Video Games Randomness - Prioritize specific game threads!

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:44 am

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:26 amYour post made me fire up Grim Dawn again. It's a game that I enjoyed, but never actually got around to finishing when it came out.

I've probably got at least a hundred hours in it and never finished. I keep making it to one point where the map stops being linear and you have to kind of spiral in to a mystic tomb - and it's right about there that I think "I want to try a different build"

I've got a dozen or more characters all at or near that point. It's silly. I don't know why I bounce off it right there, but I do. Every time. My highest level character is a Level 55 Cabalist that can easily run the Cauldron up to wave 75 without flinching, but has never wandered beyond that point.

Of the ARPG's I've played, Grim Dawn is probably my favorite.

Diablo was a lot of fun for its time and set a high bar.
Diablo II was more of the same and even better.
Diablo III went off the rails with the auction house and I never went back.
Titan Quest is/was just awesome, but is a very "clean" world and game. It's a fun romp through mythology.
Path of Exile is/was fun, but the skill tree requires a PhD to avoid gimping yourself.
Grim Dawn is a great mix of gritty, dirty world and hectic combat with lots of skill options.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:50 am

I'm trying this dual-wield melee acid poison build. Goal is to at least get through the base game this time around.

Never realized until watching a couple videos last night that Grim Dawn is made on the Titan Quest engine. They never looked particularly similar to me, but I guess I can see it now.

While the ideal of modding an ARPG seems weird to me, I understand that the modding community for GD is very active. Are there any "must-have" QOL mods? Not particularly interested in the full conversions that turn it into Diablo or Titan Quest.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 10:59 am

The only mod I used in TQ was the Vault, or Item Assistant in Grim Dawn, which I don't have installed yet. I only just ran out of expanded stash space. Item storage for those of us who have accumulated so many Epic and Rare items that they can't fit into the game's default inventory space. I wish developers would learn that in games like this people tend to be hoarders. I'd be totally fine with a level-centric list of every item I've stored along with a text search so I can find "pet" or "poison" or "attack speed" items quickly.

Before I went Hardcore I had started a dual-wielding Nightblade w/ Necro, but I didn't have a specific goal in mind except that I didn't have a single character that had Nightblade in it at all. "Reaper" just sounded like a cool class name. I have to admit that just the Nightblade side of the tree with modest investment in dual blade and melee skills was a blast to play with.

That's an interesting build, too... and the guide shines a light on maybe how I died so easily in my Hardcore run with my Necro/Occultist. I was still focusing on +Pet bonuses like I was playing solo non-HC. I should have been hunting for and stuffing myself full of Resistances to everything. I wasn't. When something popped up that didn't just do Elemental damage, it liquefied me before I could get more than three steps away. I falsely assumed I wouldn't need Bleed, Chaos, or Aether resist until later on.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:17 am

I highly doubt I'll ever play anything past Normal difficulty, as trying to grind through uber-difficult endgame content in these sort of games doesn't appeal to me much.

I do jump into the occasional Diablo 3 Season on Switch, but generally burn out after the first three reward tiers.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 am

I cant recall what I played. Been a while. I got about 5 maps up or so.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:09 am

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Feb 09, 2021 11:40 amI cant recall what I played. Been a while. I got about 5 maps up or so.

Diablo II or III? Titan Quest and Grim Dawn don't really have "maps" you move between. They have one, long continuous map with lots of caves and ruins to explore.

I re-rolled my Hardcore character and learned from my lesson before. I've prioritized resistances now, and am back in the Warden's laboratory (just beyond the point where I died before). My pets are geared for far less +DMG but my character hasn't dropped below 60% health once. The other side of the tale is that I'm using the Shepherd's Crook devotion consistently, which bumps pet damage by 70% or more every 5 seconds for 4 seconds as long as I keep attacking from the back ranks. My character doesn't even have a built-in spell attack and I have to rely on Ice Bolt from an item to get it.

I tried going non-Veteran but the utter lack of Champion creatures meant an utter lack of good gear. I re-Veteran'd and have been reaping the rewards with only minimal added risk. I keep my pets out in front of me as I explore and when I get to a shrine I cluster my pets around it, buff them, touch it, and run like hell. I only stop to look back once I'm clear of the mess and nothing's chasing me. With around +35% movement, it's easy to run.

I've even got two item-granted pets to lean on. One summons a guardian 20% of the time when I get hit, which is okay, but I don't see it much as I don't get hit much. Sometimes it spawns when I walk through an AoE. The other has a 1 minute refresh and summons a Chaos combatant with more than twice the health of my strongest pet, but he only lasts 20 seconds.

Something I'm enjoying about Hardcore that I didn't think I would so much is the fact that each step forward is an unknown. I don't have gear to back me up from old characters and I don't have absolute knowledge that what I'm about to face is something I can easily handle. I am storing the best of the best of the items I'm finding, so subsequent trips may be easier - but I'm enjoying the feeling of being "first" right now.

I haven't stopped to farm EXP anywhere, either - and I think that's a thing some hardcore folks do so they're "above" whatever challenges are coming up. I may slow down and do that a little if I get to a point were I'm losing too many pets in each big furball.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 11:09 am

Diablo II or III? Titan Quest and Grim Dawn don't really have "maps" you move between. They have one, long continuous map with lots of caves and ruins to explore.

No it was GD. Guess Im just remembering the map wrong. I was way north and at a town..a dead town.....Id uncovered about 5 or so waypoints back to the fort town you are based in. When Im thinking maps I was probably thinking areas.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:58 pm

Today I got in a game manual I ordered on ebay. The game was Axis & Allies, the 2004 version that was built on top of the Kohan II: Kings of War engine. For some reason, the game has always been expensive online despite being just 'OK', and I was never willing to drop new-game prices for a 15-year old game just for the manual. I got lucky and found a place that was selling just the manual. Why? It was the only manual (and the only print item) that I wrote and didn't have a copy of. The developers - at least those we were in direct contact with - were not good to work with, and it led to some unpleasantness in the project (and an insane rush to write fully half of the manual the night before it was due, despite it being a six-week project.) We weren't happy with them, they weren't happy with us, and they never bothered to send us copies once they went on sale. The funny thing is that we had zero issues dealing with the same developer on the Kohan II manual.

The developer released a few more mediocre games (FEAR expansions and some Section 8 games) before closing after Aliens: Colonial Marines.

So, now the collection is complete.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:27 pm

Getting really annoyed with Steam's discovery Queue mostly showing me tons of non-english supported games and lots of Hentai. Really wish they'd do a better job of weeding things out. I literally had a game appear in my Queue called Fuck or Die. What the hell, Steam??

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:29 pm

https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:32 pm

So what you're saying is...

Rumpy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:27 pmReally wish I'd do a better job of weeding things out.

When Steam started basically sponsoring torture & porn, I engaged the filters and have been largely okay. I sometimes have to "blacklist" a title that slips through so my kids don't see it pop up on my recommendations.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 4:41 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 2:29 pm https://store.steampowered.com/account/preferences

Oh, I know about the account preferences, and I have adult games disabled. I don't mind so much nudity and sexual content in context with other things, so I've kept that one checked, and logically I thought I'd be OK. But they seem to be able to get by even that. But no more.

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:13 pm

The filters are weird though. I opted out of “adult only sexual content” (so the stupid hentai games would stop showing up), but that also blocks games like Assassin's Creed and Resident Evil. T

I haven’t really found a sweet spot to keep out the overtly sexual games without it filtering out others that are head-scratchers.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:45 pm

there should also be a 'juvenile sexual content' filter (as opposed to 'adult'). or just 'horndog sexual content'

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:53 pm

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:45 pm there should also be a 'juvenile sexual content' filter (as opposed to 'adult'). or just 'horndog sexual content'

Fardaza · Post by **Fardaza** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:24 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 1:58 pm Today I got in a game manual I ordered on ebay. The game was Axis & Allies, the 2004 version that was built on top of the Kohan II: Kings of War engine. For some reason, the game has always been expensive online despite being just 'OK', and I was never willing to drop new-game prices for a 15-year old game just for the manual. I got lucky and found a place that was selling just the manual. Why? It was the only manual (and the only print item) that I wrote and didn't have a copy of. The developers - at least those we were in direct contact with - were not good to work with, and it led to some unpleasantness in the project (and an insane rush to write fully half of the manual the night before it was due, despite it being a six-week project.) We weren't happy with them, they weren't happy with us, and they never bothered to send us copies once they went on sale. The funny thing is that we had zero issues dealing with the same developer on the Kohan II manual.

The developer released a few more mediocre games (FEAR expansions and some Section 8 games) before closing after Aliens: Colonial Marines.

So, now the collection is complete.

I always thought I'd do a good job of writing and editing manuals for games. (I know I could do better than some of them I have.)
However, after reading your posts for about 3 years now, I realize that my writing is nowhere near the caliber of yours. Some people at church tell me I should start a choir. I tell them, "I could do it, but I'd do it badly." I suspect my answer for game manual writing would be similar.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 10, 2021 9:36 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:13 pm The filters are weird though. I opted out of “adult only sexual content” (so the stupid hentai games would stop showing up), but that also blocks games like Assassin's Creed and Resident Evil. T

I haven’t really found a sweet spot to keep out the overtly sexual games without it filtering out others that are head-scratchers.

Yeah, exactly. I wish it were more granular, and it's the main reason why I hadn't opted out. It used to be fine about a year or two ago, but then I started getting more and more of these recommendations.

Even with the new adjustments I just made, I still got recommended some content I didn't want or need to see. But this time, rather than going to the page directly, there was a notice saying it was content "I didn't want to see", so it's still being served up and using space that could be used for better recommendations. It's definitely not perfect.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:39 am

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:45 pmthere should also be a ... 'horndog sexual content' (filter).

I'd agree with that one. I don't know what games I'm filtering out by removing explicit sexual materials, but the ones I'm trying to filter are the games where the objectives and objectifications are all sexual. I'm not trying to filter out games aimed at adults. Just the ones aimed at people who intend to play with one hand.

In lighter thoughts, my Hardcore roll in Grim Dawn is still going strong. I've been dropped to 60% health twice now. I get that bosses are supposed to be harder than normal critters, but the absolute focus on chasing me despite me doing no damage is absurd. When I beat Crowley, he largely ignored my pets except to smash them with AoE attacks and spent the majority of the fight following me while my pets followed him.

I've re-oriented my build (being Hardcore and non-cheese with backup saves) I've opted to follow a tested build over exploring one from scratch and hoping it works. It's a hard focus on Skeletons and Blood of Dreeg - Physical, Acid, Chaos, & Fire damage - with a single Curse to debuff enemies. Simple build, and so far very effective at Level 33. With Blood of Dreeg also adding Acid damage to attacks, I opted to go with dual Acid-dmg buffs on my weapons so pets add 150% of that damage.

Build Summary:

Spoiler:

I am, also, almost right back at that point that I always seem to bounce off of in Grim Dawn, where the "forward momentum" in the map fails and you have to move from cave to cave in the center of two close proximity areas. I think it's the non-obvious waypoint progression that annoys me and I keep going back to the "furthest" gate to try and figure out where to go, but the furthest one isn't the actual furthest point in the game. Once you're there, if you don't remember exactly which way to go, it's useless because the map is already cleared, but your path takes you through a cave you can't see unless you walk around looking for it.

Titan Quest did this better. Regardless of where you were on the map, the gates were always shown in perfect linear order and progress was always "down the road" and never "back a bit, to the left, and through that tunnel you can't see yet"

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 9:27 am

hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:45 pm there should also be a 'juvenile sexual content' filter (as opposed to 'adult'). or just 'horndog sexual content'

Or separate games with incidental adult content vs. games that was INTENTIONALLY sexual.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:56 am

How about we simplify and just get Valve to add a 'porn' tag to distinguish Fuck or Die from Witcher 3.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:13 pm

That'd absolutely do the trick, but I don't think Steam wants to admit they're hosting anything other than "games" ... It'd be a bad look to start directly competing with PornHub while also selling games for kids.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 pm

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:56 am How about we simplify and just get Valve to add a 'porn' tag to distinguish Fuck or Die from Witcher 3.

Yeah, now we're talking. And Witcher 3 is a good example why I've held off on opting out of 'nudity and sexual content'. If we go back to the first game, it had those collectible cards, and then both Witcher 2 and 3 feature scenes with sex and nudity, but it doesn't automatically make them adult games , but rather games with mature content. Based on that, I didn't want to deprive myself of any games that could be along the same lines. But Valve's distinction is a bit too black and white, and that's what I take issue with, as it's only gotten worse ever since they decided they were going to be more lenient and allow more sex games. Confusing the issue are the categories to opt out of. By opting in to 'Nudity and Sexual Content' another subcategory appears called 'Adult Only Sexual Content' I've always opted out of that one because it feels very clear, yet I still got that kind of content. Then there's General Mature Content as the top category, which to me is very similar to 'Nudity and Sexual Content', and so I guess I don't know what to expect when I opt-in or out of those.

So, it's clear to me there's infrastructure there to filter those things out, but it's just not doing a very good job of it, and I'd be surprised if developers weren't using tricks to try to get around these filters.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:27 pm

As an aside, I don't think Steam takes into account language preferences, at least in terms of the discovery queue. It's as if it ignores it entirely. I have English selected as Primary language, and no other languages selected as secondary. Yet, I constantly get recommendations for games that are not in English and don't support the English language at all.

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 am

Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 pm So, it's clear to me there's infrastructure there to filter those things out, but it's just not doing a very good job of it, and I'd be surprised if developers weren't using tricks to try to get around these filters.

Amazon banishes 'porn' books (adult novels) into "porn hell" and they don't show up on regular searches. Apparently if the author tries to put the book into wrong category intentionally to escape porn hell, the author may be blacklisted.

Clearly, Steam doesn't want to be labeled "censorship" like Amazon and prefer not to deal with such problems.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:08 am

I did a thing last night that I'm not proud of. I was getting sleepy, but still going strong in Grim Dawn. I smartly walked away from the "Lord Executioner" behind the Skeleton Key locked door after reading that he loves Freezing you in place, but moments later I strode out onto the Aetherfire ground hazard like my resistances would handle it. Turns out they don't. It chews your HP at a steady clip, percentage after percentage. It's indifferent to whether or not you're HC or Normal. I remembered being there once in non-HC and knew there was a safe spot I could get to. I didn't find it. Once I realized what I had done, I mashed every healing option I had and conjured a portal, but died before I could select a destination.

Of all the ignoble deaths to befall a HC character. "Player is a dumbass" wasn't one I was willing to accept. If I had died to a boss, or a trio of Champions, or just about anything except simply not noticing the corridor on the right that would have saved me, I could have accepted it.

I had to DL the GD Inventory tool, which includes the ability to reset a character's death count from "1" to "0" ... So "Wade Wilson" was revived. I don't do it gladly, and I know it cheapens my HC run. I just couldn't take wiping out an awesome character because I missed a turn on the minimap while watching my health in horror.

I am also, for the first time in a long time, in completely uncharted territory. I've never gone this far. I had characters at higher levels, but running HUGE circles in the last map sections must have always deterred me. Nothing looks familiar, and I'm on to Homestead.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:32 pm

Kasey Chang wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 am
Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:15 pm So, it's clear to me there's infrastructure there to filter those things out, but it's just not doing a very good job of it, and I'd be surprised if developers weren't using tricks to try to get around these filters.
Amazon banishes 'porn' books (adult novels) into "porn hell" and they don't show up on regular searches. Apparently if the author tries to put the book into wrong category intentionally to escape porn hell, the author may be blacklisted.

Clearly, Steam doesn't want to be labeled "censorship" like Amazon and prefer not to deal with such problems.

It wouldn't be so bad if the categories worked the way they intended.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 10:12 pm

Every time I finish a game it takes me days to think of another to install.

Jolor · Post by **Jolor** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:51 pm

Grim Dawn

Also firing this up again. I had finished before and then took numerous builds out to (rarely) more than the mid-20s. Not sure if this time will be different but - what a great game!

Jolor · Post by **Jolor** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:51 pm

double-post

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Fri Feb 12, 2021 11:59 pm

Maybe I should reinstall and start over. When I played the first time I had no idea how to build a character. Think I was all melee. Trouble is I still dont

Jaddison · Post by **Jaddison** » Sat Feb 13, 2021 11:25 am

My GD experience changed when i started concentrating on builds that did not ignore survival and at least some focus on resistances.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:15 am

Grim Dawn absolutely requires you to be concerned with Resistances, and there's 10 of them to accumulate. The higher your resistances are, the greater your staying power in a fight tends to be.

In Normal (non-Hardcore) resistances are a moderate priority and you can get away with stacking damage and attack for some time, but it eventually catches up to you and things start knocking you over quickly. In Hardcore, resistance is life. My HC character at level 42 has 80% resist in 5 categories (Fire/Cold/Lightning/Acid/Vitality), 45% resist in two (Pierce/Bleed), 25% in two more(Aether/Chaos), and only one 0% (Stun).

I decided to circle back to the Lord Executioner behind the Skeleton Key door and found him to be far easier than I anticipated. He was 100% on focused on me and ignored my minions, but as a pet master I had 12 of them slapping him anytime he appeared. He froze me repeatedly (not a freeze-lock), but as I was always running away, he never managed to hit me twice in a row. His 325,000HP were impressive, but didn't last forever.

My greatest danger in the game continues to be getting sleepy at the keyboard.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:59 am

Word. ESC key to the eyeball is a horrible way to go out.

Kasey Chang · Post by **Kasey Chang** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 3:41 pm

So far I am not sure what to make of Plane Mechanic Simulator, which casts you as a plane mechanic working for the RAF in WW2. You get to take apart, rebuild, patch, arm, and various interesting things with WW2 aircraft, from the Tiger Moth bi-plane trainer all the way up to a Lancaster Bomber. However, the game doesn't come with any explanations on where which things are.

Q: Where's the gun camera on a Spitfire? A: Left wingroot

Q: How do you re-arm a Spitfire? A: Open bottom ammo box doors, and adjacent access panel to guns, so you can flip the level to remove the ammo boxes. There are EIGHT of them (one per gun). Reload with fresh ones. Close the bottom panels. Go to the top of wing and open top panels for each gun. Open breech for each gun and feed the ammo belt properly. Close breech, close access panels from top. Clean all barrels with cleaning rod, and replace all gun seal tapes.

Some of the challenges seem to be extra hard though, esp. if you chose unwisely on some items. There was a scenario where you need to rebuild just about every last part in the Tiger Moth in "20 minutes" realtime. The problem is if you don't have some of the skills that allow you to remove nuts and bolts faster, it will take you about 6 minutes just to take apart the engine, and that's NOT EVEN taking apart the cylinder assembly so you can find problems inside (valves, head gaskets, etc.) Let's just say some parts of the engine have 20-40 nuts and bolts to disassemble, and Tiger Moth is only has a 4 cylinder engine! Spitfire with the Merlin engine are V12s, and thus a LOT MORE nuts and bolts.

There sure are a lot of "tasks", and the difficulty do ramp up properly. Start with just refueling the craft, and maybe add coolant, or add oil, those are simple enough. But taking engine apart and even looking for bad piston rings may be a bit on the tedious side when you have to fight the strange camera controls. Yet the rest of the plane seems to lack details altogether.

Not sure if I will finish this, i.e. every plane and every mission. I suspect I'll run out of skills to grab long before I run out of planes and missions.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:45 pm

DOOM II cardboard. Took him nearly a year to create.

Paingod · Post by **Paingod** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:21 pm

Paingod wrote: ↑Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:15 amMy greatest danger in the game continues to be getting sleepy at the keyboard.

Correction: Curiosity has won out over sleepy. Wade Wilson (lvl 46 Cabalist) met his maker tonight behind the second Skeleton Key locked door near Homestead. The first one was easy as pie. I figured "How hard can the second one be?" The whole place is landmines of ground hazards, and everything was 5 levels over me. I got Wade trapped in an Arena filled with Aether steam vents and a boss that chewed through pets like I was pushing them out of a Pez dispenser. One or the other I could handle, but a boss chasing me around over death vents after he ate my pets was more than I could recover from.

A smarter person might have taken their non-HC Level 55 Cabalist up into that area to see what it was about first. I am clearly not that person.

My fascination with Hardcore may be at an end, and I may be interested in doing that Nightblade/Oathkeeper (Dervish) with Acid stacks and DoT's.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:47 pm

Clearly you are not the real Wade Wilson. He would get up, brush himself off, and use his tiny hand for something.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:17 pm

Guys, whats a good Robin Hood game? Back in 1993 a entire year before I had a PC I won a giveaway in EB one Saturday for a demo disk of Conquest of the Long Bow from Sierra. It had a neat little cardboard backing with graphics and all. But when I got my PC in 94 I couldn't find that anywhere. I never ever did . Ive always loved Robin Hood stuff and I know theres a bunch of games out there just not what and what is actually good. In my mind I still have the Sierra game as best. IS that true? Should I just get it and play it?

Man thinking of this takes me back to a medieval game on NES I used to rent called Defender of the Crown....and then one on Genesis called Centurion Defender of Rome.

Anonymous Bosch · Post by **Anonymous Bosch** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:38 pm

Daehawk wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 12:17 pm Guys, whats a good Robin Hood game? Back in 1993 a entire year before I had a PC I won a giveaway in EB one Saturday for a demo disk of Conquest of the Long Bow from Sierra. It had a neat little cardboard backing with graphics and all. But when I got my PC in 94 I couldn't find that anywhere. I never ever did . Ive always loved Robin Hood stuff and I know theres a bunch of games out there just not what and what is actually good. In my mind I still have the Sierra game as best. IS that true? Should I just get it and play it?

Man thinking of this takes me back to a medieval game on NES I used to rend called Defender of the Crown....and then one on Genesis called Centurion Defender of Rome.

If you ever enjoyed playing the stealth-oriented Commandos tactical strategy games back in the day, Robin Hood: The Legend of Sherwood was basically similar but more action-based with easier difficulty and a Robin Hood theme. It was definitely among the best Robin Hood-themed games I can recall playing, with an entertaining story, impressive mission design, and an enjoyable combat system. Having said that, it was originally released back in 2002, so if you cannot handle playing older titles, you may not want to bother.

Also, if you have Amazon Prime, you owe it to yourself to watch the British Robin of Sherwood TV series, which remains one of my favourite grittier adaptations. Keep in mind though, it was made on fairly minimal budgets in the UK back in the 1980s. But even so, costumes and scenery were top notch and the stories just worked better with an authentic British cast IMO. Also, if memory serves, Sean Connery's son takes on the titular role of Robin Hood in the third (and sadly final) season.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Feb 15, 2021 1:07 pm

I dont have Prime. Haven't since just before my wife passed. We used to get it for her to watch movies on and I got some free Twitch games or something. But I can get it again for $6 a month if I really had to.

I usually just like the old 1938 Errol Flynn movie for Robin Hood. But I admit a huge love for Costner's Prince of Thieves...sue me