MLB 2021 Post Season

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 11:04 am

All series he would say no swing. Some of them were really close. But now he wants to make a name for himself. Well congrats you did

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El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:09 pm

Check swings are the closest thing that baseball has to the NFL's "catch / football move" rules.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 12:25 pm

Right up there with taunting.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:13 pm

naednek wrote:All series he would say no swing. Some of them were really close. But now he wants to make a name for himself. Well congrats you did

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That's a bit extreme but ya terrible call. I think they should have an auto review for the last play of the game. Would at least give a shot at an ump not cocking it up like this.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:05 pm

Hey, I scored tickets to ALCS game 3 on Monday. Pretty psyched - I went to one ALDS game (with standing room tickets) vs. the Rays a few years back, but this'll be my first championship series game.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:07 pm

Oh wow that's awesome. I don't think I've ever been to a playoff game. Not that there were many chances since.1986.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:18 pm

Octavious wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 2:13 pm
naednek wrote:All series he would say no swing. Some of them were really close. But now he wants to make a name for himself. Well congrats you did

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That's a bit extreme but ya terrible call. I think they should have an auto review for the last play of the game. Would at least give a shot at an ump not cocking it up like this.

ya i know it is, it's the aburdity that made me laugh

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:31 pm

I have revised my rooting to Red Sox vs. Braves.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Oct 15, 2021 9:30 pm

Nothing like an Altuve miscue to get things off to a good start.

Hrdina · Post by **Hrdina** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:02 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 5:31 pm I have revised my rooting to Red Sox vs. Braves.

The four teams I wanted to advance to the NLCS/ALCS all lost, so I don't plan to advertise my rooting this time around.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:26 pm

Hmmm, I still like their odds but the Red Sox bullpen isn’t making it easy…

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:22 pm

Walk off by Riley! Braves win!

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 2:38 am

I love that Braves get home field advantage even though the Dodgers won 106 games to the Braves' 88.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:38 am

Thought this was really interesting.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:59 pm

Another walk off for the Braves! Of course Braves were up 3-1 on the Dodgers last year and lost the series...

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 am

I switched to football when they were down 4-2, but flipped back in time to see Jansen blow it.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:45 am

Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 am I switched to football when they were down 4-2, but flipped back in time to see Jansen blow it.

why couldn't he blew it when he played the giants. I was counting on the old Jansen

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:14 pm

The good news is I won't have to stay up until midnight to find out who wins.

$iljanus · Post by **$iljanus** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:46 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:05 pm Hey, I scored tickets to ALCS game 3 on Monday. Pretty psyched - I went to one ALDS game (with standing room tickets) vs. the Rays a few years back, but this'll be my first championship series game.

What a game to be at!

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:42 pm

This time I switched to football when it was 9-0 and saw a great finish.

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:36 am

I'm beginning to think you can't win an ALCS without starting pitching.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:40 am

$iljanus wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:46 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Oct 15, 2021 4:05 pm Hey, I scored tickets to ALCS game 3 on Monday. Pretty psyched - I went to one ALDS game (with standing room tickets) vs. the Rays a few years back, but this'll be my first championship series game.
What a game to be at!

Yup! And the crowd was engaged the whole time, even way up. Though to be fair, that's partly out of a fear about whether the Sox bullpen could hold a nine run lead (to that end, ERod going 6 innings was *huge* for the series).

Also apparently three grand slams in one series is an MLB record (and the 1999 Braves are the only other team to hit three grand slams in a postseason). The Sox offense has been their primary strength all year (especially after Schwarber joined the roster), but is the Astros staff this bad, or is this more the Sox being good hitters plus small sample size randomness?

Dramatist · Post by **Dramatist** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:13 pm

The Astros starting pitching has mostly just run out of gas. This has been a fear of mine that it was bound to happen at some point this season after the short season last year. Lance McCullers Jr. had been their best pitcher and he’s now out. Luis Garcia is 24 and never pitched 110 innings in a season before this year. He was great until he got to around 130 innings this year and he’s probably near 170 now. Greinke has worn down as the season has gone on too.

Don’t get me wrong, the Red Sox offense is great too.

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Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 6:43 pm

Nothing like a Dodger meltdown in the 4th...

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:26 pm

Why has Christian Javier not pitched for the Astros before now? He seems really good.

Also, I really don't feel good going to the bullpen with a one run lead. At least if they get through the 6th maybe they can turn it over to Garrett Whitlock.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:49 pm

Ok, so the ump blew what should've been strike three to end the 9th at 2-2, then the hitter of course singles to give the Astros a 3-2. But then Cora goes to Martin fucking Perez? Was he giving up on the game at that point?

Oh well.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:00 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:49 pm Ok, so the ump blew what should've been strike three to end the 9th at 2-2, then the hitter of course singles to give the Astros a 3-2. But then Cora goes to Martin fucking Perez? Was he giving up on the game at that point?

Oh well.

That ump has been inconsistent all game. It's really frustrating.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:10 am

noxiousdog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:00 am
El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:49 pm Ok, so the ump blew what should've been strike three to end the 9th at 2-2, then the hitter of course singles to give the Astros a 3-2. But then Cora goes to Martin fucking Perez? Was he giving up on the game at that point?

Oh well.
That ump has been inconsistent all game. It's really frustrating.

Yeah he also called J.D. Martinez out earlier on strikes on a ball that was maybe half a foot off the plate. But oh well.

But the Red Sox were still very much in the game until Cora brought in Perez. He's not the Red Sox's worst reliever, but he's in the running. I know that the bullpen doesn't exactly have a ton of great options after Whitlock, especially since Matt Barnes tragically died in the second half, but why not at least go with Ryan Brasier?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:14 am

Obviously I'm paying more attention to the bad calls against the Red Sox. But like...seems like he shouldn't work any more ALCS games? This being MLB though I'm sure nothing will happen though.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:23 am

As a side note, my new theory is that Matt Barnes wished on a monkey's paw to be the Red Sox closer before the 2021 season started.

noxiousdog · Post by **noxiousdog** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:07 am

El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:14 am Obviously I'm paying more attention to the bad calls against the Red Sox. But like...seems like he shouldn't work any more ALCS games? This being MLB though I'm sure nothing will happen though.

The egregious ones are those outside strikes. I get why people are upset about the Eovaldi curve, but that's a borderline call. It barely caught the very corner of the zone.

He's more consistent than I thought though. He didn't like high or low strikes, but he had a Maddux zone off the plate.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:14 am

noxiousdog wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 10:07 am
El Guapo wrote: ↑Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:14 am Obviously I'm paying more attention to the bad calls against the Red Sox. But like...seems like he shouldn't work any more ALCS games? This being MLB though I'm sure nothing will happen though.
The egregious ones are those outside strikes. I get why people are upset about the Eovaldi curve, but that's a borderline call. It barely caught the very corner of the zone.

He's more consistent than I thought though. He didn't like high or low strikes, but he had a Maddux zone off the plate.

Yeah the Martinez strike 3 was one of those outside strikes...pretty crazy. Seems like he needs some sort of remedial lesson on those pitches.

I'll also say that the Eovaldi curve looked like more clearly a strike on the replay than it looks on that map, though I'm sure it's more borderline than I remember.

And I don't mean to blame the result only on that call - Martin Perez, and whoever gave Cora the concussion that resulted in him thinking that bringing Perez in was a good idea, had more to do with the outcome.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 12:36 pm

naednek wrote:
Jaymann wrote: ↑Mon Oct 18, 2021 2:37 am I switched to football when they were down 4-2, but flipped back in time to see Jansen blow it.
why couldn't he blew it when he played the giants. I was counting on the old Jansen

The bad call check swing. Duh!

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Oct 20, 2021 9:23 pm

game 4 is off to a great start

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:19 am

Starting pitching is nice. I think the Astros should continue to investigate this.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:00 am

Umps tend to call the same pitches, and as long as that is consistent players can live with it. It’s when they jump around that they cause problems.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:02 am

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:19 am Starting pitching is nice. I think the Astros should continue to investigate this.

Name any playoff team that has demonstrated any starting pitching?

Hrothgar · Post by **Hrothgar** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:50 pm

Scuzz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:02 am
Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:19 am Starting pitching is nice. I think the Astros should continue to investigate this.
Name any playoff team that has demonstrated any starting pitching?

I thought that was pretty obvious.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:52 pm

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:50 pm
Scuzz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:02 am
Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:19 am Starting pitching is nice. I think the Astros should continue to investigate this.
Name any playoff team that has demonstrated any starting pitching?
I thought that was pretty obvious.

What the hell did he do between game 1 and game 5? I mean, Sale was much better too, but damn.

Also, just for everyone's reference, games 2 and 3 were First Half Red Sox, and games 4 and 5 were Second Half Red Sox.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Oct 21, 2021 5:11 pm

Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 3:50 pm
Scuzz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 1:02 am
Hrothgar wrote: ↑Thu Oct 21, 2021 12:19 am Starting pitching is nice. I think the Astros should continue to investigate this.
Name any playoff team that has demonstrated any starting pitching?
I thought that was pretty obvious.

So basically one pitcher from 4 teams. Really the only pitcher who has truly earned ace status was the Giants Webb.