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Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 am
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coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
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coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 am
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Less stuff on PS5, which is where I will be doing the majority of my next-gen gaming.
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Phil Spencer just on CNBC. All about Game Pass and next gen release. Cloud streaming service to allow gameplay cross platform, including on mobile.

Says no changes to Zenimax/Bethesda.
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MS has always hated or ruined PC gaming so I see no chance of that happening.
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coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
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Grifman wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:04 am
coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 am
Blech.
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Fallout New Vegas 2! :)
First thing I thought was Fallout/Doom games using the same tech as the new Flight Simulator except ground based and using some kind of machine learning tool(on their end) to add a post apocalyptic layer of paint to everything.
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Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:20 am
coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 am
Blech.
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Less stuff on PS5, which is where I will be doing the majority of my next-gen gaming.
And Game Pass is exactly why I won't be :) The PS equivalent is crappy.
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Lorini wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:47 am
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:20 am
coopasonic wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:02 am
Skinypupy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:00 am
Blech.
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Less stuff on PS5, which is where I will be doing the majority of my next-gen gaming.
And Game Pass is exactly why I won't be :) The PS equivalent is crappy.
Agreed, but the Xbox exclusives (and timed exclusives) pale in comparison to PS.

I can always play the next Elder Scrolls on my PC, but there ain't no way I'd wait a year to play Final Fantasy XVI on Xbox.
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Looking forward to hearing about Microsoft's new commitment to PC gaming.
Maybe next year, maybe no go
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Smoove_B wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:03 pm Looking forward to hearing about Microsoft's new commitment to PC gaming.
What is this the 5th or 6th time and they always do the opposite?
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Daehawk wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:08 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:03 pm Looking forward to hearing about Microsoft's new commitment to PC gaming.
What is this the 5th or 6th time and they always do the opposite?
Yeah, but it's a lot harder to piss away $7.5B after buying one the leading developers in existence.
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Grifman wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:34 pmYeah, but it's a lot harder to piss away $7.5B after buying one the leading developers in existence.
They were. I'm not sure about current. Regardless, if anyone can buy a development studio and drive it head-first into the ground, it's Microsoft. :D
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Grifman wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:34 pm
Daehawk wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:08 pm
Smoove_B wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 12:03 pm Looking forward to hearing about Microsoft's new commitment to PC gaming.
What is this the 5th or 6th time and they always do the opposite?
Yeah, but it's a lot harder to piss away $7.5B after buying one the leading developers in existence.
Speaking of which when was the last time RARE put out a good game?
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Scraper wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 2:22 pm Speaking of which when was the last time RARE put out a good game?
Battletoads?

On a more serious note, they did Sea of Thieves.
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Here's where they announce the next Elder Scrolls is an XBox exclusive and pisses off their fanbase.

But good news is that maybe they'll now make a Dragon Flying Simulator mode as part of Flight Simulator ;)
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Sony losing Doom, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout would be pretty huge. Interesting news. I would guess this makes my hope for a Dishonored 3 even less likely.
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Yeah I don't care about the Japanese exclusive PS games so it's all good for me. Yeah Sony would be very angry if the Bethesda library required you to run some version of a Microsoft OS.
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Maybe Microsoft is going to release a game launcher / service :) *shudder*
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Given Bethesda's practices lately (especially in relation to Fallout 76), I'm not sorry to see someone new at the helm.
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Daehawk wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:55 pm Maybe Microsoft is going to release a game launcher / service :) *shudder*
Wouldn't be surprised if they fold the Bethesda launcher into Games Pass.
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I see people online saying stuff about its worrisome for ES6 because MS makes stuff unmoddable. And mods are what make ES worth having.
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Rumpy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:05 pm Here's where they announce the next Elder Scrolls is an XBox exclusive and pisses off their fanbase.

But good news is that maybe they'll now make a Dragon Flying Simulator mode as part of Flight Simulator ;)
They have to figure out how to make Flight Simulator work without patches completely breaking it as a first step.
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JCC wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:15 pm Sony losing Doom, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout would be pretty huge. Interesting news. I would guess this makes my hope for a Dishonored 3 even less likely.
If I was running things for MS I'd release the Doom games for the new Playstation but they would all have Playstation 1 graphics.
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gameoverman wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:16 pm If I was running things for MS I'd release the Doom games for the new Playstation but they would all have Playstation 1 graphics.
I LOLed. Well done.
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gameoverman wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 8:16 pm
JCC wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:15 pm Sony losing Doom, Elder Scrolls, and Fallout would be pretty huge. Interesting news. I would guess this makes my hope for a Dishonored 3 even less likely.
If I was running things for MS I'd release the Doom games for the new Playstation but they would all have Playstation 1 graphics.
They'd just be DOOMed!
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Come to think of it, given that MS recently bought Obsidian and now Bethesda, maybe they're aiming to have some big RPGs on the console?
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Daehawk wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:00 pm I see people online saying stuff about its worrisome for ES6 because MS makes stuff unmoddable. And mods are what make ES worth having.
They certainly don’t get rid of mods. Java Minecraft still has thousands of mods available. I wouldn’t worry about that.
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Rumpy wrote: Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:23 pm Come to think of it, given that MS recently bought Obsidian and now Bethesda, maybe they're aiming to have some big RPGs on the console?
They also acquired inXile a couple of years ago.
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People keep saying that exclusives are better on Playstation - perhaps this is a way to counteract that.
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Yeah, in particular, the Playstation certainly has a lot of RPGs, and I don't know how many the XBox has beyond the cross-platforms.
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gbasden wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:53 am People keep saying that exclusives are better on Playstation - perhaps this is a way to counteract that.
Rumpy wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 1:43 am Yeah, in particular, the Playstation certainly has a lot of RPGs, and I don't know how many the XBox has beyond the cross-platforms.
This is definitely part of it. Japan just pumps out a lot of RPGs in general but the difference is that it more of an ecosystem there (dominated by Square). Sony owns only a few development studios but they have enough soft influence and market share to lock in exclusives. Whereas Microsoft seems to be struggling on exclusives. I think the wake up call was when the Switch became the number 2 platform at the end of last year. That could have prompted a strategic re-think that led to the spending spree. It's a realignment and frankly I think it means they think they needed to change the marketplace to get market share back.
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As primarily a Playstation player, this hurts. I don't really care much about any new Fallouts as I think Bethesda has sort of worn that formula into the ground, but presumably losing the next Elder Scrolls and future Obsidian games is rough. Assuming exclusivity, it might be enough to make me get an Xbox whenever those games come out. I guess that's exactly what Microsoft was hoping for!
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Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:56 am As primarily a Playstation player, this hurts. I don't really care much about any new Fallouts as I think Bethesda has sort of worn that formula into the ground, but presumably losing the next Elder Scrolls and future Obsidian games is rough. Assuming exclusivity, it might be enough to make me get an Xbox whenever those games come out. I guess that's exactly what Microsoft was hoping for!
I'm definitely not going to buy a console for a couple of studios. I'll just play those games on the PC. We'll see if this strategy pays off but I'm skeptical for now. PS has a dominant position and I don't expect that to slip over a couple of exclusives.
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By buying this that means MS will be publishing 2 Sony PS5 exclusives :)
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gbasden wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:53 am People keep saying that exclusives are better on Playstation - perhaps this is a way to counteract that.
I'm 100% sure it is. When you look at the exclusives list, there really is no comparison, imo. Sony has Final Fantasy, God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Ghost of Tsushima, Spiderman, Last of Us, Uncharted, Bloodborne, Journey, Gran Turismo, etc. Microsoft has Gears of War and...um...

If MS can make Elder Scrolls 6 and new Obsidian RPG's exclusives (or even timed exclusives) there's a chance they can peel off some folks and convince them to buy an Xbox. If a new Elder Scrolls game was Xbox only and I didn't have PC as an option, I'd certainly have to consider it.
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malchior wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 9:03 am
Ralph-Wiggum wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2020 8:56 am As primarily a Playstation player, this hurts. I don't really care much about any new Fallouts as I think Bethesda has sort of worn that formula into the ground, but presumably losing the next Elder Scrolls and future Obsidian games is rough. Assuming exclusivity, it might be enough to make me get an Xbox whenever those games come out. I guess that's exactly what Microsoft was hoping for!
I'm definitely not going to buy a console for a couple of studios. I'll just play those games on the PC.
I have pretty much moved away from PC gaming over the last 10 years and I don't have nor plan to have a PC that will be able to run the newest games. So, for me, the exclusive games on the console are my main consideration in which console(s?) I buy. Since I'm not big on shooters, I've never really been tempted to get an XBox. This announcement and the potential exclusivity of Bethesda and Obsidian games has the chance to change that.
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