Insomnia is visiting.
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- Daehawk
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Insomnia is visiting.
Up until my 30's I never had a bit of trouble sleeping at any time. I could sleep standing up in a storm. In my 30's though I'd sometimes get insomnia for a week but maybe only once every few years.
Now Im in my 40's and this week sucked! All week I've gotten MAYBE 5 hours of sleep a night IF Im lucky. But I've been up since Saturday at 5pm now. It's nearly 5:30am Monday. I took a double dose of my Soma last night thinking it would help and went to bed at 10pm. Just as I thought I was going to fall asleep I rolled over on the phone and set off it's damn pager sound....&*%&%^$#@!@#%^. So for 2 more hours I laid there trying to sleep. I know I got a 53 min nap in..I remember the strange dream and looking at the clock confirmed 53 min passed or so.
So here I am..I've given up on sleeping and Im pouring caffeine down my throat to make sure I can stay awake. Just a warning to you motorists....I have to go out of town today so if you're on TN highways and roads be aware..I am too
Now Im in my 40's and this week sucked! All week I've gotten MAYBE 5 hours of sleep a night IF Im lucky. But I've been up since Saturday at 5pm now. It's nearly 5:30am Monday. I took a double dose of my Soma last night thinking it would help and went to bed at 10pm. Just as I thought I was going to fall asleep I rolled over on the phone and set off it's damn pager sound....&*%&%^$#@!@#%^. So for 2 more hours I laid there trying to sleep. I know I got a 53 min nap in..I remember the strange dream and looking at the clock confirmed 53 min passed or so.
So here I am..I've given up on sleeping and Im pouring caffeine down my throat to make sure I can stay awake. Just a warning to you motorists....I have to go out of town today so if you're on TN highways and roads be aware..I am too
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- WYBaugh
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
Funny you should mention this.
I had a sleep study last night with lots of study and little sleep but have you thought of going through this? A symptom of sleep apnea is insomnia. May be worth it to get yourself checked out if you haven't before.
I had a sleep study last night with lots of study and little sleep but have you thought of going through this? A symptom of sleep apnea is insomnia. May be worth it to get yourself checked out if you haven't before.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
I am actually very sure I have sleep apnea, and I also have insomnia.
It's like a cat that starts peeing everywhere other than its litter box when it has a urinary tract infection, it starts to associate the litterbox with the pain.
For us humans, it's like associating the bed, and sleep, with the horrifying experience of suffocation. Partly why I want to lose more weight.
That said, do you sleep with your blinds open or closed? I've found it helps for us computer types to leave the blinds open in the office, and in the bedroom, to make sure sunlight gets through, providing a better setting for our internal clocks. While readjusting to a proper sleep schedule, having the sun, and the alarm clock, working together to get you up and going is a big deal.
It's like a cat that starts peeing everywhere other than its litter box when it has a urinary tract infection, it starts to associate the litterbox with the pain.
For us humans, it's like associating the bed, and sleep, with the horrifying experience of suffocation. Partly why I want to lose more weight.
That said, do you sleep with your blinds open or closed? I've found it helps for us computer types to leave the blinds open in the office, and in the bedroom, to make sure sunlight gets through, providing a better setting for our internal clocks. While readjusting to a proper sleep schedule, having the sun, and the alarm clock, working together to get you up and going is a big deal.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
I've been suffering from periodic bouts of insomnia for almost 3 years now.
...it's not fun.
However, there are a few things you can do:
1) Get a physical. You want to find out whether it's physiological or psychological. Until you know which it is, you're going to be blindly fighting it. The rest of this list assumes it's psychological as that's my issue (and what I paid a therapist way too much money to work on).
2) Turn that damn alarm clock AROUND. You don't want to be aware of time when you're sleeping. Sure, use it to get up in the morning, but place it on the other side of your room and facing the opposite direction.
3) Ambien is a short term solution if you're experiencing periodic bouts of insomnia. It's not meant for long term though, so don't view it as a permanent solution. I started with 5 mg but eventually graduated to 10 mg. I'm afraid to go any higher, but 10 seems to work when I'm sure I'm not going to be able to sleep. Ask your doctor about it during your physical exam.
4) Try math. I usually just start counting. But some studies show that doing math problems is helpful in getting your mind off the attempt to sleep and the ensuing frustration that can drive it (the biggest problem I have).
5) My therapist suggested keeping a sleep journal. I suggested she make another suggestion. However, it may work for some. Just not for me.
6) One relaxation technique I read about quite a lot when researching insomnia was tensing your toes for a few seconds, then unclenching them. Work your way up your body from there doing the same thing with each muscle group. To be honest though, this always left me MORE awake than I was when I started the technique. But supposedly it works wonders for some.
7) I know this is going to sound counterproductive, but my therapist told me that sometimes you just have to ride it out. Your body won't let you go TOO long without sleep (unless it's the result of a physical issue) so eventually you're going to sleep. Knowing that that is going to happen sometimes takes some of the fear out of insomnia.
8) KEEP TO A SET SLEEP SCHEDULE! Go to bed around the same time every night for the foreseeable future (if not forever). You need to train your body to know when it's time to sleep.
9) Turn down the temperature an hour or two before you go to bed. Our bodies are trained to fall asleep easier when it's cooler. It's a neanderthal thing I guess.
10) Try taking melatonin about 30 minutes before bed. I take 5 mg and it's readily available at any drug store. It helps with your sleep cycle if you're trying to keep with a set schedule as mentioned above.
11) Wind down each night before bed. Stop video gaming, watching films with action, etc. about an hour or two before bed time. Also, the glow of a computer monitor, iPad or Kindle is shown to trigger a daylight response in some folks with sleep issues. Try avoiding any of those during this wind down time.
I'll try to think of some more things, but that's the highlights.
...it's not fun.
However, there are a few things you can do:
1) Get a physical. You want to find out whether it's physiological or psychological. Until you know which it is, you're going to be blindly fighting it. The rest of this list assumes it's psychological as that's my issue (and what I paid a therapist way too much money to work on).
2) Turn that damn alarm clock AROUND. You don't want to be aware of time when you're sleeping. Sure, use it to get up in the morning, but place it on the other side of your room and facing the opposite direction.
3) Ambien is a short term solution if you're experiencing periodic bouts of insomnia. It's not meant for long term though, so don't view it as a permanent solution. I started with 5 mg but eventually graduated to 10 mg. I'm afraid to go any higher, but 10 seems to work when I'm sure I'm not going to be able to sleep. Ask your doctor about it during your physical exam.
4) Try math. I usually just start counting. But some studies show that doing math problems is helpful in getting your mind off the attempt to sleep and the ensuing frustration that can drive it (the biggest problem I have).
5) My therapist suggested keeping a sleep journal. I suggested she make another suggestion. However, it may work for some. Just not for me.
6) One relaxation technique I read about quite a lot when researching insomnia was tensing your toes for a few seconds, then unclenching them. Work your way up your body from there doing the same thing with each muscle group. To be honest though, this always left me MORE awake than I was when I started the technique. But supposedly it works wonders for some.
7) I know this is going to sound counterproductive, but my therapist told me that sometimes you just have to ride it out. Your body won't let you go TOO long without sleep (unless it's the result of a physical issue) so eventually you're going to sleep. Knowing that that is going to happen sometimes takes some of the fear out of insomnia.
8) KEEP TO A SET SLEEP SCHEDULE! Go to bed around the same time every night for the foreseeable future (if not forever). You need to train your body to know when it's time to sleep.
9) Turn down the temperature an hour or two before you go to bed. Our bodies are trained to fall asleep easier when it's cooler. It's a neanderthal thing I guess.
10) Try taking melatonin about 30 minutes before bed. I take 5 mg and it's readily available at any drug store. It helps with your sleep cycle if you're trying to keep with a set schedule as mentioned above.
11) Wind down each night before bed. Stop video gaming, watching films with action, etc. about an hour or two before bed time. Also, the glow of a computer monitor, iPad or Kindle is shown to trigger a daylight response in some folks with sleep issues. Try avoiding any of those during this wind down time.
I'll try to think of some more things, but that's the highlights.
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- LordMortis
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
[quote="hepcat"6) One relaxation technique I read about quite a lot when researching insomnia was tensing your toes for a few seconds, then unclenching them. Work your way up your body from there doing the same thing with each muscle group. To be honest though, this always left me MORE awake than I was when I started the technique. But supposedly it works wonders for some.[/quote]
This is the premise for auto hypnosis. Once you've relaxed all of your muscle then it's time to tighten up and relax your thoughts. That when math etc... kicks in.
I still get insomnia and I also am having more and more frequent nights where my breathing problems are triggered but I also ride it out on most days. Sleeping has gotten to be uncomfortable. Enough so that I'll say "fuck it" and get out of bed and so something, figuring I'll be exhausted at work but then I'll be able to come home and just pass out after work for the next day or too.
For me, I have to get back into weight loss. My sleep was way better when I was down to 175 pounds than it is my current 210.
This is the premise for auto hypnosis. Once you've relaxed all of your muscle then it's time to tighten up and relax your thoughts. That when math etc... kicks in.
This is important. Make a routine for going bed like you make a routine for getting up in the morning, which goes back to training yourself to go to sleep. I'll take it step farther and say don't watch TV and remove activities from your bedroom including TVs and books.11) Wind down each night before bed. Stop video gaming, watching films with action, etc. about an hour or two before bed time. Also, the glow of a computer monitor, iPad or Kindle is shown to trigger a daylight response in some folks with sleep issues. Try avoiding any of those during this wind down time.
I still get insomnia and I also am having more and more frequent nights where my breathing problems are triggered but I also ride it out on most days. Sleeping has gotten to be uncomfortable. Enough so that I'll say "fuck it" and get out of bed and so something, figuring I'll be exhausted at work but then I'll be able to come home and just pass out after work for the next day or too.
For me, I have to get back into weight loss. My sleep was way better when I was down to 175 pounds than it is my current 210.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
No apnea..wife would tell me.
Have some Lunesta but dont like to use it.
That cooler before bed sounds interesting.
I cut out all caffeine 4-5 hours before bed. I drink only water and milk usually.
Blinds closed. Wife cant stand light in the morning.
Doc weighed me today..200lbs. I've lost 8 pounds without trying. took 2 years but hey It's all muscle and handsomeness now. Shush laughing wife.
Have some Lunesta but dont like to use it.
That cooler before bed sounds interesting.
I cut out all caffeine 4-5 hours before bed. I drink only water and milk usually.
Blinds closed. Wife cant stand light in the morning.
Doc weighed me today..200lbs. I've lost 8 pounds without trying. took 2 years but hey It's all muscle and handsomeness now. Shush laughing wife.
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- Skinypupy
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
I've been having it off and on for the last 6 months or so. Tonight is the second night in a row where I'm up at nearly midnight unable to sleep, and have to wake up at 5:30am. Some of it is stress related (incoming twins will do that do a guy), but I think the last few night have been from playing Bioshock Infinite before bed. I can usually put aside any media I intake before hitting the sack, but I haven't been able to get this one out of my head for some reason. Curse you Vox Populi!
I finally broke down and took a 10mg Zolpidem last night. Helped me finally drift off, but makes me feel like an absolute zombie in the morning...to the point where I get a little nervous about driving to work. Think I'll just drink some water, start doing math, and hope for the best tonight.
I finally broke down and took a 10mg Zolpidem last night. Helped me finally drift off, but makes me feel like an absolute zombie in the morning...to the point where I get a little nervous about driving to work. Think I'll just drink some water, start doing math, and hope for the best tonight.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
Having done multiple sleep studies, Apnea is not always detectable by sound. My wife said I rarely sounded like I stopped breathing, but when it was actually measured I averaged waking 17 times an hour. And that's considered mild.Daehawk wrote:No apnea..wife would tell me.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
I thought of this thread as I crawled into bed last night at 12:30am and knew I was going to get up at 5:30-6:00. I call that my everyday routine.
For years now (since I became a daddy who also loves video games) I've been staying up until 12:00 and getting up around 5:30. The kids are down by 8:30, the wife turns in anywhere from 7:30-9:30, and I've got until midnight for games/movies/books. Some nights are broken by kids that need attending at 2:00am. Some mornings start at 5:00am if the kids get a false start or the dogs get each other going.
She's made the mistake of trying to do what I do a couple times and can't make it more than a day or two. I've always been someone who needed less sleep. Even without kids I was getting 6 - 7 hours a night and feeling normal. If I sleep longer than 7 hours, I feel terrible the next day.
Alternately, I sometimes imagine rising up out of my house and then higher and higher into the sky until I'm looking down at the earth and then speeding backwards further and further like one of those Powers of 10 videos. That also tends to knock me out.
For years now (since I became a daddy who also loves video games) I've been staying up until 12:00 and getting up around 5:30. The kids are down by 8:30, the wife turns in anywhere from 7:30-9:30, and I've got until midnight for games/movies/books. Some nights are broken by kids that need attending at 2:00am. Some mornings start at 5:00am if the kids get a false start or the dogs get each other going.
She's made the mistake of trying to do what I do a couple times and can't make it more than a day or two. I've always been someone who needed less sleep. Even without kids I was getting 6 - 7 hours a night and feeling normal. If I sleep longer than 7 hours, I feel terrible the next day.
So much of this. Even sleeping five hours a night, life stress was making me wake up at 3:00am, 4:00am, 5:00am just to check the clock. After I turned the clock around and covered all the extra lights (cable models, monitor LED's, router) I discovered that I was able to actually sleep through the night better and didn't constantly wake up to check the time.Hepcat wrote:Turn that damn alarm clock AROUND. You don't want to be aware of time when you're sleeping. Sure, use it to get up in the morning, but place it on the other side of your room and facing the opposite direction.
I go for the toes, feet, legs, hands, arms, and face - and then I'm about all done. It was an odd sensation one night to discover that I was wearing a furrowed brow to bed and relaxing my face felt much better.Hepcat wrote:One relaxation technique I read about quite a lot when researching insomnia was tensing your toes for a few seconds, then unclenching them. Work your way up your body from there doing the same thing with each muscle group. To be honest though, this always left me MORE awake than I was when I started the technique. But supposedly it works wonders for some.
Alternately, I sometimes imagine rising up out of my house and then higher and higher into the sky until I'm looking down at the earth and then speeding backwards further and further like one of those Powers of 10 videos. That also tends to knock me out.
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- Zarathud
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
Soneone shoot that damn bird chirping all last night. I need to stop playing Bioshock after 11 pm -- 30 min between saves leads to staying up too late and then the game gets into your head.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
This is me. Fortunately I was on a ~2:00am to 6:30am sleep schedule before the kid so I'm actually getting more sleep going to bed around midnight now. I mean I'm beating traffic, having breakfast, and all kinds of crazy stuff now.Paingod wrote:I thought of this thread as I crawled into bed last night at 12:30am and knew I was going to get up at 5:30-6:00. I call that my everyday routine.
For years now (since I became a daddy who also loves video games) I've been staying up until 12:00 and getting up around 5:30. The kids are down by 8:30, the wife turns in anywhere from 7:30-9:30, and I've got until midnight for games/movies/books. Some nights are broken by kids that need attending at 2:00am. Some mornings start at 5:00am if the kids get a false start or the dogs get each other going.
She's made the mistake of trying to do what I do a couple times and can't make it more than a day or two. I've always been someone who needed less sleep. Even without kids I was getting 6 - 7 hours a night and feeling normal. If I sleep longer than 7 hours, I feel terrible the next day.
Cut out all caffeine. Far easier said than done, of course, but it's a huge contributor to insomnia and sleep difficulties.Daehawk wrote: So here I am..I've given up on sleeping and Im pouring caffeine down my throat to make sure I can stay awake. Just a warning to you motorists....I have to go out of town today so if you're on TN highways and roads be aware..I am too
If you drink, have a glass or two of scotch or cognac or something about an hour before bed time. Also beware the rubberbanding effects of trying to juggle caffeine and sleep medications. I know a few people who have become zombies doing that dance.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
If I go to bed late, the elderly dog will probably be ok until morning from letting her out while I brush my teeth and so forth.
If I fall asleep early, she's going to get me up at 1:30 or 2am anyway. This isn't the worst arrangement if I've passed out while reading and need to get up so I can go to bed properly anyway.
If I fall asleep early, she's going to get me up at 1:30 or 2am anyway. This isn't the worst arrangement if I've passed out while reading and need to get up so I can go to bed properly anyway.
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2) Turn that damn alarm clock AROUND. You don't want to be aware of time when you're sleeping. Sure, use it to get up in the morning, but place it on the other side of your room and facing the opposite direction.
My wife has trouble sleeping. She can tell you to the minute what time she woke up during the night, because she always looks at her alarm clock. I on the other hand have my alarm clock covered so that I can't see what time it is, I don't want to know. It is dark, I am sleepy, why do I need to know what time it is? I sleep like a baby....99% of the time.
Avoid the clock at night.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
Fell asleep at 5am and got up at 8am. So better
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- Skinypupy
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
Glad I wasn't the only one with Bioshock-induced insomnia last night.Zarathud wrote:I need to stop playing Bioshock after 11 pm -- 30 min between saves leads to staying up too late and then the game gets into your head.
Finally got to sleep sometime after 2:30 this morning, up at 5:30. I can't even think straight right now and I'm headed into 3 hours of meetings. Ugh.
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Hah yeah I had Bioshock insomnia too. Don't think I've thought this much about a game ever.
As for insomnia, I'm a big proponent of what LM was saying earlier: make your sleep a routine. No TV's in the bedroom. The bedroom is for sleep. Don't work in the bedroom if you can help it (my computer is in the bedroom so I can't really help it). Make associations with sleep to enforce that it's a routine. For me, I have a Pandora station that I play when it's bedtime. It's such a routine that anytime I turn it on, my dog and cat, who both lay in my bed when I'm on the computer, jump out as soon as they hear it.
I'm a bit of a nut and I don't drink any caffeinated drinks and I would recommend that to people as well, but I understand most people can't/won't do that, heh.
As for insomnia, I'm a big proponent of what LM was saying earlier: make your sleep a routine. No TV's in the bedroom. The bedroom is for sleep. Don't work in the bedroom if you can help it (my computer is in the bedroom so I can't really help it). Make associations with sleep to enforce that it's a routine. For me, I have a Pandora station that I play when it's bedtime. It's such a routine that anytime I turn it on, my dog and cat, who both lay in my bed when I'm on the computer, jump out as soon as they hear it.
I'm a bit of a nut and I don't drink any caffeinated drinks and I would recommend that to people as well, but I understand most people can't/won't do that, heh.
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I can drink a liter of Mountain Dew and then go to bed an hour later without problems... I'm not sure the caffeine does anything to me anymore, but I sure as hell miss it if I don't get it.cheeba wrote:I'm a bit of a nut and I don't drink any caffeinated drinks and I would recommend that to people as well, but I understand most people can't/won't do that, heh.
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I used to be that way. Caffeine even helped clear my head so I could sleep easier. Now it doesn't keep me from sleeping or keep me awake but it keeps my from sleeping deeply and I wake up more and am conscious that I am awake more throughout the night when I have caffeine late. My rule is now no caffeine after noon on weekday and rarely after 17:00 on the weekend.Paingod wrote:I can drink a liter of Mountain Dew and then go to bed an hour later without problems... I'm not sure the caffeine does anything to me anymore, but I sure as hell miss it if I don't get it.
Alcohol used to keep me awake as well and no longer does that either. Metabolism. Weird.
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Caffeine won't bother me, but once in a while I will smoke a cigar during or after playing golf, and that will bother me. I don't see how hard core smokers ever sleep.Paingod wrote:I can drink a liter of Mountain Dew and then go to bed an hour later without problems... I'm not sure the caffeine does anything to me anymore, but I sure as hell miss it if I don't get it.cheeba wrote:I'm a bit of a nut and I don't drink any caffeinated drinks and I would recommend that to people as well, but I understand most people can't/won't do that, heh.
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Well it caught up to me today. I was up at 8am you know...around 2pm I stretched my back out because it was doing it's thing....and fell asleep. Woke up surprised at 8pm! Had to get up and prepare some cornbread, pinto beans, and mustard greens with pepper juice. But man i was groggy for a bit. I have to go out of town yet again around 6am. Once I get my days worked out I should be ok again.
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Yeah I could do a 2 liter of coke in a day easily and still go to sleep. My problem was that if I went 2 days without it, I would wake up with a piercing headache. Now I haven't had a sip of pop in nearly 3 years. I've never been a drinker of coffee or tea. So I've been pretty much totally clean from caffeine for a good couple of years. A few weeks ago my mom brought over those little Mio water flavor things for me (she does that kind of thing, still, lol). Didn't notice that one of them was an energy version with caffeine and when I drank it I was bouncing off the walls. Heck of a thing, getting back on the drugs, lol.Paingod wrote:I can drink a liter of Mountain Dew and then go to bed an hour later without problems... I'm not sure the caffeine does anything to me anymore, but I sure as hell miss it if I don't get it.cheeba wrote:I'm a bit of a nut and I don't drink any caffeinated drinks and I would recommend that to people as well, but I understand most people can't/won't do that, heh.
- Montag
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That is not long enough! Caffeine has a half life of 5 hours. You would still have significant amounts in your system. I have some at lunch and then I'm done for the day. I pay the price when I have something later.Daehawk wrote:No apnea..wife would tell me.
I cut out all caffeine 4-5 hours before bed. I drink only water and milk usually.
Breaking away from the TV/Computer 1.5 hours earlier makes a big difference.
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- Skinypupy
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I'm sure this would make a difference, but it would mean cutting nearly ALL gaming and/or TV out of my life. Little B goes to bed at 8, I spend 30 minutes washing dishes/cleaning the house/etc., then I spend 60-90 minutes gaming or watching Netflix.Montag wrote:Breaking away from the TV/Computer 1.5 hours earlier makes a big difference.
Not sure I'm willing to give up my main source of entertainment for the sake of getting better sleep.
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- silverjon
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Won't help with your TV, but there is this program to adjust your computer by time of day.Skinypupy wrote:I'm sure this would make a difference, but it would mean cutting nearly ALL gaming and/or TV out of my life. Little B goes to bed at 8, I spend 30 minutes washing dishes/cleaning the house/etc., then I spend 60-90 minutes gaming or watching Netflix.Montag wrote:Breaking away from the TV/Computer 1.5 hours earlier makes a big difference.
Not sure I'm willing to give up my main source of entertainment for the sake of getting better sleep.
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To be fair, adolescent power fantasy tripe is way easier to write than absurd existential horror, and every community has got to start somewhere... right?
Unless one loses a precious thing, he will never know its true value. A little light finally scratches the darkness; it lets the exhausted one face his shattered dream and realize his path cannot be walked. Can man live happily without embracing his wounded heart?
- hepcat
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Years later and this is still a problem for me. Much more so when I'm not sleeping in my place. It's now at the point where I can't sleep at all if I'm at a hotel or visiting family or friends and have to stay overnight.
I've scheduled a visit with a Cognitive Behavioral Training specialist for next week though. This needs to end. I was back in Ohio for Christmas, and was so tired on my drive back to Chicago because of lack of sleep that I had to stop at a motel halfway through the drive to sleep for a few hours. I caught myself nodding off while driving. That's just way too dangerous and scary.
I've scheduled a visit with a Cognitive Behavioral Training specialist for next week though. This needs to end. I was back in Ohio for Christmas, and was so tired on my drive back to Chicago because of lack of sleep that I had to stop at a motel halfway through the drive to sleep for a few hours. I caught myself nodding off while driving. That's just way too dangerous and scary.
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- Jaymann
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Well at least people should have finished Bioshock by now.
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- Unagi
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Daehawk wrote:So here I am..I've given up on sleeping and Im pouring caffeine down my throat to make sure I can stay awake.
edit: wow, sorry that was a looong time ago.
- JSHAW
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Dude, I'm 100% sure your wife does not have built-in diagnostics in her body that can tell how many times a night your body stops breathing.Daehawk wrote:No apnea..wife would tell me.
A sleep study will hook you up to a machine that will spill out lots of data to their computer
telling them exactly what type of apnea you have and how many times a night your body
is not breathing correctly.
There are 3 different types of sleep apnea, obstructive, central, and a combination of both.
Central is based on neurological signals that tell your body to breathe. If your brain isn't doing
that correctly your body will wake itself up and kickstart you back into breathing.
Obstructive is the type that most people are aware of, when your airway is obstructed
during sleep.
You definitely need to do some research on the different types, and NOT relying on your wife to
tell you that you are or aren't snoring. There's more to sleep apnea than snoring.
My wife has it, I have it, and even with an CPAP machine & mask she still snores.
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Re: Insomnia is visiting.
There's also upper airway resistance syndrome:
Less air, but without the obstructions that characterize most apnea.During sleep the muscles of the airway become relaxed. The relaxation of these muscles in turn reduces the diameter of the airway. Typically, the airway of a person with UARS is already restricted or reduced in size, and this natural relaxation reduces the airway further. Therefore, breathing becomes labored. It can be likened to breathing through a straw.
It's almost as if people are the problem.