact that he didn't get what he wanted. If he wanted to spend the rest of his life in jail I'd prefer he was shot dead.
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https://coed.com/2018/04/23/alek-minass ... y-details/
Former NYC Police commissioner Bill Bratton told MSNBC that Minassian was previously known to authorities before the attack as a potential terror suspect.
...and another one falls through the cracks. :wink:
Technically, he shouldn't be here.
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Hmmmm, that wasn't mentioned in the news here. Apparently he identified as an "incel" and mentioned the guy from California that killed a bunch of people because he couldn't get any

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/t ... -1.4632435
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Did he do it just so they would kill him? What a selfish bastard. If thats the case then simply set up suicide booths. Go into a cylinder shaped stainless steel booth, answer some questions, talk to a video conference professional, then after 10 min if all is to order you push a button that somehow kills you and flushes your corpse to a receiving center through a bank like tube. Stop killing others just so you can die.
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Daehawk wrote: Mon Apr 23, 2018 11:12 pm Did he do it just so they would kill him? What a selfish bastard. If thats the case then simply set up suicide booths. .
That's been a thing since 1893 so you're in good company. Vonnegut introduced the idea to me. They're usually dystopian, but we're living in a dystopia so that's fine with me.
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From your link...
Compulsory self-execution booths were also featured in an episode of the original Star Trek TV series entitled "A Taste of Armageddon"
,....I was thinking of that when I posted it.
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For what it's worth, I always spell it curb. It's indeed a curious mix of British and American, but I think we've shifted to mostly American, save for the "u" in neighbours, saviour, flavour.

So the workplace was a bit of a somber mood yesterday but we're pretty much back to normal today. I personally don't get the whole "Toronto Strong" thing, it's one random, mentally-disturbed person. It's tragic, but in society today, shit like this happens.
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Here's a Twitter explainer thread from someone who has been researching the misogynist "Incel" community.
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So, I work in an office building less than 1500 feet north of where the attack began. I also live about 5km away from the perpetrator's house in the same suburb north of Toronto (up until last year, about half as far away). It's been surreal.

I wasn't at work yesterday, but I had coworkers who could see the aftermath from the windows of our building. I heard one of our staff may have been at street level around when it occurred, but I can't confirm. There was also a panic when a co-worker who was also off duty but lives nearby couldn't be found after a long dog walk during which she left her phone at home, but thankfully she was found safe.

No one in my circle of acquaintances was directly affected, thankfully. But as it's probably common to think, it could have been any one of us. While I don't think I've ever walked down that side of the street (we only moved to this building late last year), I'm frequently blasting my headphones as I walk from the nearby bus terminal to the office. I was south of where the attack started on the other side of the street a little over a week ago, buying an ice scraper from a gas station for a friend on the day of the ice storm, and getting a slice of pizza for lunch.

I think my response is largely rational.... It could have been me, or someone I know. But it could have been anyone. Death can come at any moment. Life goes on. Still, I can't help but feel an element of shock. I can't imaging living in a part of the world where such violence is a part of daily life, reminding me of a good friend and co-worker who's Afghan. Mind you, there's no direct relation between the cause of that kind of violence and what seems to have transpired here. But the effect is the same.

As I commuted south to work this morning, I couldn't help thinking it was probably the same route the killer took just hours earlier. I tried to imagine what could possibly have been going through his head at the time, as he saw the same sights and passed by the same buildings.

With so much senseless violence in Colorado in recent years, these must be thoughts many of OO's CO contingent have had. (Coincidentally, my company has a branch in Denver.)

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Holman wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:56 pm Here's a Twitter explainer thread from someone who has been researching the misogynist "Incel" community.
Had no idea about the that particular offshoot. Vaguely knew such people existed but not that organized. Fucking asshole idiots.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 am
Holman wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:56 pm Here's a Twitter explainer thread from someone who has been researching the misogynist "Incel" community.
Had no idea about the that particular offshoot. Vaguely knew such people existed but not that organized. Fucking asshole idiots.
I guess incels never heard of backpage. Makes you wonder what might happen if backpage suddenly disappeared? :think:
Technically, he shouldn't be here.
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em2nought wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:53 am
LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:32 am
Holman wrote: Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:56 pm Here's a Twitter explainer thread from someone who has been researching the misogynist "Incel" community.
Had no idea about the that particular offshoot. Vaguely knew such people existed but not that organized. Fucking asshole idiots.
I guess incels never heard of backpage. Makes you wonder what might happen if backpage suddenly disappeared? :think:
Right. They've never heard of it. And if they can abuse and murder trafficked minors they might not decide to drive a van through a crowd. Awesome!

It takes a special kind of shitbag to do what this guy did and I don't think a cheap handjob or hotel sex would change him.
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em2nought wrote: Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:53 am I guess incels never heard of backpage. Makes you wonder what might happen if backpage suddenly disappeared? :think:
From what I'm reading (depressing stuff), the worldview of the "true believers" is twisted far beyond what that would accomplish. To generalize, anyone other than a virgin is a "slut", but since the incels are doomed to be ignored, even those they deem pure are dismissed as sluts-to-be. Unless it's trolling (and at this point, I doubt it matters because it's influencing the impressionable among them), there are legitimate calls for government-regulated girlfiends/sexual partners, which I presume sounds like something out of The Handmaid's Tale (which I haven't read nor watched).

This is a deeply disturbed subculture that seems to be on par with a cult. The 21st century's online extremist echo chambers may as well be that.

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